I had a letter this morning from the KC the affix fee now is £17 and £20 if not paid by Direct Debit,can you imagine how much revenue that is I'm not sure how many affixes there but in the directory are approx 134 names in each column and three columns on each page and 166 pages all though the last page isnt a full page.(maths are not my thing)
But hey what an income :)
People like me who have held an affix twenty years have to keep paying anyway even though I havent bred a litter for five years (though have added my affix to my new dogs) and even so i'll have to maintain it another 20yrs god willing i'm still here ;) at least so no one else could have it. :) :)

Oh my god thats over over a £1million a year in affix maintance fees!

What do they do with all this money??

better at maths than me eh ? LOL

No just meant to be working and had a calculator in front of me :D :D

Hi
As if the tons of income isn't enough l'm a bit miffed it has gone up from £12 to £17 that's a 42% increase! Just a bit above inflation eh?
Nicky

its to pay for them to have ladida lunches and teas and buy expensive pictures to look at in there offices we still have to use them it makes everyone mad to think of how much money they get 10 thousand staffs registered last year at £12 and then is it £10 to transfer them in to new ownership is 220 thousand and thats just one breed. my god what do they do with it all

And doesnt it just annoy you thinking about all those fivers for a breed supplement. How much just from that?

is the kennel club still privatly owned?

Well I will add my bit also. As I have just got my affix 2 weeks ago and I am kind of proud to have it but I do think it is a bit costly, just a bit.

I went and made a wee mistake also as I put the ownership of my 2 dogs in my name only so when I registed my affix and wanted to put my hubbys name on it also ( just to keep him involved, He'll pick up the poo then :-) ) KC also then wanted off the top of my head £ 10 for each dog to add affix to their names ( My Dogs names) and either £8 or £ 10 to add my hubby to the ownership of the dogs.

so it was either £110 or £106 whatever it was a little expensive.

I ended up not putting hubbys name on it and it was £ 70 plus the £10 each dog. £ 90 all in.

I can't make up my mind about the maintenace fee as not sure quite how much work they have to do. It would seem for the outside that all they do is say no to people trying to register with your affix or very similar but I have no doubt we will be told there is a lot more to be done.

Bye for now..

Pam :-)

PS Don't tell hubby or he will refuse to pick up poo.

Pam :-)

Just like to make a comment on the subject of the affix. As you probably know, The kennel Club used to publish all Affix Applications in the Gazette. You had untill the last day of that issue to object if you thought a proposed affix was similar to one already registered. Why then are they now (from April) only printing applications granted? Whats the use of printing that when its too late to do anything anyway if an affix sounds like your own? You would think that for a £20 maintenance fee you would at least have the opportunity to somehow be kept informed.

ive had the same problem when i married i left my dogs in my maiden name because of the cost now im divorced i dont have to change them back again. new partner wants to marry he has agreat interest in the dogs and want me to change them ive told him about the expense and he said leave it as it is

There is no cost to change name if it is due to marriage. I just got married in December and I changed my dogs free of charge.

Also the new affix is still published in the gazette and it is still challengable for 28 days just the same as it was.

The reason the owrden has changed it that the checking methods at the beginning when the affix name is first selected is a bit more ridgid and the KC have a better data base so there have been less problems with objections.

Your affix is now granted right away subect to their checks and objections.

It just means you get the bit paper quicker. You can not transfer dogs names for a month just as before till the affix has been published etc..

Pam :-)

PS you just send your marriage certificate and they change the name and send you new certificates free of charge . They sent me 5 generations free of charge.#

Pam

well your very lucky coz they dont very often give any thing away its all the messing about and a few years ago they lost a form 1 i sent in sent another and then they sent me 2 lots of papers and charged me twice,took ages to sort. phone calls cost me a fortune and they never even apolagised for it.

Hi Gwen,

I think you may be right it is the luck of the draw.

A couple times I phoned up to sneak and see if I could get them to check to see ifmy selection of affix names had been used and I got the cold shoulder. I felt like writing and complaining.

Then one day I phoned and I got this really nice girl who help me change my selection and she was great.

It is the usual services now aday and you are suprised to get a good service as you expect a bad one which is terrible really.

Speaking of which I send my new moible to get repaired as it was asking up after 2 months and Royal Mail has lost the thing.. I am only covered up to so much with them. We have to pay for insurance incase they lose things.. LOL you have to laugh.

We have to pay our own isurances for everything ... oh I best hush..

Pam ;-)

Do I take it you sent it recorded Pam?

Stacey x x x

Stacey,

Yes it went recorded. I sent my collegue to the post office with it to get it sent to be repaired.

The girl at the counter apparently said it would be insured.

Well it has went AWOL.

I have contacted their head office today and have faxed them a letter telling them I will take legal action if it does not turn up.

it is techically thief but will see how much affect my letter has.

It never fails eh?

