Hi.
Well I recently bought a cross between a beagle and a jack russell pup. Hes 10weeks old and I feel like I am going around in circles with him. Basically he has his kennel outside and he seems to be fine in that during the day. He has loads of toys in the garden and I leave him water and a little dry food each day. We are gone for roughly 9hours while we are at work. But my partner gets home before me so pup is fed then and they play in the garden, sometimes hes really good and wee wees and poo`s outside....but I didnt opt for the crate version of potty training as his cry was so loud the hole street could hear him. So for the first few nights he slept in his bed in our room to get used to us....and then after his trip to the vet and being told he was fine. We brought him down to the kitchen in a new bigger soft furry bed and he sleeps down there. I have newspaper down and put pepper or vinegar on certain parts of the room that hes not to go toilet in. But I am finding that he is doing a huge amount of poos everynight.

I was taking him out to go toilet when he was upstairs with us. But he seems to of settled down to sleep right away when I put him in and its around say 1am and again about 3am...he starts barking....Should I still take him out...even though I have sented the paper in kitchen with the spray for him to go wee wee there.....
I am thinking maybe I have taken on to much. But hes so adorable and I want to do the right thing. All the books say crate training. But a crate would be way to big in our kitchen.....and his kennel is better suited for during the day not at night....as we new to area so dont know our neighbours yet.

When he wakes up at 12 and again at 3am...should I just put on his lead and walk him around the garden.....and for how long should this go onto....to what age......and I am wondering should I leave him any food at night time and water...or should I give him a last drink at a certain time and then take bowls away...till morning...

please help and give urgent adivse to me. Many thank

greyknee

Hello Greyknee

Thats an awful long time for a puppy to be alone - and being outside in the day and alone for that long is going to make housetraining very difficult. I also can't see how you can crate train - because I wouldn't recommend locking a dog up for that length of time at all.

Have you taken any time off work to get him settled in at all?

I'm afraid I think it will probably get worse before it gets better - is there anyone who could puppy sit for you in the day or have the pup for the afternoon?

C :)

No...but actually hes totally fine during the day....he seems to play happy and goes into the kennel and sleeps from 9am to around 11am.
He has the hole run of the garden and gets a long walk twice in the evening. My partner is home at 5pm and takes him for a walk then and I take him again around 8pm or 9pm...then we settle down for a while together in the living room and cuddle up and then about 10pm we head off to bed.

He seems happy and fine.....but I think it might be that the food I am feeding him could be to rich.

>>gets a long walk twice in the evening>>

A puppy so young shouldnt really be gettin long walks yet. Only a 5-10 minute walk. :-) Does he have the full run of the garden all day when you are out?? If he does it is quite dangerous, puppys can and will try and eat all sorts of weird things. Mine loved, and still tries, to eat and swallow stones. Be careful. ;-)

>>No...but actually hes totally fine during the day....he seems to play happy and goes into the kennel and sleeps from 9am to around 11am>>

How do you know what he does during the day?? Do you have someone go and check on him?? I think you really DO need to have someone that can be with him during the day to feed him and play etc. It is not fair for him to be alone for so long!! :-(

>Hes 10weeks old and I feel like I am going around in circles with him. Basically he has his kennel outside and he >seems to be fine in that during the day. He has loads of toys in the garden and I leave him water and a little dry >food each day. We are gone for roughly 9hours while we are at work.

I'm afraid 9 horus is *MUCH* too long for a 10 weeks old pup to be alone. In fact it would be too long for an adult dog! Does he not get fed at all during that time? At that age a puppy needs 4 meals a day, so would certainly need 2 during the time you are away.  It's not a good idea to just leave him with food, as he may well eat it all in one go and he will then have a too large amount all at once which certainly can cause problems.

>We brought him down to the kitchen in a new bigger soft furry bed and he sleeps down there. I have newspaper >down and put pepper or vinegar on certain parts of the room that hes not to go toilet in. But I am finding that he >is doing a huge amount of poos everynight.

If he isn't fed during the day (for those 9 hours) and has to have all his food requirements crammed into a short space of time, my guess is that he is fed too much in one go, and too late in the day, and so he will mess during the night.  Also the food you feed can make a difference to the amount of poo.  He does need to be fed during the evening, but not too late, so as to give him a chance to empty well before it is time to settle down for the night.

