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- By Kelsey Youngman [gb] Date 28.06.05 01:34 UTC
The persen who was asken about the size of my pugs hernia didnt read it on the other post. its about the size of a 5pence and raised slightly on her belly button. i asked the vet if this was a proplem for her and he said it doesnt have to be removed because it wont cause any proplems for her. he said the only time they would remove it is if she had an opp. Im quite worried about this now people have said things like its ok if its such a thing but if its the other thing then it sounds quite serious from what i read of this. the breeder nerver even told me she had an hernia. Should she of still told me even if its not a proplem? i only noticed when i got her home. So thats when i had the vet check her. If u think i may need a second opinion please let me no. thanks
- By Val [gb] Date 28.06.05 07:13 UTC
Kelsey, I am more than a little concerned that your breeder didn't point out your bitch's hernia to you.  I haven't had any but breeders that I know who have always reduce the cost of the puppy by the cost of the repair operation.  I would never buy a bitch with a hernia (because at 8 weeks I couldn't be sure if it was just a late closure) if I had any intentions that I may possibly breed from her in the future.  Having said that NOBODY can guarantee that an 8 week old puppy will grow to be suitable quality to be bred from as an adult!

I have posted on your other thread about breeding with a hernia.
- By Blue Date 28.06.05 10:25 UTC
To be honest kelsey sometimes looking at a hernia I think you cannot tell what has caused the hernia . IE trauma or hereditary.

I think as a general rule people do not breed from dogs who have had or produced puppies with hernia. I suppose there may be a possibility if the bitch was so outstanding, at the least a champion then the risks would need to be weighed up. Not something I think I would personally do.

Did the breeder know you had planned to breed from this puppy?
- By ClaireyS Date 28.06.05 10:32 UTC
just out of curiosity what harm can a hernia do ?  Fagan had a small one and no one ( including the vet ) seemed too bothered about it.
- By Blue Date 28.06.05 11:08 UTC
Hernias can cause obstruction of the intestines, causing pain, nausea, & sickness.

Strangulation of the hernia, which occurs when the protruding tissue swells and cuts off the blood supply to the loop of intestine within it. The strangulated intestine can become gangrenous, which can be life-threatening.

It can be from one end of the extreme to the other I believe.
- By Kelsey Youngman [gb] Date 28.06.05 23:49 UTC
The vet said that when she was born from c section the vet must of cut  it slightly wrong and its got fatty tissue traped but wont be a prob.

will this still be a problem if its the vets fault by cutting it wrong? And will it be best just to get it removed?
- By Brainless [gb] Date 29.06.05 08:26 UTC
Have a read of this link : http://www.showdogsupersite.com/kenlclub/breedvet/umbilical.html
- By tippie [au] Date 29.06.05 08:43 UTC
Cant hernia's be there because the mum didnt bite the umbilical cord off properly? I had a dog years ago with a hernia and this was the excuse the breeder gave me. If this is true than it wouldnt be a problem to breed as it wasnt hereditary,or am i waaaaay off mark? :o
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 29.06.05 10:25 UTC
As far as I know that theory is merely wishful thinking. I've known bitches gnaw the umbilical right off, flush to the pup's belly, and there's been no hernia.
- By Fillis Date 29.06.05 11:10 UTC
Ditto JG - one of mine was taken right to the belly and he didnt have one
- By sandra33 [gb] Date 29.06.05 11:25 UTC
One of my pups has an hernia, it was mums first time litter and I actually saw her cause the hernia, she chewed the cord and was shaking the pup while eating the placenta, this was the only pup from a litter of 7 with it, she was so keen to eat the placenta that she nearly ate the pup as well......lol.  She has been vet checked and they have confirmed that it will be ok as it's only small.
- By Kelsey Youngman [gb] Date 30.06.05 00:10 UTC
So is it best to get it removed? if the vet did cause it or will it be fine left alone plz let me no.
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / JUST INCASE

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