Hi people,

I have 2 EBTs one dog and one bitch who are 5 months old. They get on fine except one thing, as soon as i let them in the kitchen/living room, Lennon will start barking at Lily until she will snap at him and then theres alot of growling etc and we have to split them up. Its quite frightening sometimes, we just put them back in their cages until they calm down. When we let them out into the kitchen etc they start again. Why is this?

Also when we take them out for walks, Lennon will keep snapping at Lily for the 1st 5 mins, after that hes fine.

Is there anything we can do to stop this? Im not sure whether hes being dominant etc?

Any info/advice would greatly be received.

This is one of the reasons we advise people don't have 2 pups from the same litter.You own a bull breed which is not known for being the best around other dogs and if at 5 months you are already having problems with dog to dog aggression I don't think things are likely to get any better.Unless you have the facilities to keep them seperate permanently I would be thinking about rehoming one of them before serious damage is done...I'm sorry if thats not what you wanted to hear
Archer

No im afraid its not, but i dont understand how they get on so well yet when they are in the kitchen he starts? Is there not anything i can do to help them get on better?

Cheers

Can you keep them out of the kitchen if this is the only place trouble starts.I would also make sure they were NEVER left unattended together...a few cross words can soon develope into a blood bath!
Archer

It sounds to me as though they're trying to sort out their ranking relative to each other. Usually between a dog and a bitch it's straightforward - the bitch is usually the boss - but your two are very similar in age, and a breed which isn't renowned for its easy-going nature with other dogs. :( Generally you'd leave them to sort it out between themselves, but in your case that might end in serious bloodshed. What's certain is that one will end up ranking higher than the other, and you must back that up.

Just to add to the others posts, it could be worse in the kitchen because of food - where yours is prepared and where possibly they are fed/dog food is stored? On walks it is likely to be the first 5 minutes because of the initial excitement of going out. I would put a baby gate on the kitchen so you can keep them out and keep the boy on lead on walks until that first 5 minutes has gone.

I am amazed any decent breeder sold you 2 pups at the same time so I have to wonder about their line and how much thought was put into their breeding. Good luck with them, you are going to need it when their hormones kick in, which from the sound of it wont be long. You may well end up with no choice but to rehome one of them. :(

Hi its King of bling with the bully! Are you sure it is agression? They could be play fighting?  I know when my bully Julius plays with my boxer it sounds a lot worse than it looks!  A bull terrier can live with other animals, provided that they arrive in the home together during infancy which yours has and are raised without favouritism.!!!Bull terriers can be food-possessive. Having two bullies you will want to be sure that each is given its own bowl or treat well away from the other possibly in separate rooms until all food is gone.I would recommend attending training classes with them as bull terriers like to take charge and may at some time challenge you for the dominant position. Bull terriers need discipline in their lives in order to understand how their pack(you) functions. I wouldn't be too hasty as to rehome them as they are only five mths old so act quickly and this can be resolved. Have you thought about training with them? If you feel that the situation is more serious I would suggest seeing a behaviouist. You can ask your vet for a referal?

Hi King of Bling.

There's no way i'm going to re-home them at all, people who don't own bully's never understand what they are like and automatically presume they are vicious, which they are most definately not! It's nice to see someone with bully experience on here!

They get on like a house on fire; they follow each other like lost sheep, cuddle up and sleep next to each other, play, play fight together, everything. It is only the first 5 mins when he's in the kitchen with us that he barks, after that he is absolutely fine again, it seems like he wants all the attention and is trying to let us know he's there!! It's not agression, just noise!

They aren't food possesive at all, we can quite easily pick up there dinner half way through and move it to a different place, or take it away etc, no problems with that. They are doing well with their training, eg: respond when i call them, respond when i whistle, sit when they are told, and are slowly getting the idea of laying down and waiting. So i don't think its a disobedience thing. I think it's purely an act of attention seeking, if he barks we just ignore him and then give him praise when he is quiet so i'm sure he'll get the idea soon, afterall he is still only a little kid!

Thanks for all the help, it's nice to have a proper response to a post rather than all the one-sided anti-bully, anti-2-puppies in one house, anti-puppies from the same litter rubbish.

I'll let you know how i get one!

Many thanks!

"I have 2 EBTs one dog and one bitch who are 5 months old. They get on fine except one thing, as soon as i let them in the kitchen/living room, Lennon will start barking at Lily until she will snap at him and then theres alot of growling etc and we have to split them up. Its quite frightening sometimes, we just put them back in their cages until they calm down. When we let them out into the kitchen etc they start again. Why is this?"

This post certainly sounded like you were having problems of agression and posters responded accoringly with the best advice.

Two pups togethe is rarely a good idea, two bullbredd dogs are rarely left alone together by expereinced bull breed owners.

In most breeds people do find that two dogs the saem age will fall out at some point but not usually dogs and bitches, but bull breeds are dog dominant by nature so this cannot be relied on.

It is the same old thing, people only want to hear what they want to hear at times. Not meaning to be cheeky and only used this thread as an example. ( i haven't even read it all but they are popping up again regularly) :-)

I have this month, had two grumpy , badly behaved dogs in for trimming, growling and snapping.  Both I have told not to come back, not because I think it couldn't be sorted out with reorder of who is the boss BUT the owners come up with the most silly excuses , oh he has been upset because of this or that. The dog has gotten out of control.  One told me that when she picks the dog up it growls and so puts it back down. I guess we have to perform miracles ;-)

One lady in a postive example had a dog she was terrifed of but with a bit of time and reorder has a good relationship with him now and I can trim him without any fear. She wanted and accepted the help. Tried and it worked.

You can take the horse to the water but ;-)

If you tell us your dogs bark, growl and snap at each other in a frightening way, I think it's fair for people to assume you mean what you say!

Do they look as they they are going to inflict harm at this point.  As they are so young it may sort itself out.  By seperating them they may learn that aggression against a dog achieves the aim - get the other dog out of the way.  You might supervise the set to and if it is not too violent let it come to a conclusion.  It will not be pretty but may work.  At least at this age if you have to step in they should not cause any real damage.  You said there was a snap then some growling - that does not sound it has progressed to the drastic stage yet.  For these two to live together happily they may need to understand which one is the boss and it sounds as though that is unclear to them both at this point.  Sounds more like a stand off than a fight to the death at this point though.