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- By Star [in] Date 27.07.05 19:37 UTC
Can anyone tell me how to copy a dvd onto another dvd or a video. have a couple of laptops, dvd players etc but dont know what I need to do?
- By Natalie1212 Date 27.07.05 19:41 UTC
First of all you will need a DVD burner, this is not a CD burner, to copy to another DVD.

To copy to a video tape, I *think* you only need to have a scart cable to connect the two players, press record on the VCR and play on the DVD.

HTH :D
- By sam Date 28.07.05 10:29 UTC
and of course it will be illegal due to © law if its a pre-recorded dvd :(
- By catweazle [gb] Date 28.07.05 15:00 UTC
I don't think its illegal if you are just making a back up copy for yourself ;) its only illegal if you sell it
- By sam Date 28.07.05 15:12 UTC
IT IS ILLEGAL REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU ARE DOING IT FOR YOURSELF, YOUR OLD GRANNY OR AS A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE
- By Blue Date 28.07.05 15:17 UTC
LOL Sam I knew you would be here soon :-D    I can imagine it is a nightmare for you in your industry of trying to get the copyright law taken serious.
- By catweazle [gb] Date 29.07.05 09:04 UTC
No need to shout Sam :D
- By Blue Date 28.07.05 15:14 UTC
Back up copies of DVDs are illegal. The breach the copyright.

Designs and Patents Act of 1988  makes it illegal to make copies of CDs, DVDs or videos - even for personal use.
- By Zoe [gb] Date 28.07.05 16:41 UTC
If its illegal to do this why are burners for sale? :confused:
- By Natalie1212 Date 28.07.05 16:43 UTC
Exactly, I always thought it was legal to make back ups, and that is how they get around selling things like burners and re-writable disks??? :confused:
- By ice_queen Date 28.07.05 17:32 UTC
Same here, I thought it was fine for your own personal use if you owned the CD you copied it from.  It is illegal when you give or sell to a 3rd party. 

Maybe I am wrong.  In which case I own no copied CDs!

Star you will need relevent software and hardware to copy.  Same as what you have for CD burning just in DVD form!
- By Blue Date 28.07.05 23:05 UTC
Sorry Ice queen it is ilegal to make copies even if the sit on a dusty shelf, whether for back up or not.   Copyright is copyright .. NOBODY has a right to copy work with a copyright.. Hence the name ;-)

Why would someone need a back up for a DVD :-)  if it became faulty claim back from the store and get a replacement :-)     

I can honestly say there is not one copied DVD or anything copied in my house.
- By ice_queen Date 29.07.05 10:06 UTC
Thanks.  Now I know!
- By Anna [gb] Date 29.07.05 00:41 UTC
Yes the assistant at PC world told us the same thing that it was fine to copy cd's as long as you owned the original cd, so that you could have a copy in the car, but not to give to anybody else.
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 29.07.05 09:05 UTC
Yeah well, Assistants at PC World are *really* well up on copyright laws aren't they? :) :D
- By Blue Date 29.07.05 09:33 UTC
Exactly Melody.:-)

"ignorantia legis neminem excusat"
- By kayc [gb] Date 29.07.05 09:38 UTC
Thanks Blue, I have been using that excuse for years. What is the Latin for 'ignorance is bliss' lol :P
- By Blue Date 29.07.05 09:52 UTC
:-D :-D LOL Kay.

I remember my first year at Uni ,doing all the basic principals of Law, Mercantile, criminal, civil, family etc etc   I can remember at least once a week sitting with my jaw on the desk when I discovered something that I had previously believed turned out to be a lot of rubbish ;-)   I must have spent the first year saying

" Do you know" or " Did you know"  :-D :-D

PS how did the premate go..promising I hope :-)
- By Anna [gb] Date 29.07.05 23:53 UTC
Didn't exactly say they were just stating what we were told. :-(
- By Blue Date 28.07.05 22:59 UTC
Of course it is legal to make back ups of your own work, home videos etc that is what the producers pretend there items go..   it is however illegal to take others work and do it :-)

I think it is very plain and simple.
- By Natalie1212 Date 28.07.05 23:07 UTC

>I think it is very plain and simple.


That's a bit off isn't it? It may well be plain and simple to you because you know it. How condesending can you be?

Just for the record, my hubbie, who used to be a police man, says it is entirly legal to make back up copies for your self, from your own media. He also says that as with a lot of things, police scanners for example, the police/government/industries will swear blind that something is illegal, just because it benefits them.

