Are yellow flat coated retrievers still cropping up in litters today? Can anyone name what dogs in particular are more likely to produce yellow?
ive seen a few on varoius swedish and american sites, is that mainly where they are?
i was atalking point between some friends and i, they didnt believe they were still around as most have been bred out, because unlike labradors they arent a registered colour.  what do people do with them if they do have on ein theyre litter?

They are still coming through.  There were a couple in a litter back in May of this year.  They will always continue to come through.  It will never be totally eradicated - although one can (if one wishes) do a colour DNA test on your dog to see if it is a carrier.

From a personal point of view I would worry far more about dogs being used from lines that carry high hip scores, or inherent health problems, than I would about a dog that carried the yellow gene. 

Having said that I am glad that it is not a recognised colour because I believe that unscrupulous breeders would start using it to push the price up because of the rarity value.  I remember when Chocalate labs were rarer than they are now one would read adverts saying "rare chocolate colour" and charge an extra £100.  A rare colour is no more valuable than a more common colour.  The only difference is that they are rarer - they all cost the same to rear.

Becky

And this charging extra for an unsusal colour dosent happen with Liver flat coats which are I believe a recognised colour??

I'm sure every responsible FCR breeder here will agree with me that we do not charge extra for liver puppies, and never would. If you buy from a breeder charging more for this colour then you should be asking yourself "Is this a responsible caring breeder?".

Having said that I am wondering if this thread has been raised again when we have said it was discussed thoroughly recently, is infact a troll posting, in which case the Admin advice is "DO NOT FEED!"

Sadly as with most things in life the reputable ones are few and far between and there will always be a demand for something a bit different.

As Becky says they do still crop up. Most are sold to pet homes with no papers. In the UK where FCR's are more numerous you will find breeders do not breed from them.

What I think is of greater concern is the health, type and temperament of any dog bred whatever the breed. As the breed seems to be going through a population explosion at the moment, (this last quarter of the BRS has double the number of litters and puppies bred compared with the same quarter in previous years registered), I would expect to see a lot more pups of yellow colour or poorer examples of the breed coming through. Having said that there were no yellow puppies registered, which does not mean to say they weren't born, just that they weren't registered.

Actually there were some pups registered this quarter as non standard colour and their names including gold and blonde suggest that they were yellow.
Amos

They were yellow.  My mother actually saw them.  However, our breed standard only recognises Black and Liver and therefore they had to be registered as "non standard".

A lot of people don't register them because they don't want to admit to having bred them.

Becky

Personally I'd be slightly worried that people were breeding litters and calling them gold & blonde, indicating they don't even know the correct term. I despair when I see what colours some Mals get registered as :rolleyes: We now have chocolates and livers when the correct term is red - Oh and Seal/Grey and White Seal and Grey are two different colours.

I think the pups were reg as colour 'non standard' and it is their KC name only that includes the words gold or blond or whatever to reflect the yellow colour they are (possibly to jog their breeders memory years down the line as to which pups were this non standard colour) because they cannot have the colour yellow on their reg documents as has to be either black, liver or non standard.

The KC will not register them as yellow? Interesting, in Mals they allow chocolate and liver to be registered for red and I have seen one litter just registered as Wolf (if I remember correctly). Now these are not colours as per our standard - though you can have Wolf Grey and White, Wolf Sable and White, or Red and White. Though I suppose yellow is completely different to Liver and Black where as Red/Chocolate/Liver do describe a similar colouring - it just depends on the breed as to which is the correct terminology.

The KC have some interesting ideas about colour, our boxer pup (dark brindle) was registered by the breeder as 'black and white' though there's no such thing as a black boxer - only fawn or brindle in different shades / tones.

I did question them over this and they said currently they have no colour restrictions on the breed and will put down whatever the breeder enters on their registration form. Interestingly I had a look further up the pedigree and most have been registered as black / white so it's seems to be the norm.