my papillon when he got to 1 years of age started being dirty in my home, then he started growling at me when i told him off, i had been so soft with him, took him to my vets he assured me it was male dominance over me then one night he snacked at me , i returned him to breeder by then he is 15 months old, i have not recieved any money back off breeder we fell out and have not heard from this lady again, i paid £450 for this dog. i was very attached to the dog as you can well imajine. Like to know your views as papillon breeders why this dog turned on me. Linda.

He was probably going through the usual teenage years thing ......it is part and parcel of owning a dog I'm afraid. You are responsible for guiding them through the awkward teenage times so produce a happy dog at the end of it. If I had been the breeder I wouldn't give any money back either, sorry :(

I have to agree.  Looks to me like you gave up on this dog too quickly.  Sorry :(

Sorry, but you'd had the dog for over a year before finding fault with him. Even inanimate objects generally only have a one-year guarantee! For living things it's much much less. To be honest, I'm not sure why you expect to get money back when someone is going to have to do a lot of work with the dog to rehabilitate him. If you were 'very attached to the dog' I'm surprised you'd just want to sell him back rather than retrain him yourself ...

Probably not what you wanted to hear. :(

I have to agree with all the other posters - it may not be what you wanted to hear, but the breeder has taken the dog back - s/he will have to evaluate him, arrange for retraining for him and make sure that he does find the correct "forever" home before he can go to another home - so she will incur quite a lot of expense.   In my experience, dogs which are rehomed are rehomed for a "nominal" amount - nothing like the £450 that you paid, and therefore there would be very, very little financial recompense.

I know that its not what you wanted to hear, but both you and the breeder have behaved responsibily - you in acknowledging to your breeder that you couldn't handle him, and your breeder in accepting her responsibilities and taking him back.

I hope that maybe you can look back at how this situation evolved, work out where you went wrong, and that sometime in the future, you will be able to have another dog.

Regards
Margot

Again have to agree with the others.  You started off with a puppy which is a clean page and you then had the romation of him and the responsibility to bring him up to be a well mannered dog.  You found this too much and the breeder will now have to rehabilitate him.  then find someone wiling to take on what would in effect soiled goods.  He would have little if any resale value, so you shouldn't expect anything back for him, as it is the breeder who is incurring aditional cost not to mention trouble.

I have had puppies back and rehomed them free of chartge for the willingness of the new owner to take on the trouble of retraining the hooligan teenager.  I ahve also on occasion acted as go between with a younger dog under 12 months old where the new owners were happy to pay the old owners something (a lot less than half price).

This is so sad.  My heart goes out to the little guy/gal.  I hope there is a loving family found for him/her soon, and that this poster thinks long and hard before EVER considering pet ownership EVER AGAIN

That is a little hard vicki, sometimes people just aren't cut out for dog ownership at the particular time not ahving the skills needed or circumstances conspire against tehm making it work.  they often leran from their mistakes and make a better more informed job of it a nother time.

We all know it is much harder to retrain a dog from bad habits than to train it properly first time around, perhaps this poster just wasn't expereinced enough to fix the mistaes made early on.

I have to disagree with you on this one.  Surely everyone knows that keeping a dog involves walking a dog (in whatever weather), toilet training, etc.  These are basic points which even children know.

you couldnt of been that atched to the little guy or you would never of given up on him.probably for the best tho coz atleast now hele find a forever home. :(

To be fair I think that sometimes the 'mad Kevin ' stage just takes new dog owners by surprise. they seem prepared to tackle the puppy stage but then think that their dog should be all grown up mentally because it LOOKS grown up physically ( particularly true with a toy breed).

A Papillon is a bright wee breed that will out think it's owner if it can - I think this post just highlights how important it is to really research the breed you are interested in getting and USE the support of the breeder to help you over this difficult stage. Any good breeder will be happy to talk to owners of their dogs and give help and advice where they can - sometimes this is all that is needed to prevent sad cases such as this.

Yvonne

well how horrid, you say you were attached to your dog, but take him back the minute he causes you a problem, i would never dream of "taking my dogs back" as you put it, what ever problems arose you have to work through them

I think its commendable  that the breeder took him back wish more breeders were commited like that, I am sure she/he will do the best for the dog
and imagine monetry issues being mentioned by someone after a year of ownership :( :(

Sorry but i am on the breeders side.I am not in Paps but have friends that are and also i have another Toy Breed and if you are not prepared to put the work in then maybe you should not have any dog at all.I am a foster mum for a Toy Breed and we get allsorts into rescue and one of the main reasons is the dogs are not House-Trained well sorry but they usually are within a couple of weeks at my house.Also we get the grumbly and growly ones and there is usually a damn good reason for this behaviour. I know that i certainly would not give up on a dog for this silly reason.I would try to do something about it.I would firstly look at how  the training was proceeding and if what i as doing was not working then i would try a different way.

Sorry meant to add if you were that attached then the money should not be an issue. All you should be worried about is the dogs welfare and that he eventually gets the home he deserves.