Im very angry and upset by the so called caring RSPCA.
Yet another reason to to add to the bad feeling against them.
A missing Lhasa Aspo named Aspro reported missing to them. They found the dog which had been involved in a RTA. The day after the dog was handed to RSPCA owners phoned yet again to be told no such dog there. The dog needed treatment but because he shown signs of agression he was PTS.
Poor little Aspro had a loving family desperately wanting him back. Surely he would have been confused and upset to be lost, let alone in pain suffering broken bones.
This poor dog was 12 years old.
The RSPCA didnt realise it was the same dog had they had him registered as a Shih Tzu. What a load of crap. They obviously didnt do their job right. This poor dog died at their so called caring hands. His owners must be distraught.
What more can I say. This should never have happened.
Please if you truly care for animals dont donate to them choose another charity who realy put the care of animals before proffit.

The family must be devastated... I cant even think about it, poor little Aspro.

I used to donate £10 a month to the rspca but I stopped after they refused to attend to a rottie in the centre of Manchester that looked like it had been drugged or stunned.  Now I donate £20 a month to Manchester dogs home :-) 

How long did they have this dog before PTS? as an RTA, one assumes it was a stray??
In which case, the RSPCA centre should have reported it to the Environmental Health Department, Dog Warden Section, of the relevant local authority. From there, it would be picked up by the Dog Warden, and delivered to the kennels used by the council for strays.
These kennels would either be:
a) a council owned property, called a "pound".
b) a contracted private boarding kennels
c) a contracted private rescue centre kennels

Does this particular branch of the RSPCA have the local L.A. kennel contract??
The national RSPCA wouldnt arrange this, only on a branch to L.A. basis.
Alternatively, a dog warden has the authority to place a council responsible stray with a kennel that isnt the regular contract. In this case, the kennel would be given a stray number.

The key to all this is: a dog is not legally owned by the council or any of its agents until after 7 *clear days* after its registered as a stray. It is still legally owned by someone else whom is given this 7 days grace to reclaim their dog. Thereafter, council can PTS or rehome (this includes handing over legal ownership to a rescue, espesh if its the same one that has a kenneling contract).
The RSPCA should know all this. If they acted within the 7 days or not as the registered stray keeper for this dog, then you have your ammunition. If this is so, and it was me, I would use it.
Aside form the obvious internal mistakes regarding local lost and found record keeping and communications.
*And* a dog business not being able to tell the difference between a Shih-tzu and a Lhaso Apso! 

How sad :-(

HI

What a sad, sad, story.  Those poor people must be absolutely devastated.  I think this just brings home the important of micro-chipping or some other means of identification.  This wouldn't have happened if that had been the case.  Well, I say wouldn't but of course I mean "shouldn't" - you can never tell! 

The SSPCA, like the RSPCA, have a very bad reputation in Scotland.  I live next door to a guy who volunteers for them and works really hard.  Every Sunday without fail he is up there cleaning out kennels etc., etc.,  Anyway, they rehomed a springer spaniel to one of their staff who then left.  I met the girl out with her dog and it wasn't an ESS it was a working cocker!!  I agree that these people should know the difference.  Just because it was black and white doesn't make it a springer.  Also, there was a dog in their care that used to bark quite aggressively when in its kennel and was putting people off but outside it was the sweetest thing.  It was going to be PTS because of this.  I suggested that perhaps it would be a good idea to take her to reception so that people could see how sweet she really was.  Can't do that was the reply because all the staff dogs are kept there.  I'm sorry but first and foremost the care of those animals at the centre should be their priority.  STaff dogs will no doubt get exercise, attention etc., etc., but the dogs at the SSPCA were not even being walked.  They spent all day 24/7 in their kennel because staff "didn't have the time" to walk them.  They had students in doing an assignment and, for a little while, the dogs were being exercised.  Kennels is stressful enough for dogs but no exercise into the bargain.  It makes my blood boil!!!

