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By Sandie
Date 30.07.05 21:52 UTC
Can anyone explain to me why this often appears in adverts for springers, I always though Rytex was a breed line, is there a problem with this line, if so does anyone know what it is.

Don't think there's a problem with Rytex, but many ESS have a lot on the pedigree as they're very useful dogs. People need to go out of a line from time to time; hence the description.
Also, you sometimes prefer to get a bit more colour in the pups - Rytex dogs tend have a lot of white on them, which you can easily see in the field.
Jo and the Casblaidd Flatcoats
By Sandie
Date 31.07.05 08:52 UTC
Thank you, I was getting a bit worried as my springers are from the Rytex line, when I keep seeing Rytex free I was begining to think there may be a problem in this line.
Does Badgercourt mean you will get more colour.
By jackyjat
Date 31.07.05 09:31 UTC
Yes Badgercourt often means you get more colour. Rytex free or not is often a preference especially if you're wanting to breed and have lots of Rytex (or not) already. I know several Rytex springers who are happy and healthy and work well too.
I've got a Badgercourt springer and I would have another one tomorrow if I could but please don't tell my son that!
By Helen
Date 31.07.05 10:47 UTC
I have an ESS with a lot of Rytex in her. Fantastic worker, lovely temperament and does have a fair bit of colour on her which I think she got from the sire.
Helen
By Sandie
Date 31.07.05 11:14 UTC
We have 4 springers all a mixture but oddly enough the one with the most white is from a Badgercourt Line. I love Springers and enjoy working with them they are brilliant dogs, I would love another but my husband will leave if I do.
By Havoc
Date 01.08.05 12:59 UTC
The Rytex springers have a reputation for being mainly white. Much of this is down to the influence of FTCh Kenine Robb of Rytex a massively influential stud dogs and sire of far more field trial champions than any other springer. This dog seemed to predominantly throw mainly white offspring. I'd imagine that this was more by fluke than by any deliberate breeding strategy.
It seems to have now become ingrained amongst some spaniel men than white springers=rytex=sensitive springers.
Some people dont like white spaniels just becaused they prefer heavily marked ones. Some people dont like the Rytex influence & success. Some people dont like soft & sensitive springers. However, the bottom line is that in recent years these lines far exceeded the success of the heavily marked, non-Rytex, head-bangers in terms of trial wins.
IMO it is a good thing that people are maintaining bloodlines that are different to the fashionable ones for the genetic health of the breed. However, I certainly wouldnt turn my nose up at a predominantly white, Rytex-bred springer!
The Rytex lines didnt drop out of the sky, and a number of the supposed Rytex-free pedigrees contain common ancestors to the Rytex dogs.
My own springer has a predominantly Badgercourt sire (FTCh Parkbreck Ixora) and a dam with Clarburgh Art/Rytex Rod breeding. She is turning out to be a very smart working dog who should trial this season.
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