Thanks for the nice advice some of you gave me with regards to my pup excessive biting i spoke to a trainer last night and booked classes for two weeks time but while on the phone she told me to put her behind the gate not to tell her no or no bite ect just pick her up and put her there in a nice manner after 3 min let her and and keep doing it everytime it starts.Ok she has spent more time in the kitchen but hey i think i see progress  at last she isnt biting all the time which is great and the kids can at least get a stroke every now and then :)The only problem is when shes behind the gate she either wees or poo's in the kitchen as she is out there so often so its put my training to go outside back a bit hopefully she will start to go out again she will tend to go to the door to go a poo but will wee anywhere any ideas ? Also has any1 got any ideas on how to get her to let me know she wants to go out as im leaving the back door open which is situated in my living room and the weathers changed its a bit nippy :)

Trackie,

It is really good that you have finally made some progress, but by starting your post with the sentence you did, I think you may find that many of the most experienced people on here (i.e. the ones with the best advice) may just have washed their hands of you. I know that if I had the answer to give you, but you had constantly thrown all of the advice back at me, I wouldn't carry on trying to help you.

Sorry just my opinion.

(BTW, I don't have an answer to give you, not because I don't want to, I just don't know)

Fair enough i never threw any advice back at anyone just needed help i am a constant worrier and im sure many of you were when you got your first dog not everyone knows everything and if they washed their hands off me then so be it shows how pathetic some people are im afraid to say i thought this site was here for help and advice but i was informed by members that i wasnt allowed to post more than one or two threads when surely thats my decision isnt it there were a few people who stuck up for me so that goes to show that some members were out of order :(

*sighs*

>i was informed by members that i wasnt allowed to post more than one or two threads

No, nobody said that. Multiple postings on the same topic are forbidden (re-read the terms of Service!). People are happy to reply to a cry for help, but when the advice is ignored and the cry for help continually repeated, people aren't going to feel that their time and effort is wasted.

Nothing was ignored as i stated im am a worrier and just wanted everything to be right for my dog.I took everything people gave me on board and will keep it all in mind but i am not arguing with anybody as thats not why i joined this site i joined because a friend of mine told me it was a very good place to get help

Trackie, I haven't got my puppy yet, and I am sure that when he does eventually arrive, I will be on here day and night asking questions, but I wont be posting replies to the same effect as you did.

I am sure that when anyone get's their first puppy, they will be a constant worrier, this doesn't give you the right to be rude, or to ask questions and then not take any notice of the answers because you don't like them. The people that were trying to help you, have more knowledge about dogs/trainig/feeding/medical issues than what you or me know. I just don't like to see them being made to feel bad.

I have no intention of this turning into an argument, and I will not be reading the rest of this post, I only wanted to point out the fact that the very people you now want to help you, ar the same ones that you offended.

I haven't offended anyone and if i did i did apologise to them through private messages i took advice but new to this site i didnt know some of the facts i now know and apologise to you if it seemed i threw your help back at you that was not my intention hopefully you will take my apology even though you dont want to read this post but i mean it sincerly :)

Trackie29 it seems people have took offence although i don't undrestand why when all you did was explain you had tried their soloutins and they didnt seem to work.I am also a new user and feel that maybe certain members stick together upset one and you upset a few more no offence meant:p But i do feel that a few people on here do like an argument at times all this talk with chill dust ect is a bit mind boggling maybe you have to be in with certain people to get a nice reply as it seems they have it in for you :(

I think you could be right starlight i have cried a few tears after asking for advice on here as a few people seem to give an abrupt response maybe if it upsets me too much more with some of the niggling that i am getting in response to my posts i should remove my details from this site and find a different forum elsewhere its a shame though thought i may find some new dog owners to confide in Coleystaff and a few others have been really helpful in private messages so maybe i will ask them if i need any more advice :(

Starlight, trackie was advised that any possible solution will take time to work, even if everyone in the family is 100% consistent. When she said that wasn't possible, she was told to give each method at least two weeks before complaining that it didn't work. Now we're waiting for the first two weeks to be up, to find out which method she's been using and what results she's had ...

I have read the posts and can't see where Trackie29 actually said they wasnt possible and no-one stated to give methods at least two weeks before results were seen i think you people are 100% dog owners and that they are the be all and end all which is fair enough but some of us have a life with children ect and have other things to do too so we havent all got 24/7 to watch and do certain things so it all runs smoothly

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>some of us have a life with children ect

I'll tell my husband and son they don't exist then, shall I? ;) :D

>we havent all got 24/7 to watch and do certain things so it all runs smoothly

Which is why I won't be getting another puppy for several years - I'm too busy having a life at the moment!
:)

What do oyu mean the way i started the sentence some of you did give good advice meaning some of you not all users wasn't meaning it in a sarcastic way obviously you took it that way though apologise if it sounded naff :P

Trackie, the only way I know to housetrain a puppy is to give it 100% of my attention when it's awake. Any mistakes are then down to my own lack of concentration - my fault. Housework etc is done when the pup is having a nap.

It's much more difficult when you add children to the equation; this is where husbands/partners have to pull their weight and do a lot more around the house! Someone must be watching the pup - not the TV!
:)

Hi there Trackie,
Oh dear me....Ive never come across bickering like this on this dog chat site before!
I am pleased that you feel your dog is making progress....we had (and are still frequently having) biting issues with our 7 month old puppy.....weve tried puppy class, picking her up and placing her in another room for a short time and even a muzzle (which I hate using!)..and not alot has changed so Im pleased that theres somone whos now having less problems with their dog that has a similar problem to ours.
As for the weeing, etc when your dogs in 'time out'....doesnt your dog give signs when he needs to go..alot of dogs sniff in circles or around the room they re in, or if hes just eaten, he ll prob need to go about half an hour afterwards. Dont know if you know this already but just wanted to give a bit of positivity to your 'Good News' post! 

HI Trackie29

I am so pleased that you are now making progress with your puppy and are feeling a lot more confident about things.  Regarding your questions about asking to go out - well that is something that just takes time.  I had a problem with my Bracco until she was 11 months old and had to have eyes in the back of my head.  Look for circling and pacing that should give you an indication.  At this early age she should still be going out every 30 minutes so you could keep your door shut in the meantime!  The peeing and pooing in the kitchen could be a reaction to being shut in there so I wouldn't worry too much about that.  She is still a very small baby and don't expect too much too soon. 

If I remember rightly I gave you advice about putting her out the room when I posted a reply to you before!!!!  I can appreciate the fact that you worry and having a puppy is no easy thing.  Some people just panic more than others!!!  I am so glad that things are starting to turn around and this trainer seems to be very good.  As you will be paying for her/his advice I'm sure they won't complain when you ask questions (no matter how many!!!).

Good luck
Annie

Hi Trackie29

I have a 15 week old puppy so I can symathise with a lot of your problems!! I have been focusing very much on the housetraining and have been leaving doors open where possible to allow the pup to come and go freely so asking to go out hadn't really been an issue. Then this morning, we had just come in from our walk and she ran straight to the back door and pawed at it a couple of times. She hasn't been taught this, she just did it herself. I praised her loads as I was opening it for her and I'm hoping this is the first sign that she *KNOWS* to go outside and how to ask. Stick with it...you'll get there. It takes a lot of patience, consistency and, of course, kitchen roll :D .