Pam

Hi pamela,can I tell you what happened to me re: joint names on Affix.
When I first got my affix all my dogs and Affix were in joint names with my then husband,when we split up I had a terrible time of all the horrid things he could dream up being awkward about the dogs were the worst.
I was really stuck untill some time later he relented and allowed me to have them in my own name,although it was a battle at least at the end I was successful after all I was the one who showed the dogs,looked after them etc.. the positively worst day for me was when he got his solicitor to demand my dearest and most beloved dog just to be awkward.And when I was in the depths of despair he turned round and laughed and said he found it funny and it was ok I could keep her.
Anyway I would always advise people to have the affix and dogs in their own name just in case.

Here's a novice/lay person type question:

In future I plan to breed. When and how does one aquire an affix? How is it granted? What is the critiria? How are the names chosen? I realize it's all KC rules and regs, but what are they?
I'm sure I will now be laughed at and ask WHY I want to breed, etc.
But I'm here to learn, so be gentle.
Thanks,
Megbel

Hiya,

If you go onto the KC website you can download a form for applying for an affix. As long as the affix is not already in use or very similar to another one that's already in use then it's granted.

I've just got mine and I didn't have to offer any explanation as to why I want it.

Fiona
x x x

Wow.
Thanks for the info issymum and Pamela. Who knew it was that simple?
I thought perhaps you had breed a litter first or have someone initiate you.
I shall keep doing my homework.
Megbel

I am also a first time breeder and have just had my first affix application rejected as all my choices were either already in use or similar to another. It's really hard to think of anything and the kennel club are not very helpful, you can't phone and check if your choices are OK before you send them and anyway I can never get through on the phone. You'd think they would have some sort of search facility on their website. I notice that they took my money even though they rejected the application!
Jane :rolleyes:

Oh, what a shame. If your choice is a specific word such as 'beautiful' have you thought about using a foreign version of that word.

Altenatively what about a latin Affix, there are some lovely latin words.

My 4yr old made up my affix, it's a bit of a jumbled up word but it's certainly individual.

Fiona
x x x

So What is your affix then Fiona?

Sorry i've got all these ideas going through my head and am just being nosey :D

Tracy

I went along the use a different language line. Lived in a house called Thunderdell, changed the Thunder to the Norse Thor and put the dell back. My affix is Thordell. JH

My affix, Jerakeen, is the name of a space elephant :D

a what ???

Its out of the Discworld series. Terry Pratchett fan me hence the name of some of my dogs Jerakeen Equal Rites and Shellkirma the Hogfather!

ah ha - I see now.
I keep saying I'm going to read those books - might have made more sense to me then :D

Only space thing I know is a Space Hopper ;)

Jane have you tried putting all your family names,dogs names etc down on paper and mixing them My friends affix Leronsa was made up of her son Lee her Hubby Ron and the end of her daughters lisa 's name Just a suggestion,My affix Fullwell was named a after a tiny wood accross from where we used to live.its just a case of dropping on a name I have the list of affixes so if your not sure before sending yours off give me a ring or email me and Ill check for you. My Number 01254207660

Thanks for your suggestions, Mattie. Have now succeeded with my sixth choice, the name of our favourite restaurant visited while on holiday in Umbria, Italy! Now I'll have to think of Italian names for the puppies due on Saturday, yikes!
Jane

What breed Jane? :-)

Golden Retriever

Jane

Hi Megbel ,

Here is the link

http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/forms/form10.pdf

Just think up a single name must be 12 letters or less I believe and that is it pay your £70 and they will do the rest.

Hope this helps.

Pam

The shorter you keep the affix the more scope you have with nameing pups, as they only allow 26 letters including the affix! I would never critiscise you for wanting to breed at a later date once you have done the ground work. Now if you had just thought of it when your bitch was in season and Knew nothing about your breed then I wpould try to show you that it isn't as simple as it seems! LOL :D We all started somewhere!!!

Hi Mattie,

I have to say after one failed marriage myself , one failed 7 year relationship and one Law degree later I 100% agree with you.

I have just got married again last December LOL.

I have learned the hard way and when people turn boy do they turn.

Never a truer saying that Dogs are a WOmans best freind.

BFN Pam ;-)

Is an affix £70 now? That's extortionate for a one word that identifies you, when you think of the maintenance fees and the puppy registration names we pay to the KC, why did they make a loss last year?

It took me 9 attempts to get an affix and even then I don't like the one I've got but just couldn't be bothered trying to think up anymore :(

I actually wanted 'Jarlshof' but a 'Jarlhof' is in existance! Funny, there's a 'Lorinford' and also a 'Lornford' affix in two different gundog breeds!!!!! At least Jarlhof was a working breed affix, I have gundogs.......

Lily

It could be that the owner of 'Jarlhof' made a complaint about yours were as the owners of 'Lorinford or Lornford did not. Jackie H

Hi Lily,

I was the same the one I want I was not allowed as it was similar. A few years ago you used to get to select anyone and even if it was similar and the other owner didn't object it was OK but now that will not even consider anyone similar this changed about 3 years ago.

The reason for this is that they wanted to promote a 10 day turn around on the affix application but could not do this if there was any risk of objections. If they make the rule that the affix must be comletely different then the won't get objections, they won't have to do any additional work and it can all be done it 10 days but they still have a clause that won't be needed that if there is an objection your affix , the name can still be recalled. Objections are now few and far between because of this new method.

Hope this makes sense..

Pam