Here I go again another post (hope you don't get fed up). Last night was first night with puppy put him in crate at midnight after having a pee with door left open closed kitchen door he was great for 2 hours then he yelped for ages eventually i went down and gave in slept on sofa with him wrapped up on floor. Should i just let him cry tonight don't want to give in all the time also don't get sofa to myself as bailey insists on lying on your legs. I was thinking of leaving bailey in kitchen with him is this a good idea he's been brilliant with him and i am really proud as i was worried how he would react to him. Hopefully he won't bother the neighbours i might go round and ask if they hear him.

Have to say I tried and failed at leaving my pup in the kitchen last year. My dogs all sleep in our bedroom if they wish to so we ended up bringing him upstairs next to my bed in his crate after the second night.  That worked a treat and we never had a sound out of him.  Personally when I get another pup in later years I will do this from the start.

Hi,
Have you tryed leaving the radio on !!
Regards
Denese

Hi Bailey

I never left mine to cry even though I had lots of advice to do so. Having said this i'd never let him sleep with me either as I already have enough competition for the quilt!

I left Sox in the kitchen. He did the same as your pup, was fine for 2 hours then started. I always let him cry for 15 minutes (which seems like a lifetime when youre tired) and then went down, gave him a cuddle and wrapped him back up and just sat there until he fell asleep again. Sometimes, I did this a few times per night. After about  a week of this I woke one morning in a  panic cause I couldnt hear him and went down to find him sound asleep and in the same position as I had left him the night before!

I do agree that as far as possible you should leave them to cry as to do anything does make a rod for your back. Having said this I couldnt do it myself. Do what works for you but remember, if you allow him to get up with you and sleep somewhere else then you are both out of your normal sleeping area. If you get up and sit with him in his domain until he drops off again, you have at least won part of the battle and will eventually be able to creep back to bed yourself. As for leaving Bailey with him im not sure about this one as I only have the one myself.

Just a thought....with Sox one night I had had enough of getting up and called down the stairs 'thats enough' and he stopped. That was the start of him going through the night.

Sweet Dreams x

I always put my pups crate by my bed for the first week or so.  I think it gives them a bit of reassurance when they get worried.  I have never had a problem moving it out of the bedroom into the kitchen later.

Try covering the crate with a blanket too, just leave the front where the door is open.

The first night we got hours we put him in his crate and he cried all night - i know it;s hard but don't go down to him otherwise he will do it all the more. You just have to leave them there they will soon learn you won't come and get them. We were lucky Kaiser only cried for the first night, but we didn't go to see him at all througout the night - I have to say it was reall difficult not going to tem but it works !!!

However my friends puppy cried for about 4 days through the night and then stopped after she stopped going to him- the trick is to leave them to cry

Pups need security to start - put yourself in their place :)

My pups have all slept with me or I withthem, and then gradually over a few weeks have been moved downstairs. By then, they are confident and know the home and dont feel lonely. I'd never leave a pup to cry now - I feel it can lead to too much anxiety and worry for pup and owner!!

Also IME it's never been a case of making a rod for one's own back - just seems to create confidence if done right. Of course, all the usual training is also put into place during the day, for good manners etc :)

Lindsay
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Put him to bed about 11.30pm and he slept until 3.45am he cried for 15 mins then i went down let him out and he wanted to play so i took him back in but he wouldn't settle. Had to sleep rest of the night on sofa. Had a word with neighbours who said they didn't hear anything so tonight I might let him cry a little longer going to make his crate like a little cave. Thanks for all the help no doubt episode II will be coming up the saga continues............

hI you really should try not to give in to much to him although i did sleep on the sofa for two nights while mine was in the crate with the door shut he whined for a while then slowly went to sleep but try not to give in if possible especially if you dont want the dog in your bedroom dont start that from a yuong age otherwise they tend to want it all the time it takes time but gets better as i said try shutting the crate with him in during the day start with 3 mins then open in try feeding him in there and water in in too helped me out immencly then shut him in again later for 5 mins gradually increasing the time while you are pottering around the house ect and you will see an improvement im sure

Hello there,

Taking pups away from their littermates, mum and safe environment is pretty stressful for a pup (it would be for you too, if you didn't know what was happening). I would never let a pup cry during the night on its own and certainly not in the first week. I did this with my Great Dane and it created a whole bunch of insecurity problems, so never again.

With my new pup, I got her used to the crate little by little during the day where she could see me and hear me (only a few minutes at a time and with a stuffed kong inside to keep her busy). The first day, I slept downstairs in the sofa and she lied down on the floor beside the sofa. This way I could hear when she wanted to go to the toilet too. I did this for 2 days and then started to put her in her crate overnight with the door closed. The crate was beside the sofa and I slept on the sofa. She could see me, hear me and smell me but not get the comfort of sleeping with me and getting into unwanted habits. Since by then she was used to her new home and the crate, I did let her cry and ignored her. She quietened down after 5 minutes. By the second night, she settled in straight away. I did this for about a week and now she sleeps in her crate (still beside the sofa) overnight on her own without any crying. Later on, I will start to move the crate to the kitchen slowly, although at the moment I am happy for it to be in the lounge.

I am so pleased I did this, as it shows in how confident and well-balanced my little pup is. She has not had a nasty or frightening experience in her young life and as a result she deals with novel things and people really well and confidently. She is a very sound puppy and I am pleased I did nothing to knock her confidence back.

Letting dogs sleep in your bedroom is very much a personal choice, some people like it some don't. I personally don't, as it is the one room in the house where it is animal-free and hair-free. With some dogs it will create a very strong bond with the owner and this may cause separation anxiety problems in future. With other dogs, this may get them 'too big for their boots' and start guarding the bed and the owner. However, this is only a minority of dogs and it very much depends on the temperament of the dog and the owners' lifestyle. My advice would be to get into the right habits straight away, but be very gentle with your pup and how you introduce them. The biggest mistake you can make is to rush things (this applies to training too!) :-)

All the best,
Patty

Last night he cried for a while but knew i was still around eventually Bailey the older dog went into kitchen and slept with him. I was really worried but everything was fine. I heard him cry for about 5 mins then all was quiet that was him until 7.45am when i jumped up all worried but he was fine and only 1 wee on paper. He has learnt that bit fast when he goes on paper or outside he gets a treat he sits waiting for it after I have praised him. Thanks again.