>I was taking him out to go toilet when he was upstairs with us. But he seems to of settled down to sleep right >away when I put him in and its around say 1am and again about 3am...he starts barking....Should I still take >him out...even though I have sented the paper in kitchen with the spray for him to go wee wee there.....

These things to teach a pup to go in one particular area seldom works. He's a tiny baby and he isn't physically able to hold himself for long. You have to either accept puddles in the night for the time being, or take him out during the night.  It should not need to be every 2 hours though. Gradually increase the amount of time by adding 15 minutes to it each night, so that you end up only taking him out once a night.  If you go to him as soon as he starts barking he will learn that barking WORKS. It brings you to him.

>When he wakes up at 12 and again at 3am...should I just put on his lead and walk him around the >garden.....and for how long should this go onto....to what age......

Why would you need a lead on him? When you take him out just put him on the ground and stand still, waiting for him to go. It can take time with little puppies, but once he does, praise him, and then take him back indoors again. By the age of 4 months he should definitely be able to be dry overnight, sometimes sooner, but it's best not to expect too much too soon as puppies vary from individual to individual.

>and I am wondering should I leave him any food at night time and water...or should I give him a last drink at a >certain time and then take bowls away...till morning...

No, no food at night -see what I said earlier. You do need to leave him with water though, at all times. Are you sure a crate won't fit in your kitchen? For a puppy the size of yours they don't need to be very big as it is just to sleep in. You won't be able to use it during the days though as you aren't there to let him out. It's one thing to sleep during the night, quite another to be locked in all day.

Good luck.

Wow, great post Marianne :D

Thanks! :)

I have the puppy on Pedigree puppy food and the vet said that this is the best food for him and that he should really only have two meals a day as hes not going to get much bigger....hense him little tummy wont get much bigger and that I should just leave him a little dry food during the day.

The vet said that leaving him alone during the day would be ok as long as he has plenty of toys to play with. He dosent seem to be barking at all during the day. I have been at home several times and watched out the window to see how he was.....and he is happy playing or sleeping.

There are other dogs on the street and I think he will be a great social dog once out and seeing all the others in the evening....

I am fine with during the day the puppy seems happy...I make up little toy things for him to play...or leave little treats in toilet rolls so he is amused playing.
When I bought him the seller said that he breeds beagle dogs and they make great family pets and that he is a house dog and best suited inside.

my main worry I think is the night time.
But from tonight I am going to start getting back up with him during the night and take him out to toilet...and no more late night snacks...hes a little divel for going over to BF for getting treats and they are whats making him do more poos......and I think thats why hes not settling for very long

He loves his new bed...its the fury beds and he has lots of teddies and three blankets and he gets all snug in his bed.
I use the spray on the sheets of newspaper for any accidents.....but from tonight I am defo going to still get up with him twice a night.
I think that I do over worry and was frightened as his poos were a little runny that there was something mega wrong with him....but I think its that his diet is to rich for him.

Thanks for the advise...but he seems so settled in his bed I hate to start moving him around again. I am fine if he wee wees on lino in kitchen as only takes seconds to clean. I am just upset over the amount of woopies but again I am thinking its the rich intake of diet.......

Have been reading up and I know what I need to change.

If his breeder told you he is best suited inside and you come home at times, enough to know he only sleeps until 11am what on earth is he doing outside for 9 hours not getting regular meals   Two long walks in the evening are not ideal either regular play times and interaction throughout the day would be much more suitable.
I'm glad Goldmali has typed a long and helpfull reply as I find myself unable to offer anything that would fit within the TOS, this post frankly makes me want to weep :(  If this is the life destined for this little chap I can honestly say I think he would be better returned to his breeder who hopefully would make a better job of placement next time.
I'm very sorry I'm not usually this rude to guests but I think you need a wake up call as to how you are treating this very young puppy.

How I second that!

I wouldn't expect a puppy to be down to two meals until at least 6 months and possibly later.  Does the vet realise how old the puppy is?
I agree with the others, 9 hours is waaaaaay to long for a pup to be alone, and to expect it then to become housetrained is expecting miracles :(

By leaving him out you are also putting him at risk from these 'other dogs' as well as theives :( He isn't barking yet because he's too small, and he doesn't want to alert possible predetors to his presence. He won't play with the toys because there is nobody there to play with him, and assuming you sleep at least 8 hours, this means he is along for 17 hours a day - that leaves 7 hours for human contact during which time no doubt you have chores to do, as well as eat two of your three meals. During these 7 hours (minus 3 hours for your meals, dressing washing etc.) you now have 4 hours to socialise and train him, but he won't be awake for 4 hours on the trot, so we're probably talking about 2 hours, and training should only be a matter of 5 mins at a time, so you're going to have time for perhaps15 minutes training a day!  That's about a quarter of the minimum I would recommend.........

