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Topic Dog Boards / Visitors Questions / fresh tripe
- By Guest [gb] Date 31.08.05 13:09 UTC
Is it ok to give your dogs fresh tripe from the butchers, it is beef tripe. I do normally give them frozen tripe, once it has defrosted, but to be honest the smell is enough to turn my stomache. Also the little devils don't always eat it.
The fesh tripe i get comes in a strip ans doesn't have that horrid smell, but i would hate to but there tums at risk.
So is fresh ok or am i best sticking to frozon.

Lorraine
- By susantwenty? [gb] Date 31.08.05 14:05 UTC
I'd imagine fresh is okay to, as it is fresh.

Warm regards Susan
- By Natalie1212 Date 31.08.05 14:09 UTC
I may be wrong but wasn't there a post a couple of weeks ago about needing to give food that had been frozen and defrosted rather than fresh meats, it may have only been a certain type of meat or something, but you may be better off having a chat with Tohme, or anyone else that actually feeds raw!

Why not join, it is free and easy, and then you will be able to ask as many questions as you liked :D
- By archer [gb] Date 31.08.05 16:45 UTC
The problem with tripe from a butchers is that it is usually 'bleached' for human consupmtion.You are better off feeding greed tripe,
Archer
- By archer [gb] Date 31.08.05 16:46 UTC
Natalie...fresh meats are fine...although freezing is ok it is not a neccessity
Archer
- By Natalie1212 Date 31.08.05 16:59 UTC
Archer, I knew there was another person with all the info on raw feeding! Sorry!!

Wasn't there a post only a couple of weeks ago about some chicken or something that somebody gave to their dog, and he died because of some thing on this chicken that wouldn't have been there if the meat had been frozen and then defrosted first?

I am off to see if I can find it!
- By Natalie1212 Date 31.08.05 17:04 UTC
I can't do links to other CD posts but here is the copy and pasted post that I am on about:

I've crossposted this from another site.

>Have any of you heard of neosporosis canineum??????


Well, up to this week I had not, but I do know alot about this now. UNFORTUNATLY.
Last saturday we were having a barbeque and invited just a small group of local friends.. Stephen and I went shopping to Tesco early in the week, and as I am now disabled and walk with a stick, I suggested that we purchased some of the meat for the barby, for that weekend....... as I cant go shopping on my own ( thats why you dont see me at shows these days) basically killing two birds with one stone. We purchased many items, but amongst them were two large packets of lean minced steak, that I intended to make my own burgers from... as they were large packs, and on arrival home, did not know what to do for tea, so suggested spaghetti bolognaise....... I took about one third of the mince from one of these packets and put it in a pan...... all of the rest of the meat was then frozen for the weekend. My boxer then came into the kitchen and as I had not starting cooking then, I removed some of the mince and gave it to her......mmmmmmmm she loved it. Then stephen called her, a
nd her mother and fed the dogs , whilst I prepared the spag bol.

This was tuesday evening last week... then came friday and Cilla was starting to act strange. Hanging her head to one side, and slightly falling as if she was drunk. Saturday she seemed to stabalise and I thought a little better, and thinking she had an inner ear infection started her on a course of synulox 250 mg tablets three times daily, as the vet would. By monday she was worse so was rushed to the vets........ I was so upset, I could not rememeber half of what he said but he did say he was doing one particular test that had to be sent away. In either case, if it did come back possitive for neospora he would start her on the antibitics there and then, and he said the synulox I had given was good.

She was a little better on tues evening so was allowed home. still hanging her head to one side, and walking in circles and then falling over. We continued with the drugs, then, wednesday came and my vet rang to say the tests results were possitive. She was infected with neospora. We then racked our brains how she could get this awfull desease.....not virus! apparantly very few cases are reported, because it is masked by so many symptoms...

Neospora is a parasite that is ingested from contaminted meat, that is fresh, and from the consumption it only takes 1-3 days for the parasite to attack the brain, then work its way down the spinal cord, and infect all the major organs and mussles.......leaving the dog paralised and blind..... At 9.30 yesterday morning I had to have my beautifull Cilla eathanaised, to save further suffering.

On reserching this, on the internet, it mostly appears in cattle heards and clinicle tests have been carried out at liverpool university, and sweden, and the USA. It is usually more common in costa rica, south america, but is gradually showing up everywhere. Very few cases were reported last yr. the syptoms rang from a weekeness and paralysis of the forlimbs, drunken type behaviour, altered behavier, blindness, head tilt, head nodding, tremors, seizures,sudden death due to heart inflamation, pheumonia, skin abnormalities. Frightening isnt it?

It can only be ingested fron fresh meat, as freezing the meat will kill the spors.... cooked meat will kill the spors. As we eat very little meat ourselves, and never feed fresh uncooked meat to our dogs , I can definatly say that it was the fresh lean mince steak from tesco, that is the cause.

Neospora can not use humans as a host so if ingested the stomach will kill the spores, so dont worry there........ it only affects, cattle, pigs, sheep, goats, but has now moved to dogs, and research on the internet suggests ALL dog breeders be aware of this parasite. From the onset of ingesting the spores, my dog was dead within 8 1/2 days....... She was my constant house companion, and our hearts have been ripped apart. How many of you, when in the kitchen, preparing the evening meal, give some fresh meat to your dog... Please look it all up, its frightening to think that this is in the human food chain. Apparantly only one animal is inspected from each heard to be slaughtered, but thats this counrty. A lot of meat now comes from other countries..... if in doubt, still buy the meat, but FREEZE it before you intend using it for at least 24 hrs.

Cilla was 16 months and four days old, when she died.
I will of course, be informing DEFRA , and advising our local tesco store, but on an advisory capacity only!
Anne Hellmuth

All raw meat is fine to feed after it has been frozen and defrosted as this kill's the spore's.
- By Moonmaiden Date 31.08.05 17:09 UTC
That is quite an old story & has been on here before, but if anyone has any concerns then freezing for 24 hours kills the parasite. It is rarely if ever found on organic meat or in organic herds/flocks.

Most people who feed raw have to freeze most of their meat because obviously it wouldn't stay fresh for long(the dogs would probably like it even more tho' ;) )
- By Natalie1212 Date 31.08.05 17:13 UTC
Oh OK, just thought the OP may have been interested. :D
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