Annie

Weve phoned the rspca a couple of times, once was because there was a baby duck in the river at the bottom of our garden that was tangled up in some sort of fishing wire, they never came and a group of local people managed to get the duck theirself and free it. Another time the house opposite us had a large bird trapped inside, the owner was away at the time so we called them, they never came and luckily enough when we managed to get hold of their next door neighbour, they had a key to the house and had to go in and get the bird out theirself, must of got in through the chimney! Anyway apparantly there is only 1 rspca person for the whole of Lincolnshire!

The RSPCA had the dog in care from 12th June he was PTS on the 20th. Seems like they couldnt wait for his time to be up.

Has anyone here ever watched Animal Precinct on Animal Planet?? Think its based in NYC. They really care about animals and they also have the power of police to arrest people for animal cruelty etc. I know this is going off the subject a bit, but i dont think we have this over here in the UK??

Tell them there's a film crew with you and they'll be there like a shot!!!

lol yeah!

Blues mum. I watch that all the time. No we dont have anything like that in the UK, think its time we should.

Hi sharon, me too! and i totally agree, id take great pleasure in putting people like that in prison! although the sentances they get arnt as long as they should be!
I watch quite a few programmes on there actually :)

Sibernut you are right about that!!! I rescued a collie 3 years ago, i didn't want him, I took him cos the owner offered him to me and he was in such a poor state I couldn't leave him there. I found out 18 months later that the RSPCA had been called 7 times, came out once and left the dog there. The neighbours gave witness statements that he was beating the dog in full view of them in his garden and still they did nothing. He only had half his fur due to a severe flea allergy and he had eaten skin off his tail leaving an open sore that went untreated. He was covered in scabs and oozing sores again untreated and his claws were so long they went into his pads. The inspector accused the neighbours of harrassment. They thought when the dog disappeared that he had been killed and dumped, they only realised that I had him when they heard me telling people at a companion dog show where I had got him from and what a state he was in, they didn't recognise him which was the best compliment I could have had. They are a waste of time. I found a stray dog here and called them as there is no dog warden service after 5pm. They said "we don't take in strays" when I asked them what I should do with it they told me to put it back on the street. I live on a main road..... Luckily when I was out walking my dogs later that night a man stopped me and asked if I had seen this particular dog and he was reunited with his owner. By far the most unbelievable incident was  when someone in the next village found a horse and tied it to a lampost with a bucket of water while he called the RSPCA and the police. Later that day the owners came looking and reclaimed their horse, he is still waiting for the RSPCA and police to arrive....that was 3 years ago.

Thats really bad!

Hi Sharon...what can i say :-(

Whu do they get away with it. Poeple must be so blind to give money to them.

thats the point, they arent so much anymore. they are in financial trouble. they have shut down lots local RSPCA phone services and recruited one national call centre, making it harder to get hold of an inspector. think they lost a bit on stock exchange to, if memory serves.
last year when they had choose of directors between a guy whom has been on the committee for years, a financial expert, or a former Liberal Democrat candidate for mayor of London, Jackie Ballard.
the committe chose them. wasnt popular decsion. lost members.
Also,the Association Of Dogs And Cats Homes (ADCH) was formed over 10 years ago by Battersea and Dogs Trust (NCDL). this is now a big organisation with all the big and medium sized cat and rescue centres on board, plus Kennel Club.
they have equal billing with RSPCA when it comes to advising government now, so much that the RSPCA also joined.