I really don't see how this is going to work :(

If i were you i would maybe get advise from a different vet. I think all puppys of that age need more than 2 meals a day. And my vet certainly wouldnt say it was ok for a puppy/dog to be left alone for 9 hours during the day.

Toilet training will take longer since you are not with him during the day, but he is still very young so it will take a lot more work yet for him to stay clean at night. Stick at it, you will get there in the end. :-)

Puppies are usually on 4 regularly-spaced meals a day till they're 12 weeks, then three meals till they're 6 months or thereabouts. Their stomachs are physically too small to hold the amount of food they need unless it's given this way. A 10-week old beagle has a lot of growing to do.

He won't play with toys unless there's someone there to play with. They're interactive things.

If the breeder said they're house dogs, why on earth are you keeping him outside?

did you say the vet said it was ok to leave him ??? did you tell vet HOW long you were leaving him for !!!!

Sorry, why did you get a dog???

I am appalled at the way you are bringing up this puppy, 9 hours is way too long to leave a 9 week old puppy alone or any dog of any age infact!!!!!

Do you intend to leave your puppy outside for 9 hours a days in the middle of winter, what kind of life is this poor little dog going to have???

Sorry to be rude, but this post really makes me angry.

Basically your work commitments do not suit owning a dog, you really don't have the time for one if you are out everyday for 9 hours.

I'm sitting in front of my pc struggling with the way this thread is going. I don't agree with leaving apuppy outside all day at all, and there are other things in the original post that concern me BUT...many, if not most, dog owners work and still give their dogs quality time and attention. At the risk of being shot I'm going to say that I'm out the house for 9 hours a day too, well actually 9 hours a night as I do night shift. My dogs are left alone for that period of time and always have been. They are fit, well cared for individuals. I took several weeks off work recently to raise a litter and now my 8 week old puppy is left (with her mum) in the kitchen for 9 hours while I'm at work. She doesn't seem to be suffering from this arrangment. She's happy, confident, knows her name and will come and sit and is also very playful. she's pretty much house trained although I leave papers down in the kitchen which she uses while I'm out. She will stay in the kitchen, with a child gate up, until she is properly house trained and able to go all night with accidents and then she will have the run of the house with the other dogs. It's naive and unrealistic to say that only people who don't work full time can look after a dog.

I didn't say everyone who works fulltime shouldn't own a dog or dogs but if you do you can get a dog walker or a friend/neighbour to come in and check or walk your dogs while you are at work.

Basically you are saying you leave your dogs inside on there own ( and your puppy in the Kitchen with Mum ) for 9 hours over night. Do your dogs have access to the garden?

In 9 hours alot can happen, what if one of your dogs feel ill and you come home to find a very sick dog, it could be the difference between them living and dying.

Personally, this is my opinon and I don't think it is fair to leave a dog/s for 9 hours everyday especially if they have no access to the garden.

I also work fulltime and I leave for work a 8.00am and get home at 5.30pm. I have a dog walker come in at 11.30am he walks my dog for an hour and then at 2.30pm my friend/neighbour comes in and collects my dog and he spends the rest of the afternoon at her house with her dog till 5.30pm when I collect him.

I don't want this post to get out of control we obviously view this diffentley as others will on this forum, this is only my personal opinon. :)

I don't get anyone to come in over night and walk the dogs. Most dogs are perfectly happy not getting out for 8 or 9 hours at a time whilst their owners are asleep...and also by the same token I assume you don't get up at 3am to check your dog hasn't fallen ill while you sleep :)

Ofcourse I don't get up at 3.00am to check him but I am always there just metres away from him in my bedroom so he can come into my bedroom or he can bark, cry whatever and I always wake up to him. :)

I feel bad jumping on the bandwagon like this but I have to say that I thought long and hard and we had many family discussions before buying our precious pooch.  What's more one of the first things the breeder wanted to know about us was to make sure that there was going to be someone at home during the day.  Along with the puppy we got a printed diet sheet for her first year which included all of the do's and don'ts, what to feed her, how much and when at different ages.  Also she printed a sheet of handy tips for owners of new puppies.  My dog is 20 mths but only this week I felt confident enough to phone the breeder to ask advice and she was only too pleased to hear from me and ask how we are getting on. I'm afraid I think if breeders care they would ask some questions and if these questions are asked and then ignored then I'm afraid the owner hasn't thought about what being responsible for a puppy really means.

