would you buy a pup if the parents were  half brother to half sister?they are good bloodlines

If the breeder is knowledgable, can give you a good reason for doing the mating, and is planning to keep a puppy for themselves, then certainly, yes.
If they have used the dog and bitch because they are convenient and have produced the litter to sell all the puppies, then no, I wouldn't.

Ditto on Val's post!

Why don't you join, Guest?  You're not really supposed to ask additional questions on the Visitor Board and if you think of other things you'd like to know or want to expand on then it's easy to register :)

Regards, Teri

Bit risky but my boy is half brother to half sister, and his g-grandparents are as well, and he's won a CC and has not had any major health problems - yet!!!

I dont see a problem with it if the stock is first class and the breeder was experienced and knew what they were aiming for in this kind of mating

Hi,
Yes!! I would if that is what I wanted. As long as it wasn't for breeding.

Regards
Denese

Now why wouldn't you want to breed from one assuming the litter was carefully planned then that is the intention of the breeder to breed on from one of them?  You would of course not go so close in the next gneration.

I would certainly include the pup in my breeding program IF it grew to its full potential, I understood why the mating had been done and I KNEW the dogs in the pedigree.

If it was a cavalier I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole in view of the health guidelines from the breed clubs & the cavalier veterinary experts that if there has to be inbreeding it should only be on one side of the pedigree if at all Doing such a close breeding now in cavaliers should not be done by breeders with the health of the breed at stake

That's the problem of course, mine is a Cav, so anything I use him on will have to be an outcross, and to be honest I am not planning on letting him be used until we know a bit more about SM. Obviously the problem was not so widely known when he was created or the breeder wouldn't have done it - though I'm glad she did, I love my boy!

Can no one see the possible link this has to the post further down "half brother to half sister" ? sounds to me like this person is planning to do the breeding, and doesn't sound that knowledgable, may be completely wrong on thogh, just my opinion.

Hi Tigerlily,

The Guest posted this thread after the one you refer to - if you look at the 3rd post on this thread you'll see he/she has already been advised to join rather than post additional topics as a visitor :)

Regards, Teri

Hi Teri, sorry missed that. I was just worried as it sounded like they are planning to breed rather than them buying a pup, that is how it came accross to me anyway and they don't seem to know enough to be able to breed that close to the line.

Sorry again Teri, not really with it today, probably safer I don't do any more posts :-)

Oh don't be daft - you've no need to apologise :)  I'm "not really with it" most of the time :P

Hopefully this is not a mating the Guest is planning - although the original post does give that impression - fingers crossed he/she is just doing the sensible thing and making enquiries about a litter they are aware of which has been thoroughly thought out by a responsible breeder.  Trouble is, unless they join we never really know :(

Cheers for now, Teri ;)

Cheers chick :-) Hope you are right about the mating, and as you said, I bet we will never know.

Seems they have bought a pupy bred this way to hopefully show as they have taken it to ringcraft, where it was admired.

Hi ,
Brainless wouldn't it be a little close to breed half sister and brother?
I persume they share the same dad. I supose inbreeding worries me
as I have heard stories of problems with the pups. I guess it could be trial
and error.
Regards
Denese

>I persume they share the same dad.

Or the same mum, of course.
:)

Not if the shred parents qualities were such that you felt you just had to try and conserve as much of that bloodlien as possible and make it more likely that the pups wouod take after them.

Of course this does have to go hand in ahdn with rigoorous checking of ancestors of the dog or bith being linebred/inbred on.  Not only should they ahve excellent yhealth and temperament but should also be particularly vigorous.  If a male then the breeder woudl be looing at other litters he produced and checkign with their breeders for the faults found in the not so good pups.

Inbreeding soes not put anything in that ishn't already there, but does concentrate the good and the bad in teh resulting offspring.  It does over time (inbreedign over repeated generations as happens with laboratory mice) also reduce vigour and fertility.

I have done a half brother to half sister mating both parents have the same dad but the mum has similar but not close lines.  They were gorgeous puppies and all full hearing.  The reason I did it was because both parents were of a type and I couldnt find another dog who was closer in type than him.