So Blue, your right, it is very plain and simple! :D
- By Blue Date 28.07.05 23:28 UTC
Condesending I don't think so.. :-)  Just because you interpretated it like that doesn't mean I meant it like that. I am sure you were giving comments on another thread about how people just jump on others posts were you not?  Have you not just done the same :-)  If that wasn't a personal attack what is?    Who made you champdogs police ;-)

My comments were refering to the simple terminology of the word Copyright which does explain itself very well :-)  The right of the copy stays with the owner.  At the start of every DVD, Video  the copyright warning clearly says not to be copied under ANY circumstances. Can't say fairer than that can they.

Copyright rules are  not made by government, or policemen  it is the people who have made or produced the work that have the copyright whether a photo, dvd, movie and it is their investment that is protected not the governments interest.  They spend time, money &  effort in creating something , it takes time through sales to replace the investment.

For example Sam above is a photographer her living is possibly made from producing quality photographs, her living would be crumbled if everyone just copied her work without her having any protection .


Think about it from film producers, they spend millions and millions making films and they need to sales from Box office and dvds etc to pay for it and to reinvest on the next one.

You won't need to ask as you can tell I am not in agreement in copying peoples work really :-)
- By Zoe [gb] Date 29.07.05 08:09 UTC
I think it is very plain and simple.

I didnt think so..... Thats why I had to ask :(
- By Blue Date 29.07.05 09:08 UTC
and you were answered :-(   I wished some of you would stop nit picking posts wording.  Terrible to telling others not to do it then do it yourself.

I used a smiley in my post showing a freindly reply.  
- By Zoe [gb] Date 29.07.05 09:16 UTC
What is your problem? I wasnt nit picking thank you, I used a sad face because I didnt find it plain and simple!  Never once did I say I wasnt answered.
- By Blue Date 29.07.05 09:38 UTC
" what is your problem", " thank you"   Do you think that is a grown up way to talk or exchange posts on a fourm. :-( 

Reread my posts without seeing it as negative and you will see where I am coming from.  I explained the law on it in several posts before I said it is plain and simple. I was refering to the name "copyright" and once I had written/explained  the law on it that the understanding of it should be plain and simple.

I don't make a habit of personally attacking people :-)

I have more than clearly covered the copyright law so will leave this post ;-)
- By Zoe [gb] Date 29.07.05 09:52 UTC
Blue I dont need to reread you post.....Like I already said I put a sad face because I didnt find it simple! Why are you attacking me??? I have not done to you! Never did I take your post as being negative for goodness sakes, the sad face was simply because I didnt find it clear!  And how is asking what your problem is not grown up? :confused:

You have said you wish people would read post properly etc... you have just done exactly that!
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 29.07.05 12:13 UTC
Absolutely. Only the owner of the copyright (in whose name the work is registered) has the right to copy the material.
- By Natalie1212 Date 29.07.05 16:30 UTC

>I think it is very plain and simple.


This was the comment that started all of this, I found it to be very offensive and in the nicest way possible said so. Your reply to it:

>Who made you champdogs police


I also found offensive, which instead of picking your post to bits and start an argument, I replied a simple sentence which I thought would be the end of it, then Mel starts on me, NOT giving me advice but calling me condesending, if anyone else is reading this, even if you have to PM me, just tell me I am not going mad please? :D

As for me giving Mel a hard time, is it any suprise after how she has been speaking to me? And when did I persistently argue with you? You answered my post about the plain and simple thing, and I made a clear comment to show that as far as I was concerned it was finished, I did not in any way try to get involved in an argument. Re-read the thread if you don't accept this.

Lastly just becaue I am quite new here, doesn't mean that I can't read, I think most people on here would probably describe me as a nice person but I won't stand for anyone having a go at anyone, I will say what I think, and if I am still on the boards in 5 years time I will be the same then. I didn't realise that what you can do/say on here depends on how long you have been a member. I must have missed that rule.
- By Zoe [gb] Date 29.07.05 16:50 UTC
I think your a nice person Nat :p
- By Natalie1212 Date 29.07.05 16:53 UTC
:D Well I try to be!
- By justlou Date 29.07.05 17:04 UTC
Blue :-) Quote me if i'm wrong and i will appologise but Natalie didn't call you Deary...she called you Love :-)
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 29.07.05 18:45 UTC

> then Mel starts on me, NOT giving me advice but calling me condesending


Read my post:

>Natalie, I am really sorry if you are feeling persecuted. This really isn't the way of it. Blue tried to explain something to you and you appeared to take the hump.....then she tried to explain again


