Hi everyone, i found this really irritating, last Wednesday at ringcraft, there's this man who brings his boxer and it doesn't think twice about attacking anything in it's path, well i was sitting on the seats around the floor at the table with chairs in front of Nina she was just lying there minding her own business, while the obedience training was on, when this boxer came from know where and bit her on the face, i was quite upset at this but Nina wasn't hurt or phased, and she would never dream of hurting another dog she's quite the opposite and would run the other way.  It really annoys me that he brings it each week and it goes for everyones dogs even though the dogs aren't doing anything.  Shouldn't it be wearing a mussle?  

any views apprieciated.

Warm regards Susan

Has noone every spoke to him about his dogs behaviour?  Does he just ignore its attacks?

Yes he didn't even apologise.

Warm regards Susan

I think the person in charge of the class needs to have a word

Me to and i'm going to suggest it this week.

Warm regards Susan

I think you need to have a word with the trainer, this is clearly unacceptable and could damage a puppy at such a vulnerable time, they need positive experiences at this age.

Hi Susan...there are some iresponable owners out there :-( i'm pleased to hear that Nina is o.k :-) i'd just have a word when you go to the next class :-) then surely they can have a word with this man

Boxers are notorious for their over zelous behaviour!! It looks like it's a true statement that owners reflect thier dogs in this case!! I would speak to the principal trainer descreetly before your next class and vent your frustration ,after all the majority of owners ands dogs are there for controling that very issue.  You are paying for the priviledge of your dog being attacked unprovoked after all!! See what the response is from the principal trainer, they should be more than experienced at dealing with situations like this. If nothing is resolved, I would firstly vent my frustration calmly but firmly with the owner in question, then the principal trainer, if all else fails, would look at moving to another training school. I have a similar problem with a boxer pup of 18 weeks old, my dog is a small shih tzu puppy of 14weeks old and is contsantly attacked by her. It seems to be that case with the boxers. We are also booked into the same training class and I am dreading it coz his owner is a good friend of mine who sees no problem in her beaviour towards my dog stating shes just being frendly!! Good luck I hope things work out. Tamsxx

I think the issue here isn't about the biting dog, more the owners lack of apology. Anyone who takes their dog to a place where there are large numbers of dogs all needing socialising is running a risk of it getting bitten at some stage. The chances of it never happening are very slim. Dogs are dogs, they do bite. Maybe he is there because of this problem and maybe, just maybe, he didn't say anything because he was embarrassed. Let's face it, men aren't the best at facing up to having a problem they can't fix are they? ;-)

I have been going to obedience and agility clubs for years and there is always at least one dog who will happily eat one of the others. Why was this boxer able to get to Nina? It should be on lead unless under the trainers instruction of which case s/he would have noticed so I am assuming it wasn't.

I agree with the others. Speak privately with the trainer telling her you are concerned but please don't try to get this man and his boxer thrown out. In the long term it wont help because without proper socialisation the dog will get worse and you may meet him in the park one day! Going to another training school is unlikely to help because no doubt there will be another problem dog there. 

Not all Boxers are like this :(
It really gets my goat when people 'bash' the breed (of what ever breed is involved)
Yes some can be boisterous but on the whole most are fine.

My youngest Boxer 18 months loves playing with all breeds, only problem is she tends to bash
which ever dog on the head with her paws, which isn't much fun for smaller breeds.
So I try not to encourage the behaviour..I have to be quick on my toes and watch to see when
those paws could be used :D

My middle Boxer is fine with other dogs, but if they fire up on her she won't ignore the growling or
behaviour and tell them in no uncertain terms she won't be a pushover....
She's been temperament tested and is graded excellent.

My oldest Boxer can be a pain, but as a young pup she was attacked when out on a walk.
She is a very dominant bitch and does not like any dogs that eyeball her etc.
I am aware of her 'issues' and don't allow any problems to occur through lack of attention or concentration
on my behalf.

So inconclusion not all Boxers are OTT or aggressive.
The trainer of the class is in the wrong by not being aware of any potential 'problem' dogs
and making sure that there aren't any problems or attacks on other dogs.
Also the owner of the Boxer should also have had the decency to apologise too.
Again here I reiterate not all Boxer owners are overzealous in their behaviour, some of us have manners and use them!

Boxacrazy, I agree with you totally. I know several boxer owners whose dogs are really good natured but have been attacked many times and now are labelled as aggressive because they eventually retaliated. My adult dogs will bark at dogs that pull on the lead as they don't like the noisy breathing. They have been known to bark at bulldogs and also boxers that breathe this way but thankfully the owners have been very understanding and I have managed to introduce them properly once they have stopped being silly! My pup is 5 months old and luckily thinks that boxers are just as lovely as any other dog. I get so fed up with people labelling  breeds in this way. I get told that BC's are snappy which isn't true, maybe some of them are a little sharp but not all of them! The biggest problem with boxers seems to be over enthusiasm and lack of understanding from other dogs owners. I have a friend with a collie cross rescue. when he first started training him (obedience and agility) as soon as he was off lead he would charge up to other dogs and get in their face. Not surprisingly he got into a few fights this way and one trainer said that he seemed to know which dogs to "pick on". The thing was that he just wanted to play and didn't know how to ask, he just charged up and got in their faces which is just rude. He was labelled as aggressive which in fact he wasn't, he just had no social skills which could in fact be the problem with this boxer. Someone needs to watch this dog and assess whether it is aggressive or whether it simply doesnt know what it is supposed to do.

Can I just say "here here" well said. Boxers are, as a whole very friendly and yes can be boisterous and like any other breed, can have not so clever owners.  There's no need to slate any breed. 

In my opinion that's bang out of order.  I had the same trouble with my dog snapping at others at training - the other dogs didn't seem to bother but of course the owners weren't amused.  That was on the first day and I was mortified.  For the rest of the course he was muzzled and it was my idea, I didn't wait for the trainer to suggest it. 

The boxer should be muzzled, the dog will be perfectly able to complete the training course and other dogs and their owners won't feel intimidated. Can't you politely suggest that this guy muzzles his dog to the trainer.  After all you've all paid good money for the classes.

CG

Who was slating Boxers? It was the owner we were critizing, not the dog.

well said colliesrus

To be honest it's not all boxers as we go to a boxer club thats the only dog what is like that, his owner can't control him, i sit there watching them and as the dog approaches you can see it getting ready to attack but the owner doesn't realise and it's done it again.  Some people just dont have a clue and can't read body language.  Most of the boxers there are great and especially when they see another boxer they actually look like they're in a ring boxing playing though.  So it's the owner whats at fault not the dog, he just can't control it because he doesn't have the experience.  thank god he weren't there this week.

Warm regards Susan