I went to pick up a lab from the stray kennels a while ago and there was a Lasa in there huddled up in a ball I asked about him and the kennel girl said he was aggressive and that he was going to be put to sleep :( I asked could I make some calls and within a short time lasa rescue  via Dog Pages was sending someone for the dog,who was so matted up and scared he was  suffering from fear aggression he very soon was put right by the rescue ended up being a female  when coat was clipped  ;) a happy ending, but  could easily have been different.
Small dogs feel intimidated when out of their own environment and will growl my Maltese Bobby died last year after spending all his whole  life with us and thinking he was a labrador as he lived with them all his life he was lovely but would grumble if there was someone he didnt like.
Peopel should know these things if they are dealing with dogs,that poor dogs what an ending to his life :(

Hi mattie, was this an RSPCA kennels? if not, was it another rescue organisation kennels ... stray kennels type C) my post above
If not, then its type a) or b): private boarding kennels or direct owned council pound.
In which case types have very little interest in welfare, as such. Its just usually a job, and if they do rehome the dogs, its just from a 'pet shop' style business point of view.
They arent rescue centres, and dont have that philosophy and purpose, unfortunately.
So wouldnt care about employing 'dog (psychology) savvy' people, as long as they can just clean.

It was stray kennels used by warden and RSPCA :(

I've never had contact with the RSPCA, but my friend called them numerous times about someone she knew who had gone senile and was no longer taking care of her dogs, with no effect. They do seem pretty useless!

That is sooo shocking!  It's not the type of thing we see on the shiny television programmes is it?  I really do admire people who work for rescue kennels and the like that take time out to find out more about dog psychology.  I'm afraid it seems to me though that most don't.  At least this little dog had a happy ending!

Best wishes
Annie

You are so right they would not show the RSPCA neglecting a dog on TV would they?  Bad publicity and would not increase the coffers of the RSPCA.  Yet to leave a 12 year old dog suffering and traumatized with broken bones after a RTA is surely causing uneccessary suffering.  Is this not what the RSPCA is supposed to prevent 'uneccessary suffering.'  I think someone should be asking the RSPCA for some answers as to why this was allowed to happen?  It seems to me that maybe they did not want the cost involved of operating on a 12 year old dog or it may have been that they felt that the dog would not suvive the operatation, if it was the latter then what effort did they make in trying to contact the owners, who had obviously reported the dog missing. It seems to me that the RSPCA have made a massive blunder and should be held accountable for their actions they were certainly in the wrong and made a grave mistake in putting the dog to sleep.
What a sad end to a poor little dog who only wanted a cuddle from its family, they must have been so distraught.      

Hi Pat

I have all my dogs microchipped so that "if" anything did ever happen at least they would be able to contact me.  I suppose 12 years ago micro-chipping wasn't as popular as it is now and the owners probably didn't think that their little dog would ever run away.  I didn't realise that the dog had been lying with broken bones for 7 days.  That is absolutely appalling!!!!  I think perhaps there could be cause for a case against RSPCA even just for that!!!  Poor owners.  Please let this be a lesson to all us dog lovers.  Have your beloved pets microchipped!!!!!

Best wishes
Annie

Microchipping does not mean your dog will get returned

Look at the dog that was found dead & not scanned because it was dead & the body was treated like any other road rubbish & "processed". Apparently dead animals are not scanned for a chip !

Then of course if the chip has moved & isn't found it is totally useless

I agree with what you are saying MM.  My friend's dog went missing who was microchipped.  He wasn't scanned but my friend did get him back by phoning around.  You can't say for sure the dog will be scanned but it does help.  Now we only have to educate the authorities on how to scan dogs!!!!! I think that may be a lost cause though!!!

Kind wishes
Annie

I agree i have heard so many nightmare stories about the rspca and i feel so sorry for the animals in there care and the people put in the position of helplessness in the face of incompitence.  I also used to donate 10 pounds a month to the rspca but after i got wise to them i now donate to the pdsa as they are far better by half and always willing to help.  If i was the owner of the dog who had been put to sleep i'm afraid i would be looking for blood by now especially as the dog was obviously a long term member of the family.  God the poor thing must have been so scared and recieved no sympathy or tenderness in death, and after the family had rung all very sad that is what would seriously rile me.

A terrible situation that unfortunately will no doubt happen again....

Anne

No the dog was not left lying with broken bones. He was was treated but PTS later after staff said he was too aggressive. The point being made is IF they looked into things they would have reunited this poor dog.