By jenny
Date 08.06.05 21:21 UTC
i'll start from the beginning so i hopefully wont miss anything.
Right, Indie (13 month old staffordshire bull terrier) is dog aggressive... but only if she or the other dog is onlead. When she was 14 weeks old she was pinned to the floor by a staffie altho unharmed. When she was 5 months old she was attacked by a staffie and suffered a cut on her face. Ever since then she has started being aggressive. To me, i think its nervous aggression or something similar.
I have watched closely and tried to work out the common factor here. That is, she is only ever aggressive if the person with the other dog pulls their dog to the side, Indie will then growl and bark and lunge at the dog trying to attack it. If the other person comes up to us normally and providing their dog doesnt start barking at her, she is fine. Altho yesterday she was fine with said dog, but as i tried to go my seperate way, indie started havin a go at the dog who was barkin at her.
Today as we were comin up to the entrance to the hills, i was walkin towards this woman with a doberman, indie has never had problems with this dog, but the dog was onlead. Anyway, indie was fine, but i accidently dropped the lead and she ran up to the dobie wagging her tail wanting to play, as she jumped on him more he got cornered, and then she got aggressive with him. I mean, maybe the dobie was gettin defensive cos he was cornered and indie picked up on it? i dont know, but shes never been aggressive unrestricted b4.
Ive tried havin her on a flexi line so shes not as restricted, ive tried havin her on a lead round my waist so im not pulling her back, ive tried ignoring her, ive tried telling her off, ive tried walkin the other way, ive tried crossing the road, ive tried distracting her with a toy or a treat... but she still always has a go.
When i first took all three dogs out together she was fine, no grumbles, for a few times after that she was fine. But shes gone aggressive again, so i have to walk them seperate as i dont want her lashing out at my other two when shes in frenzy mode.
i think ive covered everything?
edited to add: when she attended the adult training class that i help out at she was fine, but once the other dogs started barking she went crazy, altho i think training classes stress her out as she was like this in her puppy class too, where there were 2 aggressive dogs.
My trainer has suggested putting a spray collar on her?

The reason for why dogs are more aggressive on the lead is that they feel they have your support when you are at the other end of it. Have you tried using a headcollar? That way you can turn the head AWAY from the other dog and that often has a big effect, then when there is no growling or anything you praise a LOT. Telling off may actually have the opposite effect with some dogs, as they feel you are joining in having a go at the other dog rather than reprimanding them.
I had a dog aggressive dog once (he hated everything, dogs, bitches, puppies) but I managed to turn him round. I would start off walking far away from other dogs, praising him when he SAW then but didn't growl, and ignoring him when he did growl. Over several weeks I would gradually move closer and closer until eventually I was able to get close to other dogs without him showing any aggression.I realise it isn't always as simple as this but it's worth a try -it does have to be done slowly though.
Marianne

Junior gets dog aggressive towards other dogs, he pulls on the lead barking and whining. Iam not sure if he would actually bite the other dog but not something I want to chance...
I have had Junior in obedience, Novice, agility 1, 2 and koas fun and he did great, some off leash and when he went to another dog I told him to stop and he just looked at the dog, think because he wasn't leashed...
What I did with him I taught him the watch me command and treated, this was to keep all eye's on me. I also found that I would tense up on his leash which would cause unwanted behaviour from him, so I have learned to keep a slack leash and relax.... When people would walk by with their dogs I have put him into either a sit or a down and just stood by him but not to close, I found the down worked the best... I find when he is in a down they don't bark as much and can't jump up as fast as they can in a sit. The down is not where their back legs are crunched behind them but out to the side (I call it all the way) and he lays with his back legs out (hope that made sense).... This way he realizes that nothing bad is going to happen to him and he is safe and I don't have to be standing right beside him but a foot away and all with a slack leash, once they pass I come and praise/treat him and love him up... This is what I was told to practice when I was in obedience class and it has payed off. It does take time but he is getting alot better.... We had our first walk 2 weeks ago and able to walk by other dogs with out him freaking out.... Even in dog class I would stand by someone with a dog that he really didn't like and put him in a down and talk to that person, I even had them offer Junior a treat but I never petted their dog or offered treats to them not at first till Junior was comfortable... The whole point was just for him to realize nothing bad was going to happen to him even tho this dog is right there and to build his confidence, I was told they feel alot more vulnerable when they are in a down.....
Hope some of this helps you :)
hi goldmali would a head coller be sutible for a miniture dacs i know your prob thinking why,coz of the size of her. but since ive had her she is dog aggressive well thats wat i think it is,like the op she is fine if the dog isnt pulling on there lead or even approching here but as soon as they pull there lead she starts lunging and barking at them ! its not to bad as i can control her because she is so tiny but its aukward taking her out as she goes for most dogs we pass!
By theemx
Date 15.06.05 13:52 UTC

"The reason for why dogs are more aggressive on the lead is that they feel they have your support when you are at the other end of it"
Thats not always the case.....more often than not, the reason why dogs are aggressive on the lead is because they know they are trapped of the options they would normally have, fight, or flight, they have only got fight left.
Then there is the fact that you can transmit your tension and nervousness of an approaching dog down the lead to your dog, pulling your dog back etc.
I use distraction to sort it out, and also NOT having my dog on a lead very often, however i am lucky that i can do that and not eveyrone can!
Em
By deaks
Date 10.06.05 05:27 UTC
You need to find a socialisation/aggression specialist in your area who will be able to teach your dog how to behave around other dogs. It is not like a formal training class, more free play but supervised and guided.
Check out www.k9clinic.co.uk or www.dog-partnership.co.uk to name a couple
i hate to be a bore and give this answer, but i would keep my Stafford away from other dogs and avoid any confrontational experiences. They were not bred to like other dogs, even the heavily bred KC dogs can still be very aggressive towards other dogs.
I would probably accept your dog may always be this way and there may not be much you can do to turn it around without "experimenting" and at possibly the cost of someone else's pet, because if your stafford gets in a fight, she / he will probably win it and cause a LOT of damage!
Anyway, its just my opinion and im sure there are many people that have turned dog aggressive staffies around to being social monsters with other doggies!
Good luck