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- By Guest [gb] Date 01.06.05 22:42 UTC
Dear  all, I have a strange question to pose. January 2004 my Weimaraner was born. She became a much loved member of our family and has been a real joy. She is happy, healthy, living andloving life to the full!! She has great temperament, personality and looks but has onevery antui-social problem..the most stinky freequent wind!! She shows no sign of bloat or other illness according to her vet and is fed a well balanced diet of Eukaneuba which suits her in all other ways.
Has anyone else encountered the same problem, either with a young Weimaraner or other breed? Do you have any suggestions or comments. They would be most gratefully received!!

Thank you
- By susantwenty? [gb] Date 01.06.05 22:53 UTC
Hi guest i'm having the same problem with my bullmastiff she absolutely stinks, i felt ashamed tonight in ringcraft phew, she was just letting them rip every few seconds and i dont mean to be visual but boy i thought she was going to follow through.  She was on beta but i changed her as her belly did bloat onto wafcol hypo allerginic food with tripe, beef, salmon or mackerel three times a week with scrambled egg of a morning.  I do think it is definitely down to diet but i myself need to find out which food is upsetting her stomach.  I've just been on another forum and read that dogs poos should be small because it shows that they are digesting their food properly the larger the poos are apparently means the more fillers the food has had put into it.  I'm going to watch your thread with interest.

Warm regards Susan.
- By stann [gb] Date 02.06.05 00:03 UTC
I read a post on here recently with similar issues. My boy absolutely honks, and can clear a room.He was fed on jwb, i had some advice i believe from tohme who recomended burns food. I have started the change over and already he doesnt fluff half so much and he is pooping less often. I swapped to jwb in the first place on the vets advice and my boy had runny tum for ages, bless. He (touch wood) hasnt had any probs so for in this change over. I think the only way to know what is causing it is trial and error. Hopefully it will righten because there is nothing worse when you have company, funny if you blame your OH tee hee.
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 06:30 UTC
There is no reason for dogs to pass wind, fragrant or non fragrant if they are eating the correct diet for them.

Grains cause gas, particularly soya.  Because dogs are not designed to consume processed cereal the gut has to produce a great deal of bacteria to break it down (dogs do no possess the enzymes in the saliva as we and other animals designed to eat cereals do to start the metabolic process).  The bacteria then produces the gas.

I have to say Eukanuba would not be my personal top choice for feeding a dog.  Try Burns or Naturediet.  Both are available on the net, deliver free, are on the BUAV approved list and contain only meat, rice and vegetables.

HTH

Fellow Weim owner.
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 06:39 UTC
Lots of things make dogs f*rt tohme. Turkey bones make mine gassy :) They are fed BARF but still certain things have an adverse effect ;)
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:13 UTC
My point exactly, if a food is not appropriate for a particular dog (or human) it will cause gas.

Hence why I do not feed salmon to mine.
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:17 UTC
Hmm , so are you saying that turkey carcasses (oh and chicken in the case of Delta) are not suitable food for dogs or just a particular dog?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:21 UTC
LOL! :D
("Petard" and "hoist" spring to mind) :D
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:24 UTC
I am saying that not ALL foods are suitable for ALL dogs, as I have said many, many times on this forum.  Just as not ALL foods are suitable for ALL people.

Dogs and humans have individual food tolerances/allergies etc that need to be respected.

Hopefully no one would suggest that anyone/dog that had a problem with some ingredients should be made to consume them at the expense of their health?

I think you will find that neither I nor any petard has been hoisted JG ;)  Quite the contrary! :D
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:28 UTC
I really must remind my husband that an omnivorous diet doesn't suit him! ;) :D

Can f*rting truly be classified as a health problem? Surely it's only a problem for the people around!
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:31 UTC
I don't think anyone mentioned anywhere at all that f*arting WAS a health problem, or did I miss that post? ;)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:33 UTC
It was where you mentioned about individuals being made to consume things at the expense of their health.
:)
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:36 UTC
"Hopefully no one would suggest that anyone/dog that had a problem with some ingredients should be made to consume them at the expense of their health? "

No mention of f*rting there...........
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:37 UTC
The whole thread is on the topic of f*rting, Tohme! That's what we're talking about!
:)
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:31 UTC
I don't think that f*rting has ever been associated with food allergies has it? Oh dear, better get hubby sorted out then :D
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:32 UTC
Has it not?
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:33 UTC
Has it?
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:34 UTC
http://www.rx4autism.org/2nd_step/food_allergy.htm
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:39 UTC
Hmm ...so it *can* indicate an allergy ....not that it *does*. Autistic children ...yup......other symptoms...yes...no dogs mentioned yet though ....

Hmm ...so your comment was based on that piece of research ?

There must be one heck of a lot of people who are allergic to baked beans then ;)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:40 UTC
Ah, baked beans are a processed food, Mel! ;) The work of the devil! :D
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:42 UTC
Gosh what brand does Satan's food sell under JG?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:44 UTC
All brands that have seen the inside of a factory, Tohme. :)
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:44 UTC
Wow, thanks for letting me know JG, I will spread the word.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:46 UTC
I thought that's what you do already, Tohme. :)
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:42 UTC
This is true JG , this is true :D ......organic beans then?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:43 UTC
And must be raw, Mel! :D :D
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:44 UTC
Raw beans would definitely give you gas, if not a lot worse.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:45 UTC
Are you saying raw food is wrong, Tohme?
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:45 UTC
ROTFL

*holds sides*

:p :p :p
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:48 UTC
Raw food is wrong in some circumstances yes.
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:44 UTC
Ewwww raw beans blech *vomit* :D

I suppose none of this is helping the OP ...we must be sensible :)

To the original poster: Charcoal biscuits can help with a f*rty dog :)
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 07:41 UTC
No it is not based on that single piece of research, it was just the nearest thing to hand as an example.
- By jackyjat [gb] Date 02.06.05 07:58 UTC
Although all things should be considered I would be concerned that people will take that piece of research relating to the diet of autistic children out of context.  Although there has been lots of research into gluten and autistic children there has never been any conclusive research with hard and fast evidence.

