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Topic Dog Boards / General / I want a Finnish Spitz
- By jennyls [gb] Date 26.05.05 20:37 UTC
Hi there,
I have been reading up about the breed and would like to get one for a pet. I do not wish to show it or breed from it.
I am finding it very hard to find anyone that can help me.
The only places Im having any luck is abroad and I dont want to put an aminal through the stress of quarenteen so am hoping someone in the Uk can help me.
I live in Hertfordshire, have a good size garden and live near a few fields. I have experience with dogs and the time and patience to train a puppy.
If anyone can help please contact me.
Thanks Jenny.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 26.05.05 20:48 UTC
Hi! If you contact the breed clubs listed at the bottom of the Breed Standard they should be happy to provide you with contacts for breeders. Good luck!
:)
- By jennyls [gb] Date 26.05.05 21:16 UTC
Thanks just done it. They are so hard to find.
- By ice_queen Date 26.05.05 20:49 UTC
Ooooh a Finnish Spitz!  Unfortantly have one without our family and it's nasty!  (Also in hertfordshire!) But then I know others that are soo lovely, but still noisy! :D

http://www.champdogs.co.uk/guided/hound_finnish-spitz_breeders.html      List of afew breeders
http://www.corsini.co.uk/cavill/toveri.htm                                              Well known breeders
http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/discoverdogs/hound/h777.htm              At the bottom is contacts for the two clubs in the UK.  Worth contacting for lists of breeders!

HTH Good luck in getting your puppy!

Edit : Was beaten on the last link!!!!!
- By jennyls [gb] Date 26.05.05 21:15 UTC
I have heard they can be a bit touchy coz there pack dogs but thats ok and I dont mind it chasing the odd cat.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 26.05.05 21:17 UTC
They are rather primitive and very independant and rather fizzy, but if socialised and treated calmly and firmly make lovely pets.  Be aware that they adore the sound of their own voices so barking needs to be discouraged where it may cause nuisance.  theya re after all the barking Bird dog :D
- By Brainless [gb] Date 26.05.05 21:08 UTC
I had a good freind who died five years ago and she had 20 of them and they were never nasty, a bit of a tendency to be scrappy in an all mouth and no trousers fashion.  Hers were very well behaved at shows ans she always took 3 dogs and 3 bitches loose together in the car without any problems.

There are very few bred each year, probably under 50 and the breed club secretaries will be able to put you in touch with any breeders who ahve or are plannign litters.
- By ice_queen Date 26.05.05 21:46 UTC
I have seen many nice ones around shows (although I can't stand being near the benching!!!!!)  It's just one thats in the family that I showed afew times is nasty.  She would snap at my setters who are extreamly subbmisive and couldn't be trusted with the little dachsies or the malamutes!!!!!!  She was really nasty and I never could 100% trust her, part of it I think is her up bringing, her sister seemed as nice as pie and so do many others around the ring, although just too noisy....head hurts thinking about the noise!!! :D

Chasing a cat should be discoraged Jenny!!!!  You don't want to be in trouble!
- By Trevor [gb] Date 27.05.05 05:04 UTC
Hope you have understanding neighbours - they are VERY noisy ( but personally I've never met a nasty one )

Yvonne
- By hanstrips [gb] Date 27.05.05 07:47 UTC
They are only very noisy if they are allowed to be! I agree around the benches it is very noisy but unfortunately that is because a few LET their dogs do it. There are a good section of us that do not allow them to yap all day. (Although beleive me it is difficult under benching circumstances.)

They have wonderful temperaments if raised properley and enough time is spent with them (Like any dog) teaching them what is and what isn't acceptable.
My house is on the edge of a council estate and my dogs make a LOT less noise than the kids round here and people don't even realise i have them until they meet us on a walk. (Then all the questions "is it a fox"?).

They are exceptionally clean animals, they can be swamp diving and withing 10 minutes of being home they are spotless again. (They clean themselves like cats). They are also very easy to housetrain. I have a litter of 8 weeks who are now completely clean in their pen overnight!!!

Nastiness is certainly not the norm. In fact i cannot think of any that i would class under that catergory.
An adult male stud dog can be feisty towards others of the same ilk but having said that i know of a number of breeders who have kept anything up to 9 males together!

Hannah
Who has lived with numerous dogs and find nothing quite compares to life with a Finnish Spitz.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.05.05 08:16 UTC
My freind Jean Seel had the best behaved dogs on the finkie benches because she took the care to ensure they were.  she lived out in the country and her dogs weren't very well socialised to crowds etc and often were rather overawed at their first shows, but soon setled, but she never let them get barky. 

She always took between four and six to a show.  We would all have a good walk first before going to the benches, and then she would stay wwith any new ones until they felt comfortable on the benches.  My own breed often becnched next to the finkies also has ahd a reoutaion for noisy dogs (a lot less now I think) but again it isonly a matter of training, and only needs one noisy dog to st some of the others off.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.05.05 08:28 UTC
Having travelled in the company of half a dozen of these red people with my grey ones I have found them charming and quite sensitive, so training is not that difficult in most areas except for the independance. 

Because of this and especially if living in country areas do not let them off lead as they could easily be shot as a fox.
- By northern pack Date 27.05.05 09:12 UTC
Hi Jenny,

Here you have a link to the "Home of The Finnish Spitz" http://www.spj.fi/uk/paasivu_uk.htm

By the way, there is not any quarantine for dogs coming from EU countries and under  the pet passport scheme.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.05.05 09:17 UTC
Yes but the dog would have to be a minimum of 10 months old to enter the UK. 

The breeder or someone else would have to be willing to bring the dog up for them for that length of time and it is likely to cost about the same as Quarantine. 

In both cases the new owner misses out on training the dog whilst a pup. 

In quarantine they can bond with it tthorugh regular visits, with Pet passport the dog can be socialised but the new owner won't really have any input except the odd visit.
- By northern pack Date 27.05.05 09:27 UTC
Sorry, nine months:

3. What has not changed from 3 July 2004
* To enter the UK without quarantine from a listed country, dogs and
cats still have to be microchipped, vaccinated against rabies and blood
tested. They must be at least 3 months old before being vaccinated.
* The 6 calendar month wait to enter or re-enter the UK from the date a
blood sample was taken that gave a satisfactory test result still applies.
Animals must not have been outside any of the listed countries in the
6 calendar months before entering the UK.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 27.05.05 10:34 UTC
That works out at 10 months! ;) The rabies jab is given at 3 months, the blood sample is taken a month after that (4 months) then if that's clear the animal can come in 6 months later (10 months).
:)
- By jennyls [gb] Date 27.05.05 11:22 UTC
Thanks.
I spoke to DEFRA and they said about 10 months old but not only will it cost a lot but its a llot of stress on the animal traveling so far. Im having better luck. I cant believe they are so rare. I had to pick that one.
- By northern pack Date 30.05.05 09:57 UTC
Jenny,
I've imported my dogs to "this far" from the UK and never noticed any of them having any kind of stress or anxiety during the ca. 3hrs flight! They just slept through the entire flight. I also know many dogs that have been imported here as cargo and the same applies to them - no stress or anxiety.

I think DEFRA is exaggerating a bit! :)
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