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Topic Dog Boards / Showing / IS 3 COMPANY AND 4 A CROWD?
- By JLH [gb] Date 14.06.05 15:04 UTC
HELLO

WE HAVE 2 BITHCHES IN OUR HOUSE (GSD 14YRS) AND (BOXER 7YRS).  WE ALSO HAVE A MALE LEONBERGER WHICH WE HAVE BEEN SHOWING.  OUR DOGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FINE WITH EACHOTHER AND GET ALONG VERY WELL WITH NO ARGIMENTS.  WE ARE HOPING TO BRING ANOTHER LEONBERGER INTO THE HOUSE ALSO TO SHOW MEANING WE WILL THEN HAVE 2 ENTIRE DOGS AND 2 SPAYED BITCHES IN OUR HOUSE.  I WOULD LIKE ADVISE WHEATHER OR NOT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA HAVING 2 ENTIRE MALES IN A HOUSE.  MANY THANKS  JLH
- By f.a.brook [gb] Date 14.06.05 15:32 UTC
Although ours are apart most of th time we have 2 entire males and femails here. I would think as long as your in controle you should be ok, but they are big dogs.

Fiona
- By archer [gb] Date 14.06.05 15:38 UTC
How old is your Leonberger?
Archer
- By boxerlolly [gb] Date 14.06.05 15:40 UTC
Hi,

The lady who bred both of my girls keep 6 bitches and 3 dogs, two of which are actively used at stud, together in the house. She doesn't have any problems but it goes without saying that they are all of fantastic temperament. I'm sure this could work for you if you place temperament extremely high on your list when looking for your pup and if the dog you already have is also good with other adult males.

Jen
- By JLH [gb] Date 14.06.05 16:04 UTC
OUR LEONBERGER IS 15 MONTHS OLD AND HAS BEEN WELL SOCILISED WITH OTHER DOGS.  WHEN PICKING HARVEY (OUR LEONBERGER) WE CHOSE TEMPERMENT 1ST THEN LOOKS AND WE SHALL BE DOING THE SAME WITH THIS ONE.  THANKS FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSE MORE ADVISE IT VERY WELCOME  JLH
- By archer [gb] Date 14.06.05 16:23 UTC
I would make sure your boy is at least 2 years old before you have another pup....can save a lot of problems with dominance issues.
Archer
- By f.a.brook [gb] Date 14.06.05 18:40 UTC
i was just thinking along archers lines! would you only have a dog??
Fiona
- By Brainless [gb] Date 15.06.05 08:07 UTC
From what I have heard Leos are not one of the breeds where males automatically can't be kept together.

In my breed males are usually fine if there is a decent age gap and bitches are preferably not entire.

I would wait until your boiy is fully mature say nearing 3 years old before introdcuign another male.  That way by the time the yougn one would even thing of trying it on a bit the older one will be self assured enough to handle things without going over the top.

My freinds at the moment has two spaeyd bitches and two entire males who are 4 years apart in age, and is getting a puppy bitch from the older ones first litter.  She will then be having to watch things carefully and ensure that when the build up to seasons occurs they are given no reason to squabble.
- By ice_queen Date 14.06.05 21:32 UTC
We have two males with nearly 4 years between them and they get on fine most of the time but have had a couple of punchups in their lifetime (youngest is 7) Mostly though they get ratty with eachother when a bitch is in season and must admit normally it's by one of us humans being careless!

However my grandparents had two males who got along fine and they brought a 3rd one in, admitidly at 8 mths old.  After a couple of months the new dogs started challenging the eldest and "top dog" and they still tot his day have to be seperated.  The two middle one got on fine with both for awhile but then started challenging teh eldest (poor turk was getting picked on! :( ) The two youngest stil getting on. then it turned and all of a sudden the two youngest strated not to get along.  All 3 had to be seperated at ALL times. :(  With this we will not bring in a 3rd male.

You are more likly to be able to get to males get along but make sure you bring in the pup at 8 weeks.  I think my grandparents problem was bringing in a 8 mth old that was getting to his bloshy stage.  If he had been 8 weeks he might have learnt that he was not going to be top dog untill turk backed down!

Also how is your current male with other male dogs?  Does he get on fine?  OUt of the dogs who is top?  If one of the bitches is top then there will be less challenging.  OUr boys never used to fight while Emmi was top dog.  the first fight strated soon after we lost her when the top dog role became avalible.  This is just what I think it's how it started, but 99% of the time we live with harmony and peace.  the boys sleep curled up togther and I have photographic evidence!
- By JLH Date 15.06.05 07:51 UTC
OUR GSD LIZZIE IS TOP DOG AND HARVEY IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PACK.  HE HAS BEEN WELL SOCILIASED AND GETS ON WITH MALES AND FEMALES NO PROBLEM.  HE IS QUITE A SUBMISIVE AND OLD SOFTY REALLY.  THANKS AGIN FOR UR COMMENTS  JLH
- By Brainless [gb] Date 15.06.05 08:09 UTC
Sounds like you best get planning for a puppy next year :D
- By ice_queen Date 15.06.05 10:05 UTC
I agree with Brainless.  If he is a submissive type I think you should be ok.  Just make sure when you have two males in the house together, be firm with them and don't let them get into any situations where they could fall out.  If you are careful then they will be best buddies.  Aslo make sure the breeder DOES breed for temperment before anythign else and if possible find out what his father and grandfathers are like! :) You can just never be too careful!

Good luck and look forward to hearing about a little puppy Leo!
- By LucyD [gb] Date 16.06.05 07:53 UTC
I have 2 entire males which were different breeds but the same age. They got on fine for 3 years until I introduced a bitch! I had expected problems when she came in season, but the trouble started at only 5 months old. With yours being spayed bitches you might be ok, but I've had so much heartache over this that although I love my puppy I wish I'd never seen her, and that my 2 boys could live together again.
Topic Dog Boards / Showing / IS 3 COMPANY AND 4 A CROWD?

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