I know the OP was asking about windy dogs, but I just wouldn't want someone with concerns over an autistic child to read that link and jump to a wrong conclusion.  This isn't the time or place to have a debate over autism and food so I'll keep zipped!
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 08:01 UTC
I merely used is because it was the first thing to hand on my favourites with reference to symptoms of food allergies.
- By jackyjat [gb] Date 02.06.05 08:04 UTC
As long as people only take is as reference and NOT evidence.
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 08:12 UTC
Unfortunately we cannot control what conclusions other people jump to about any subject or what they infer from posts etc.
- By jackyjat [gb] Date 02.06.05 08:24 UTC
That, Tohme, is evident from other threads.  What we can do is be supportive in encouraging board members to be open minded and NOT take everything at face value.
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 08:45 UTC
absolutely
- By Lindsay Date 02.06.05 08:47 UTC
Why do posts asking for help have to degenerate? For goodness's sake! I am fed up of a few people, the same ones,  making constant mockery of people they may happen to disagree with.

Do we really have to turn so many threads into a Melody and Chloe fun time? If you disagree, say so. You are entitled to. But don't go on and on and on about it.
You two really are the limit sometimes.

For the original poster -

In my view windy problems are not always due to a wrong diet, but if the dog is constantly, chronically  breaking wind then it would be wise to consider a change. A dog who may be prone to bloat such as a weim is not best, i believe, on a diet that may cause  chronic wind. the odd bit of wind caused by as Melody said, something specific may not be such a problem.

A dog who is windy constantly may not be comfortable either ;)
One thing you can try is lactobacillus acidophillus capsules from the health shop. Vets can also supply you with gut flora paste but it is very expensive. Try a dollop of natural yogurt  (bio yogurt) with each meal too. You will hopefully notice an improvement over a few weeks so don't give up at first. (You can give way over the recommended dose of capsules as they are harmless).

Lindsay
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- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 08:51 UTC
Erm...I don't think Chloe has actually posted in this thread Lindsay.

Apologies for having had a bit of fun on three threads over the past two days, I will s*d off and leave you to it.

Let me know when your SoH has been reinstated
- By Lindsay Date 02.06.05 09:01 UTC
My apologies to Chloe.

I see the 2 of you so often on here doing the same thing it is almost a given. However you will notice, i did say "threadS".

As for a SOH, maybe yours is a little overdone?

I do not take over threads for my amusement nor use a board for little giggles.

Idle chat is more appropriate for that, don't you think?

I enjoy a good laugh but I must be unusual, because mine is rarely if ever at the expense of others.

Lindsay
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 09:05 UTC
Sorry to have offended you, Lindsay. Next time I'll let a poster be made to worry that a dog with wind can have serious health problems, and not do anything to reassure them that it's actually very normal.
- By Lindsay Date 02.06.05 09:14 UTC
Don't be silly JG.

I have no argument with you. You know that.  You don't seem to enjoy the kind of board bullying that others do. What you said is your opinion and that's fair enough. It's the constant heckling and bullying and lack of empathy from other board members I so dislike.

Lindsay
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- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 09:16 UTC
Hold on Lindsay ...JG and I had a giggle on this particular thread and now you say that I am out of order and JG isn't?

:rolleyes:
- By tohme Date 02.06.05 12:35 UTC
Gosh again, nowhere do I see in anyone's post the words "a dog with wind can have serious health problems"

My eyesight MUST be going bad............
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 02.06.05 13:12 UTC
I'm sure your eyesight is fine, Tohme. It's just that sometimes we all word posts badly, and need others to clarify points.
:)
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 02.06.05 09:15 UTC
Where was my laugh at the expence of the OP? In fact, my last post was, I think, To say that the OP could try charcoal biscuits Lindsay.

Click on my name, check my posts and you will see that for the last 3 dyas I have been very active....had a bit of a laugh on two threads. Before that I have not posted very much for quite a while...I have been busy and life has overtaken me :)

I apologise profusely to both you AND the OP ...
- By Lindsay Date 02.06.05 09:27 UTC
I'm not sure what to say Mel.

I do feel very genuinely that constant mickey taking and working in tandem with others doesn't help the board and that is a totally genuine feeling. I'm being totally honest and not trying to be nasty. To clarify i've felt it for many months and have sat on my hands and tried to rub along. i'm not just referring to yourself but to the general way things turn sometimes, several  people (usually the same ones).

It's good of you to apologise, but I'm not sure that will help in the long term. To be fair i also am sure that there are board members who love such  threads. So, what to do? :)

Lindsay
- By keeley [gb] Date 02.06.05 09:30 UTC
Completely agree Lindsay
- By Lindsay Date 02.06.05 09:34 UTC
Well, to be honest, i'm off now anyway, I hope in a way this thread will be closed because it's not pleasant now although i am glad to have got things off my chest. Probably better done in a PM though but it's happened now.

Mel, not sure if you want to carry this on but i am open to dicussion via PM if you want to do so :)

Lindsay
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