Hi all

For a few months now my newf refuses to 'stand' for longer then 30 secs :(
First his bottom hits the floor and then the rest of him follows.
Trying to get him back to his stand position is impossible, its as if his rear end is glued to the floor.
I would love to show him (only shown him once) but am I living in cloud cuckoo :)
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you all :)

No you're not living in cloud cuckoo land..just go back to basics.Ask for a stand and only keep it for 5 seconds...praise and reward.Repeat and gradually increase.All I would say is don't overdo it...once or twice a day ask for 1 stand....don't want him getting bored.Also try to make your praise really 'excited' ...
Archer

As I've posted before,I'm still having this problem with Luke - he'll stand at home fine, but at ringcraft he's still absolutely hopeless! He still wiggles all over the place when the dogs stand together, and when being looked over will only stand if lured. I do wonder if everyone thinks I'm daft to continue - but he does so love going....:-)

sorry i have no ideas, but carene your not datf at all your dog has atitude, thats a key think i think in showing!

Fiona

I had the same trouble when megan my black newfoundland was a puppy. we paid for a course of training class's for her but after she refused to stand  in the first 3 lessons, laid flat out and would not get up to allow me to tell her to sit, we gave up for a while and then started all over again when we though the time was right for her, this wa just before she was a year old but she did respond better.

Lynn

Hi Carene, do you feel it's a health problem, it may be worth taking him the vet if he's reluctant to stand, is he like this at home or just in ring craft, have the parents been hip scored.

Warm regards Susan

No, I did say he stands fine at home, he just gets so excited at ringcraft he won't stand still, or for any length of time. :-) Thanks.

I wouldn't worry at all, my breed rarely stand still, they are supposed to be bold and energetic, so fidgetting about actually shows that they are, even if it is frustrating.  Nothing looks worse than a dog standing without animation looking like a sack of s**t, sorry spuds :D

Couldn't agree more Brainless...made that mistake with my first elkhound.Over rained and although he was foot perfect when in the ring there was no sparkle.Had to stop training all together in order to get him less 'stiff'.
With the others I have done ringcraft maybe once a month until they are 6 months and then use the ring as the training ground.....worked better for me.
Archer

There are a few people who insist on stacking their Elkhounds and what happens is they become static and alcking in that pulled together  look.  I have noticed that one such has taken on board comments and is trying to freestand their dog as they should be.

Yes...I've noticed some stacking creeping in....such a shame .I would hate to see our breed become stacked.
Archer

Me to.  Now I don't meanif your boxed in and the dog moves into GSD stance behind, then obviously quickly moving a foot rather than upset a good stand is OK, but placing a dog in the first instance, no no no!

ohhh.....I've done that,moved one foot I mean....especially if space is a bit tight! IMO a dog with correct construction(along with a reasonable handler) should stand correctly without manhandling....
Archer

Yes, stacking is creeping in.  It is deplorable in our breed, and does nothing for elkie angulation if feet are pulled too far back behind the root of the tail, as they inevitably seem to be.  Moving a foot is acceptable I think, although my sister was told off many years ago for doing just that by one of the "doyennes".

Thank you for your reply. :)
I will go back to basics with him and I have enrolled him in an extra ringcraft course.
His sister is doing very well at shows and is going to Peterborough. She has a wonderful stand. Maybe he is just a lazy boy who needs a bit more work :)