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If your dog has uneven teeth will it affect your chances? It's not all of them but just to in the middle of the top jaw and the bottom.
Warm regards Susan
By fifi
Date 21.07.05 20:39 UTC

It depends what breed you have how much of a difference it makes. You wouldnt show a dog with a less than perfect mouth in my breed as its definately not acceptable and you would very rarely win anything but I know plenty of friends in other breeds that show and have won well with dogs that have mouth faults and it doesnt seem to be a problem. Your best bet would be to ask the breeder of your dog if it is acceptable to show him/her.
By Blue
Date 22.07.05 21:35 UTC

What breed Susan?
She's a bullmastiff.
Warm regards Susan
By Blue
Date 25.07.05 21:27 UTC

Not so sure about BM but teeth are super important in westies.
I think they are in bullmastiffs aswell.
Warm regards Susan

As long is the bite is correct I think some judges would forgive slightly crooked teeth I have seen some very iffy mouths in otherwise nice dogs & it doesn't seem to have really affected them in the ring
Thats the thing though Moonmaiden she's undershot, it was 99% undershot as a pup, but it's quite noticeable now, they're supposed to have a really good stop at the end of their mussle, which she has, but with her only being six months and a half you dont know how bad it's going to get when she's mature because the lower mandible keeps growing long before the top mandible has stopped, so i'm not sure and two of the bottom teeth are crossing in the middle. You can't tell from the end of her mussle though it's not as bad as other dogs ive seen, in that i mean you can't tell without going in her mouth as a judge would.
warm regards Susan

I know bullmastiffs don't have the best of mouths I saw one that would have been a pet in any of my breeds win a CC & I could see without touching the dog that it's mouth was so bad, but he was a stunning dog otherwise !
It might be worth getting chatting to some of the other exhibitors to get an overall picture
Meanwhile do your learning with your bitch so that when you do get a really good show dog you will be on the ball showing him/her
By Blue
Date 28.07.05 11:04 UTC

Susan an undershot dog will always be a undershot dog. As puppies really you want them (if they have to have a scissor bite) with a nice scissor bite or a little over as the bottom grows a bit.
I can't remember if you bought the dog for showing or not but most decent breeders would never sell a dog with an undershot mouth if it is potentially for the show ring if it must have a scissor bite. Most wont breed from them either.
Hi Moonmaiden thanks for your info. Hi Blue i did buy her for showing and made it clear i wonted to show, the breeders said it wouldn't be a problem, as Moonmaiden suggested i am going to just use her for practice and while at the shows see which dogs or line i like and then go from there. Hopefully in a few years i'll be alot more experienced and know what i'm looking for, and Nina will be well trained hopefully so the new pup can learn off her. Thanks for your help.
Warm regards Susan
An undershot mouth is allowed in the bullmastiff, though a level bite is prefered, have to admit there are very few level bites around, most if not all bullies are undershot.
Also very few have good even teeth, so i suspect your dog will be in the majority...
Sharon
By Blue
Date 28.07.05 22:53 UTC

I was just about to ask that sharon. what is required for that particular breed but you have answered it.
So are most of them like that Sharon because i know it does say a level mouth preffered but an undershot jaw is permissable because i'm worrying about that quite alot do you think she'll be okay then to keep showing?
Warm regards Susan
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