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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / excessive biting
- By starlight [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:03 UTC
Please help me if you can my baby is 10wks old and he seems to be biting us all the time we can rarely pet him as as soon as we do he will try to bite us.We have stuck to NO! then turning our backs to ignore him but when we turn our backs he lunges at our feet causing great pain we have been doing this consistantly for three weeks but have seen no change please can you advise
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:18 UTC
What I do with mine when they're at this stage (and doesn't it hurt?!) is to say "NO! Gently" firmly and remove their mouths from the portion they've attached themselves to. I generally have something near to hand that I can offer a chewy game with instead, because I know that learning gentleness is a vital part of growing up, and it's also vital that a pup has something to chew to develop properly.

People may suggest that starting a chewy/tuggy game when the pup has a go at you is rewarding the pup for doing it, and he'll do it more to start a game ... I've never found this to be the case.
:)
- By starlight [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:22 UTC
Thanks we do that too but no response he would rather bite us. Its just not fair that we cant even stroke him or show any affection as all he does is bite HARD i know its a normal thing but never known a pup to be this bad he barks if we tell him no and growls too bit scarey i think lol
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:27 UTC
Make sure that whenever you stroke him you have something he can chew on instead of you! ;) As Dill says, stopping them mouthing altogether can be counter-productive - they need to learn to do it gently.
:)
- By starlight [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:31 UTC
I have been informed that by 13 weeks this bite thing should have been dealt with its frightening to think he is 10 nearly 11 weeks old and see no change surely he should be listening to us by now ? he has so many chew things i peirce my feet on them all over the family room floor is he interested NO try to distract the biting with them 2 seconds then he back to biting again its very distressing and frustrating when all we want to do is love him we were very prepared for this we have been there before with my old dog but never this bad :)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:37 UTC
First of all, forget about the 'it should be finished by 13 weeks' stuff. Some take a lot longer than that - all puppies are different and it's unfair on you and the pup to feel you have to do things by certain ages. That's setting yourselves up for possible 'failure', which will only add stress to your relationship. :)

Is he overtired or over-excited? Like toddlers, the calmer you are, the calmer they are, and if they get too wound up they start to lose control. So make sure the pup gets plenty of time out for naps, and keep the atmosphere in the house as quiet and serene as you can!
:)
- By starlight [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:41 UTC
Fat chance a serene house i'd like that too lol maybe if i kick them all out i might stand a chance its like having two babies husband a pup he dont know which is worse him sulking or the pup biting lol
- By 1maximillion [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:36 UTC
I think you just have to be consistent our pup is 14 weeks old and still bites sometimes although not as much she was quite like yours and barked at us if told no but didnt growl and we found we couldnt pet her either.The idea about having a toy is a good one we used that in the end and it does work but takes time and patience also we found saying ouch in a squeaky voice made her bite us more so we now say ouch in quite a firm voice and that seems to have some effect,it will get better but you just have to hang in there and keep up the tactic you have started,i think for some puppies there is no quick fix once they have cut there puppy teeth well with ours anyway the biting subsided,she is now losing them and getting her adult teeth so we are back to that stage although not as bad,so when teething has finished completely i think you will see a difference we believe we will i am sure you will,hopefull;y anyway i dont think any puppy biteds deliberately it is just a matter of being taught some manners,keep up the good work and good luck.
- By starlight [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:39 UTC
Thanks max hope so because its getting a bit stressful in here especially with the old man he cant hack it (hehe) big girls blouse mind you he cant handle noisy kids so what chance does puppy stand i think i will make him sleep in the crate and take baby up to bed with me lol
- By Dill [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:24 UTC
JG,

I see that as redirecting their natural urges ;) and bite inhibition is vital if a dog is to be safe around children so to stop biting altogether is counterproductive :)  when mine were this age I had the house littered with doggy things to chew, that way there was always something nearby to offer the pup :)
- By Dill [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:30 UTC
sorry Starlight we posted at the same time lol

In addition to JG's excellent advice, if the pup is this bad, try removing him to another room for 5 mins time out every time he starts the hard biting, everyone in the house must stick to this rule, the first few days you'll probably find that he's in another room most of the time, but as he gets the idea that hard biting means all fun stops then it will happen less and less.  Some pups just find their humans sooo stimulating they can't help themselves, and of course some pups are generally chewier than others.

Just think of it as more opportunities for him to learn the lesson thoroughly :D
- By starlight [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:34 UTC
Forgot to say the ignoring part has come to putting him behind the gate where he can see but not touch us doesnt seem to bother him as its not just happening when we are having fun its constant even when we are just sitting quietly or making a cup of tea Although its worse first thing in the morning when we get up lol
- By trackie29 [gb] Date 29.06.05 20:49 UTC
Maybe you should try asking Teri he/she seems to give sound advice to most people
- By anastasia [gb] Date 29.06.05 22:03 UTC
Well I feel really hopeless lately.My 7 month pup uses me as a biting object,admittedly he knows just about the exact amount of pressure I can withstand! But sometime of every day we get this battle of wills - he can be the most loving angel one minute and the spiteful naughty boy the next! I tend now to just leave him alone with his numerous bones and chews,and soon it is all forgotten again.I do not think I have a stern enough voice now I am in my dotage, as my son only says one "gruff"word to the naughty boy when he pops in, and the pup listens immediately - it makes me so envious.Years back the pups "cheeky backchat "never bothered me then,but I was a lot younger then I suppose.
- By Teri Date 29.06.05 22:59 UTC
Thank you trackie but I think it's only fair to say that JG and Dill have it covered ;)  I sincerely hope that you are making progress with your own puppy - fingers (unbitten ones :P ) crossed!

Perhaps you'll post an update in a little while - preferably of an improvement!

Good luck meantime, Teri  :)
- By starlight [gb] Date 30.06.05 07:56 UTC
Thanks Teri i sure hope he gets better do you think i should have seen some improvement though within two weeks? or is it too soon he seems to go for you teeth beared and all when either we ignore or tell NO
- By Brainless [gb] Date 30.06.05 08:56 UTC
I suggest you put Extinction Burst into a searh engine like Google.  What this means is that often a behaviour will get worse before it gets better.  Something a dog or child has done has got results, suddenly it  doesn't so they try extra hard (if you then give in change tack they have been proved right).
- By alyhyena [gb] Date 30.06.05 11:56 UTC
I have an 11 week old lab that has a problem with biting. I have noticed that when she either wants a poo or wee or is simply over tired it gets worse. If  it does'nt ease after one it sometimes means that she want to do more. I now am trying to get in to a routine more like a baby to see if things calm down. Hope this helps and i will keep you posted
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / excessive biting

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