poor little puppy thats all i have to say :(

As others have said I wouldn't leave him outside on his own - I would worry too much about what could happen to him, is your kennel and run completely secure, are there any plants he could eat in the garden or places he could get stuck or ways to hurt himself? When you work it is difficult to fit on 4 meals and also time to play with him, cuddle him and train him but it is all possible. I wouldn't worry about the pedigree puppy being too rich for him, on the contrary it's a quality food and he should have smaller motions with it. As others have said so well I would suggest that his final meal is just too big for his little tummy. Your partner should feed him as soon as they arrive home, lets assume thats around 5, then you could feed him at 8 and just a small meal before bed then his breakfast before you leave in the morning. I would continue to leave a dish of dry puppy food down for him too in case he is hungry through the day. I really wouldn't use pepper or vinegar in the kitchen - it's important he's happy here. Just leave papers down for him, most pups like to keep there beds clean. I'm afraid you'll just have to put up with cleaning up after him for a while - it's all part of owning a puppy. If he's only 10 weeks old he shouldn't be going out for walks at all until fully vaccinated, then just short walks mainly to socialise him. Time with your puppy should be spent playing with him and short pieces of fun training. Hope this helps.

I keep thinking of more things to add to this. Please always leave water down for your puppy - I was horrified to read on the back of a pack of piddle pads that you should restrict water intake - dogs should always have access to fresh water. I also leave a bowl of dry puppy food down all day and night for my puppy and she hasn't done anything through the night for the past 3 nights. They get used to having food down all the time and don't binge on it. All my adults are fed this way too which works well for borzois as they are prone to bloat. As well as having dry food down all the time though you should still be giving your puppy 4 meals a day - did the breeder give you a diet sheet for him?

Also, at 10 weeks he can only of just had his second vac, so how and why is he going for 2 walks, hes not covered from his vacs yet,plus he should be receiving 3 meals a day until around 6 months, like others i too feel sorry for this puppy   :(

I think we all feel sorry for the puppy, but these people are obviously new to dog ownership and they've asked for help so it's better to give it to them than condem them. We can't make them give the puppy back to the breeder, we can't turn the clock back but we can advise the owners and try and make life better for them all.

Fair enough, if they won't return him to the breeder, and the OP has admitted they fear they have taken on too much here, then I don't feel they can offer a decent life to this puppy unless they can rejig their hours between them to ensure he has company for all but, say, 3-4 hours a day rising to 5-6 maximum in adulthood.  I know people are going to say their dog is perfectly happy left all day and maybe the odd individual is but I believe a great many more are miserable, they may not always show it by being noisy or distructive but given the choice of human companionship against even that of another dog they will generally opt for the human given the chance.  Human lives have changed in the last 50 years or so, many homes now have no-one at home during the day but that is just a minute blip in the time scale of the millenium that we have been breeding dogs to require our companionship we cannot expect dogs to change in an instant to accomodate our new livestyles, sometimes we just have to accept that we really can't offer a dog a good enough home.

The breeders should never have considered letting a puppy go to a home where the owners are out all day. I would never, ever let a puppy go to a home under those circumstances. I agree these can change, but not that quick when the poor little soul is only 10 weeks old. They must only have had hime a couple of weeks. I hope he didn't go before he was 8 weeks old!!  Why don't they get a cat. Mind even kitten need more than two feeds a day. Bad idea there ;)

I can't see that a "breeder" who saw fit to cross a beagle with a jack russell would give two hoots about what happened to the pup.  Surely they wouldn't have allowed the dog to be homed under such circumstances if they had the dogs best interests at heart.

This is such a sad story and I am sure the OP is well meaning but perhaps a little ill informed about the responsibilities that dog ownership can bring.

I wish them all well.

OK I'm going to jump in with my own experiences here - I work full time ( teach) my hubby works full time  too . We have had dogs for over 20 years and always worked full time - granted one or other of us would take some weeks off work to settle in a new pup but after that they would be left all day while we were at work. We currently have 6 dogs and hand on my heart we have NEVER had any problems caused by leaving them whilst at work ( and I do have a breed prone to separation anxiety) It has only been the last couple of years that am I able to pop home every lunch time ( we live 6 minutes away from the school that I am teaching in) . The dogs barely acknowledge that I am there - they just carry on snoozing !. They know that their walks and meals are morning and evening and so they simply crash out through the day. We have also bred a couple of litters over that time - co-inciding their birth with my long holidays or paying someone to be a puppy sitter untill I get home. Our dogs are our life and every spare moment is spent with them BUT we do have to work- lets be realistic about this folks and give this poster some support instead of taking the moral high ground.

