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well u not giving him or her anuff love my mate dog was nasty he even bite me a few times with abit of love and care he ok now. u got to treat him or he like u would for your kid if he does something wrong show him u not happy with him.!!!!!!!! it's not HARD ffs....... KICKING OR PUNCHING is not the answer!!!!!!
By digger
Date 07.06.05 18:49 UTC
I wonder if the death of the bitch could be significant in this? At what age did you get the puppy? Was it living with litter mates and/or the breeders other dogs from the time of the death of the mother until it came to live with you? BTW - how old are you? I'm sorry if you've already mentioned this........ And are you male or female? It's sor hard to tell from 'handles' ;)
i got the puppy home at 7weeks, and after his mothers death, he still lived with his littermates, and two other dogs.
im female, and you will probly all think i am silly but im 14, im on my moms account, as she really cant use a computer! but the dogs problam is mainly with me, i am home schooled as a have agoraphobia and i had a bad head injury as a child wich makes it difficult for me to do things with people, i only really socialise with dogs! we got this dog after the loss of my old collie who was my best friend. and i am very good with dogs so i have been told by people, ive been told i have a 'magic touch' with animals but obviously not this one! the dog hates my mom aswell sometimes, he leaves my big sister alone, and sometimes (but not often) goes for my big brother. i hope you dont all think i am silly because of my age x
By Vicki
Date 07.06.05 20:04 UTC
No-one on here will think you are silly because of your age. I personally admire you for trying to sort out this problem dog, and though I'll leave the "proper advice" to the many experts on here, I am thinking of you and wish you all the luck. You are showing maturity beyond your years - good for you!
By NigelB
Date 07.06.05 22:38 UTC
You originally refered to your dogs parents in the present tense and said they are lovely temperments. You now tell us the bitch died when your dog was 6 weeks old. Which is it to be?
Cheers
Nigel
If your dog goes for others as well as you then he obviously has an aggression problem in general as opposed to some sort of dominance/bonding etc problem with just you. So don't blame yourself, ok? It could be that because of your own problems, and I should think, lack of self confidence, and being the youngest, he targets mainly you as he sees you as the omega member of the pack and so the least threat to him. Basically you are his easiest target to take his aggression out on.
Whatever you do, don't fight with this dog, he will win. I still feel your best option would be to have him pts. Sorry, not a nice thing to say about someone elses pet I know, but from what you have said this dog is basically nasty and he is going to keep attacking you. As he gets bigger and more confident and his successes of beating you add up, those attacks will get worse and one day he is going to do something terrible. Despite what some people will have you believe, some dogs, as with humans, are simply born nasty and there is nothing you can do. If it is a dog who dislikes people or dogs it can be managed with extra care and muzzles. But a 7 mth old healthy 'puppy' with no previous bad experiences who will seriously attack a 14 yr old girl for no reason is, IMO, beyond help.
If you really can't bear to have him pts, which would be understandable, then he needs to be returned to his breeder. She bred him, it is therefore her responsibility if the owner cannot cope. I am so worried about you I check on here every day, morning, noon and night to make sure there are no more incidents and my blood runs cold every time I see another posting on it in case something has happened.
What does your family think about this situation? It must be terrifying for your parents.
Take care of yourself, keep us posted on how things go. :-)
IT'S 7 MOUTHS OLD U SAY TO PUT HIM DOWN FFS. WELL WHAT CAN I SAY FFS JUST GIVE HIM LOVE AND DISCIPLINE WHEN NEEDED HE BE OK. U GOT TO SPEND ALOT OF TIME WITH HIM. TRUST ME IT'S WORKS
By Lokis mum
Date 08.06.05 07:09 UTC
Sorry, Public Enemy, but I'm afraid that you are wrong in this instance - sadly, love and discipline is not enough for all dogs.
Me-n-pero - I think you (and your parents) should go BACK to the breeder - sadly this puppy is NOT the one for you. Maybe the breeder can retrain this puppy and rehome it - but you need to find a calm puppy.
Are you in the UK or USA?
Margot
Are you in the UK? :) and have you managed to get hold of that behaviourist yet?
I read with interest your post above re him getting you on the floor and you being covered in scratches and cuts, and that you say he "normally stops earlier" (or words to that effect).
If I have read this aright, it means he has been able to "practice" this behaviour. He may even think it is a game. Do you feel this is what has happened or am i on the wrong tack? :)
If you mean what i think you mean, it may be that he is being very wound up and excited and doesn't understand boundaries. I would not say *necessarily* that this is an aggressive dog - but you do need help in understanding how to give boundaries etc and improve the whole relationship or it could all go very wrong :(.
Until you see someone, you need to be calm and controlled around the dog and not initiate any games :)
Obviously I am only going on what i am reading on the internet, because it's impossible to tell via the internet exactly what is happening. If you get hold of a reputable behaviourist who is experienced in aggression you will have good support, that is why i ask if you are in the UK, because in the States "behaviourists" differ a lot in their methods and some IMO are not good at all.
