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Topic Dog Boards / Visitors Questions / over shot mouths
- By Guest [gb] Date 01.07.05 22:14 UTC
Hi
I have just bought a pup, that the correct bite is scissor but this put is overshot! The breeder has made me aware of this, the pup has no problem eating but has warned me about the vets apoint or view.
what should i do, not take the pup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Emma
- By Isabel Date 01.07.05 22:19 UTC
I don't think the vets point of view will be any different to anyone elses, a mouth fault is regrettable, obviously something a breeder would avoid whenever possible, no use in the show ring or for breeding but if no problems eating a perfectly acceptable pet.  You certainly can't avoid vets for the rest of your pups life! :)
- By Blue Date 01.07.05 23:16 UTC
How badly is it overshot, what age and what breed?

It varies from breed to breed but a lot of overshot mouths come right as the bottom jaw grows. It depends how overshot it is. Are we talking a few mms or a big gap?
- By susantwenty? [gb] Date 02.07.05 00:34 UTC
Blue's right because the bottom jaw isn't attached to the mandable so you might be better joining and in that way you can get all the answers to your questions.

#Warm regards Susan
- By JenP Date 02.07.05 07:39 UTC
I agree with Blue - my vet told me my pup was fine apart from a slightly overshot jaw.  As he grew it came right and he now has a perfect scissor bite.
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 02.07.05 09:27 UTC
I also agree with Blue, they can change so much over the first few months.  If you don't want it for showing or breeding and it isn't severe then I'd go for it.  It could end up perfect anyway dependant upon how overshot it is.
- By sharonb [gb] Date 02.07.05 10:52 UTC
The breeder I know and take my dogs to etc as just had a pup with this jaw problem. He said he will not sell the but he is giving it away.
- By stanley Date 02.07.05 14:41 UTC
It all depends on what you want your pup for, if its just a pet then the overshot mouth shouldnt be a bother so long as it doesnt interfear with breathing/eating/drinking ect.
My viz is quite undershot & i bought her at a reduced rate because of this "fault" it doesnt stop her from working & to be honest i am glad that she is undershot as if she wasnt i know that the breeder would have kept her & we would have missed out on having one of the best dogs i've ever had :D it hasnt stopped her from giving us as much love back as we give her :D
I have seen some over shot mouths at a young age come right by the time they have matured & its normaly the overshot ones that tend to come right ( not saying all will ! )
If your gut instinct says no then dont take the pup, after all you want to bond with it & sometimes a niggle at the back of your mind like this can stop you from bonding and it would be worse if it didnt come right & you regretted your choice & as such then didnt like the pup.  You could always ask your vets advise & see what they say.
- By Dawn B [in] Date 02.07.05 18:29 UTC
Just to clarify (as its sometimes confusing) the pup is OVERshot.  Meaning the bottom jaw is SHORTER than the top by some margin?  Not getting confused with UNDERshot, where the bottom jaw is longer than the top jaw?  Undershot jaws rarely get better only worse, overshot jaws often right themselves.
Dawn.
- By spettadog [gb] Date 02.07.05 19:28 UTC
When I bought my puppy her jaw was quite badly overshot.  I paid half the normal price.  I think it all depends on whether the jaw moves before the adult teeth come in.  My dog's lower teeth have come in behind the upper teeth and therefore her jaw will never get better without the intervention of surgery.  She is perfectly healthy and does all the things a puppy should do like chewing slippers, mobile phones etc., so her jaw has never affected her in any way.  I wouldn't expect to pay full price for a puppy with a jaw problem as the papers will probably come endorsed which means that you cannot breed from her without the breeders permission or the dogs will not be KC registered.  I plan to work my dog so an overshot jaw is no problem to me.  I would imagine that a vet would not intervene with surgery unless it was affecting the dog's health in some way.  Dogs, like humans, can't all be perfect.  I love my dog just the same, overshot jaw or not.  I hope this helps you.

Kind regards
Annie
- By scratchy [gb] Date 02.07.05 19:50 UTC
i bought a pup with an overbite, the breeder made me fully aware of this and i was happy to take him as i wanted a working pet and not a show dog.  as it turned out he is a fantastic working dog and even if his bite had been correct he grew too oversize for showing!  his gap between the two jaws was noticeable at 8 weeks although not huge about the size of a little finger tip.  it did not improve as he grew and he still has a noticeable gap between his jaws.  one of his lower canines ending up growing up into the roof of his mouth causing quite a large ulcer, as a result he had to have his canine reduced in size and a procedure similar root canal carried out.  this was the better option than trying to remove a well rooted healthy canine as they are difficult to remove. 
i asked many people about this and was advised that the gap has to be very small, no bigger than the head of a match stick to have a chance of coming right, my pups was bigger and did not come right.  he was almost 2 before he had problems and had to have the surgery but has had no further problems.
the gap if small may come right but just bear in mind that your pup may need some sort of surgery as even a small overbite in my dog caused problems.  hopefully you breeder has provided you with insurance, continue this just in case and plead ignorance if questioned, a decent compant should cover any work needed as it is not routine treatment! i claimed for my dogs work and they never questioned it :-)
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