>As for *unspoken rules* ...there are none. There are rules , which everyone has to comply with ...everyone! Usually people add smilies to SHOW the reader that what was said should be taken lightly ..after all, the written word can often come across much harder than if you were watching the person saying the words


>Try taking the smilies as an indication of HOW the post should be taken and not as a 'get out of jail free' card 


I began the post by saying 'I am sorry you are feeling persecuted'. So then ...an apology AND some advice :)
- By Natalie1212 Date 29.07.05 18:48 UTC
I think you may find, that your first post directed at me was:

>Now *that's* condescending :(


Edited to say: Actually sorry it was a different face, but the words were the same.
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 29.07.05 18:53 UTC
Edited as JG has repeated exactly what Blue said to you earlier :)
- By Natalie1212 Date 29.07.05 19:01 UTC
Thought you were going Mel?

Please read my reply to JG.

As for admitting my post was condesending, I have never deneyed it! It was however meant to put a stop to it before we got to this point!

Oh and my last post was edited for the exact reason I said.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 29.07.05 18:48 UTC
Natalie, when Blue said "I think it is very plain and simple" she meant that the law was very plain and simple - as it is! If a person doesn't own the copyright of anything, they don't have the right to copy it.

And nobody called you condescending - Mel said what you wrote was condescending (calling Blue 'love', which yes, is indeed patronising), not that you were! ;) Every day the nicest of people say unfortunate things - it doesn't make them bad people!
:) (My usual signing-off smiley to denote that I'm genuinely perfectly cheerful, and not being snide!)
- By Natalie1212 Date 29.07.05 18:57 UTC
Well JG, she ONLY had to explain that. Instead if you read her post to me directly under mine, she did say she didn't mean it badly, but then went on to attack me, and after this I didn't feel apolegetic in way shape or form.

Now it has escalated into this, I suppose I should apoligise, and now I do, for taking the post wrongly, but I still stand with my previous post's, of that I did not pester her into an argument, and for what it is worth, I don't appreciate being made to look as if I have started an argument.

As I have already said what my hubbie has said on the subject, I am not going to argue the toss of the law, to be honest I am not even that bothered!

Thanks for trying to sort it out though JG, I think perhaps everyone has just got too involved, and lets face it, there are many more important things to worry about, than who said what, when, and where :D
- By digger [gb] Date 28.07.05 19:02 UTC
Burners can also be used to make copies of family films made using video recorders (digital and other wise.....)
- By Star [in] Date 28.07.05 19:06 UTC
anks anyway...probably wont bother now  lol
- By Minipeace [gb] Date 28.07.05 22:30 UTC
I see the latest Starwars film is doing the rounds. Very good it was too :)
- By Blue Date 28.07.05 23:09 UTC
Zoe why are hubbly bubblys for sale? Why are drugs for sale?  The burners are not made to breach copyright but to provide people a machine that can make home movies from Video to DVDs etc etc to record things.. all work which you personally own and make. Not others work :-)
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 29.07.05 06:20 UTC
Copyright Law:

In some countries, including Germany, consumers are permitted to make back-up copies of a purchased CD, for example. In the UK, however, no such "fair use" provision exists.


Taken from Here

HTH ?
- By Zoe [gb] Date 29.07.05 10:08 UTC
Guess I've broken the law a couple of times then :oops: :D
- By Zoe [gb] Date 29.07.05 10:09 UTC
How'd you do the shocked smailie??
- By jackyjat [gb] Date 29.07.05 12:23 UTC
I hate having original cd's in my car as I feel they could encourage theft so I always copy them onto discs for that very purpose and keep the originals in mint condition on the shelf!

Naughty, naughty Jacky!
- By ClaireyS Date 29.07.05 12:38 UTC
:eek: slap wrists for you ;)
- By clutha [gb] Date 29.07.05 12:45 UTC
im in copy heaven, meself!!

*looking for the grinning smiley*
- By Natalie1212 Date 29.07.05 18:41 UTC
We do exactly the same for the same reason Jackyjat :D

I think they had better throw away the key in my case, becasue there is no way I will stop! :P
- By Anna [gb] Date 30.07.05 00:04 UTC
Yes I do that too.  I would like to see them enforce the law anyway because millions of people in the UK copy CD's to CD's, CD's to tapes etc so I don't think it will ever happen, we would all be in jail :-)

What I do think is bad is when people are copying them and selling them for profit.  My daughter is always coming home from her dads with copies of new CD's and DVD's that someone has set up a little business selling them.
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