Lindsay
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Hi all,
thank you for your concern it is nice to know your all there :-), (and yes im in the uk)
and to public_enemy, i show my dog so much love and care! and i do disopline him aswell, he has to wait for his food untill i say so etc. he must know i love him because i am the one who taught him housetraining, sit, wait, lie down, paw etc and im the one who feeds him and plays with him (allthough everybody does play with him of cource) and i doubt that my dog has Ever felt uncared for. he even has his own big toy box!
but anyway, my mom is phoning the behaviorist first thing this morning when she gets home from taking my brother and sister to there school. the behaviorist has a website to and they look pretty good too! ive even been contacted by that tv show 'its me or the dog' as they wanted to help. so hopefully things should start getting better soon and maybe he will start going for walks with me again (for some reason he will only go with my sister) so i will tell you all one i know anythink :-)<hugs to everyone>

As several of us have tried to ascertain the owner needs someone independent to assess if this is truly aggression or OTT inappropriate play behaviour which can easily be confused.
If it truly is aggression then putting to sleep would seem the only responsible way to go.
If it isn't (and I rather think it cannot be as there is only mention of scratches not wounds, and I cannot see the parents allowing things to get that bad) then the dog needs appropriate retraining before it does become dangerous.
Being a breeder and helping at training classes I have often seen puppies being puppies whose owners think they are being aggresive where in fact they are being over confident/disprespectful or frustrated when they get mixed signals.
We have seen lots of threads on Puppy mouthing where the owners are questioning if the pup is vicious.
Haveing in my home a bitch who at 8 1/2 months old came back to me and would playbite and wrestle with me because that is what she wanted and to hell with what I wanted, who is sweet and loving (though still naughtily playful and testing), just didn't think boundaries applied to her.
Her previous owners just couldn't bond with her at all as she was so wilfull and I think they were disappointed that puppy ownership wasn't going the way they had envisoned. No fault of theirs or the dog, just she needed a rather more aware owner than they could be as first time owners.
You only need to read the title of this thread "MY dog hates me" to see how owners can personaliose bd behaviour which in turn affects the relationship making solving the problem harder. People assume dogs think and have similar values and moral judgements as humans where in fact they are animals.
Totally agree with you Brainless (one of these days you'll change that handle :P).
I remember the case of the "aggressive" Lab puppy, someone was asking on behalf of a friend : it sounded pretty bad but, once they saw the pup realised it was not aggression at all and were able to help owner and pup. Really hope this is the case here... fingers crossed!
I feel better now we know Me n Pero is in the UK :)
Lindsay
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WELL IF U THINK I'M WRONG WELL WHAT CAN I SAY. MY MATE DOG WAS PITBULL. IT BITE ALL MY MATES INTIL I CHANGE HIM HE WAS 2 HALF YEAR OLD WHEN I WENT AROUND. I CHANGE HIM IN LIKE 2-3 MOUTHS. HE A CALM DOG NOW
IF U SHOW U SCARED OF HIM THEN HE WILL THINK HE THE BOSS!!!!
Public Enemy please take your caps lock off, it is considered shouting and seen as rude.
Maybe you did change the behaviour of that dog, although it could not have been a 'Pitbull' as they were banned about 15 yrs ago and would now be dead or decrepid, more likely to be a Pitbull type. Although it is great that you changed this dogs behaviour you can't go around telling everyone who has a problem with their dog to give it more love and discipline as though it is some sort of instant fix. Just because something works with one dog doesn't mean it will work with another and there are lots of different causes of aggression so to blame the owners and accuse them of not giving their dog enough love is, IMO, wrong and a bit insulting!
sorry about the caps, anyway pitbull could be ban but it don't mean people have not got them
i been bought up with dog all my life i have never had a nasty dog, it's how people bring them up. if u show them repect u get it back
By Lokis mum
Date 09.06.05 10:56 UTC
Public Enemy - you are NOT showing respect to anything or anyone by boasting that you have an "illegal" dog.
Whether you like it or not, the law is the law and should be respected.
Margot
hey,
the behavoirist is coming over first thing next wensday morning. cant wait to see her!
and to public enemy (again) i do show my dog respect, i do not let him think he is the boss. to be honest i really dont appreciate you being nasty with me when i came on here for help like these other lovely people are giving me!
By Lokis mum
Date 09.06.05 11:27 UTC
Glad to know that you've set the ball rolling M-N-P - do let us know how you get on!
Margot
well u must gone wrong somewhere love
By Zoe
Date 09.06.05 12:05 UTC
You should ignore this person...just have to read his name to realise they are just out to wind peeps up!
WTF u on about zoe i'm only telling the truth people make dogs nasty don't blame the dog blame the owners
Public Enemy <<<Well, you must have gone wrong somewhere love.>>>
She's a 14 yr old girl with a 7 mth old dog who has turned out to be nasty, how is that her fault? If you can't say anything nice and supportive then don't say anything at all. This poor girl has enough to deal with without comments like that!
M&P good luck with the behaviourist I really hope you are able to sort this out. And as I said before, please don't blame yourself, you sound like such a sweet, caring person. Take care. x
Hi Me n Pero
Good luck with the behaviourist, I hope you can get this sorted. You have done nothing wrong - don't let one persons silly comments upset you.
As Colliesrus says you do sound like such a sweet caring person.
Good luck
Helen
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