Quite honestly I have seen treatment far worse from some show folk who think nothing of driving their dogs 4/5 hours to a show crating them or chaining them on benches all day than driving 4/5 hours back ( crated again !)

Yvonne

I think you are right in that most dogs will adapt to their owners lifestyles.  There is usually someone here during the day but there are days when our dog is left most of the day and I expect she sleeps because that what she does anyway and she is a very active breed.  I creep in the house to see what she is doing and can hear her trotting across the floor from where her open crate is and she doesn't destroy the house either, but then I was around most of the time every day when we first got her to train and try and avoid her developing behaviours that I didn't want.(with lots of advice as I'm not an expert)  When dogs are puppies you don't know what 'problem' behaviours they might develop that might need immediate attention to address the problem.  What if this puppy is spooked by something and starts barking all day long?  What if he gets out somehow or gets stolen?  We live in a quiet cul-de-sac and have two gates before you get to our garden but we have had intruders in our garden twice that we know about.  I don't think anyone thinks these people don't love their puppy or that they should give it up but young puppies need more supervision than this if they want to avoid problems that are best dealt with while they are young.  They might be very lucky and not develop any problems at all but it would be down luck.

to original poster

You've made the first move and come here for advice.  In our own way we are all trying to give it.  There is lots of good info to go on and you obviously love your pup or you would not be listening to us. 

The one thing I have to question is your vets advice.  From any view point it is wrong, feeding, walking length of time alone.  Is your vet offering puppy socialisation classes, if so get yourself along there.  Talk with other puppy owners, get different points of view.  Are there more vets in the surgery?  Ask your questions again, of a different vet, as if you haven't asked before, you may be surprised at the different points of view different vets have.

I have just had a talk with a newly qualified vet about breeding my girl and got a 75% variation on what I have been told previously.  When I go back in a couple of weeks, I will ask my questions again - different vet -  and before the breeding I will see the other vet in the surgery and ask again. I have spoken with my breeder at length also, only then will I feel I have a truly informed view and I wont feel I had to make any descision on my own.

One of the posts on here mentions vaccinations.  Your pup is not covered yet and is at great risk from any bugs out there on the ground in poos on leaves.  Bones are still delicate and most reputable breeders would say don't walk your puppy as if it was an adult until 6 months old and with some breeds not even then.  Lots of little 10 minuite walks, one very 2 hours.  Lots of playtime, winding town toward evening and sleep.

I think you love your puppy very much and you want to do your best for the little scrap.  When he does find his voice, dependant on the breed around 3 to 4 months you could find you have some very unhappy neighbours.  Many puppies feel happier in the house rather than outside. 

Puppies will become accustomed to almost anything, with all due respect a lot of the posters who leave their dogs all day are leaving two or more dogs together and as pack animals they will be happy with this, your dog will sleep alot when you are away and has no concept of time being left alone.  If cries do not bring attention generaly the crying will stop but his doesnt mean your pup is happy. 

We both work and have to take time off to bring puppies on using up our leave in large chunks to cover the initial period, and then we have to go back to work.  The dogs are left inside with a good area to excersise and we organise for them to be let out into the garden for a while a lunch time.  They are happy and scoialised and healthy. 

With the winter coming I know you are going to bring your puppy inside and you will need to have some one come in once during the day to allow for toileting and the mid day meal.  You've got dog people around you, someone will be only too willing to help. 

Keep asking questions and listen to your dog, they can tell you a lot if you tune into them.

Good luck with your puppy.

Yvonne

I take my dogs to shows & yes we do long drives & they are crated until they are got ready for the ring, but & is it quite a bit but I am there with them they go for a pee etc on arrival(they have pee jackets to stop them piddling on their front leg feathers-not very nice to judge a dog that whiffs of pee), leg stretching before the go into the ring & after they have been in the ring they go for a wander around & sit on the grooming table etc

They are not left alone for 9 hours & it isn't every day(my last show was in July)At present my show dogs have just been gardening & digging with me whilst I trained my puppy & now lie tired out asleep on top of/alongside the GSD

Not quite the same as being left alone all day is it ?

I would also like to point out that the folk here who work seem to have "dogs" as opposed to one dog....which, IMO. makes a big difference.... :)

And Dog as opposed to 9 week old puppy.......

Yep.

Hi Greyknee

I think some people on this forum are too quick to judge people not as experienced as themselves. I was reading another post:

"I got a brill one for the little girl that has gone to Holland, but am kind of dreading the girl going tommorrow in the cabin Gatwick to Atlanta (8 hour flight) and then a 7 hour Car Journey to North Carolina."

Is this acceptable treatment of a young dog? or double standards

I'm not sure of your point, Maggie24, but how else would you suggest exporting a puppy to another continent?

It's not as if it's going to happen every day, after all - it's a one-off journey! Also, during the drive, it's not impossible to stop every hour for a break ...  ;)

.....and flying in the cabin which is a world of difference to travelling alone in a hold, but that is talking about a one off occasion anyway nothing like keeping a pup in isolation everyday.
It is not my intention to "judge" the OP Maggie, infact, I do not believe they are treating this puppy wrongly deliberately and in an uncaring way I just think they have bitten off more than they can chew and Grayknee has commented to that effect herself.  Although I do find her comments about coming home several times a day and looking out the window to the puppy but appearing to leave it to husband to sort out pup when he comes home after 9 hours rather odd :rolleyes:
I'm not sure I blame the vet either, he may have seen the purchase of the pup as a fait accompli and the emphasis may have been "pup will be OK with plenty of toys" meaning better than just left alone with nothing.  As has been discussed in another thread these consultations are hard to judge when one is not present.
The one person I would blame is the breeder who has gone so far as to advise Grayknee that the dog should be in the house but does not seem to have gone to any great trouble to place this puppy in a home capable of meeting its needs even as far as she sees it.
The situation really does make me feel very sad, for Grayknee as well as the pup, as I really can't see what advise, other than providing this puppy with a great deal more time and attention, would make this situation at all reasonable.

Very well said Isabel!

i hope greyknee hasnt been scared off! ;-)
i agree 9 hours is too long for a tiny pup, i have a 6 month old bc at the moment, and i know there is no way i could leave her for that long for her to get up to her own devices. without going back and checking the posts again, i havent seen anywhere mentioned about possibly creating the safe haven outside for the pup,or inside if possible. i know its nowhere near ideal, but wouldnt it be better if you knew it was safe all day. when i did dog walking a couple of years ago i had a boxer breeder as one of my customers and her dogs were out side in a kennel and run each day, my job was to go and play with them in a big enclosed garden for an hour at luch time, which then broke the day up for them and they were all secure. if you ring around local vet surgeries they are bound to have contact details for local dog walkers etc, they can also feed your pup, as two meals isnt enough for such a little pup.

sorry if it dosent make sense what im trying to say - but im ill!

greyknee, i hope you come back and read thru the posts, people only are trying to give advice the best they can!

I put the blame on the breeder.  My litter only went to homes where there was someone in some time during the day, or only worked part-time.  I would never consider letting anyone have a puppy where it was going to be left for so long, it's not right.  If you are at work all day then a dog walker should be at hand or a friend who can call in during the day to break up the day for the puppy.  They do sleep a lot and certainly need 4 meals a day.  Hopefully you can find someone to do this for you or you will end up with a very sad pet.  I had a work colleague who left her dog for 10 hours a day and I felt so sorry for her dog.  It's not right and I don't care what anybody say's if you really loved dogs you wouldn't do it.

The alternative to going in the cabin (they really had to hunt around the airlines to find ones that would allow them in the cabin with them) is to go in the cargo hold in a larger container in the dark alone.

Puppies have actually had just as long journeys to their new homes in the UK, to Scotland for example.

The reason the three owners chose to fetch the pups themsleves and have them with them throughout the journey.  The ones to Holland drove over and had their pup home within about 6 hours (Eurotunnel), and the one to spain about the same, compared well with the 5 hour drive the pup going to wales had.

As Jeangenie said this is a one off trip home, arranged to minimise the stress of travel.  The 8 hour flight will ahve entailed getting pup out and changing the puppy pads in her travel bag, or using one by their feet, and then a stops on the drive home.

has everyone forgotten about the 10 week old pup thats left ALONE all day

No, we're just sorting out a tangent to someone who's got hold of the wrong end of the stick somehow.