Can anyone help?

Who has *ownership* of photographs once they have been posted on a public forum ?

The person who took the photograph - if it was a commerical photographer, the law changed some years ago to say the photographers and not the person who commisioned the photograph retains copyright.

So if I took a photograph for example then I would still have the legal ownership to that photograph and I could request its removal from a site? Even if there is a gobbledygook disclaimer on the site?

yes Lel, you can insist they remove it. But how did they get it in the 1st place?

The original photographer :)

does anyone have a link to the legislation/copyright laws etc for this please :)

Try this:

Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (c. 48)

thankyou everyone who has replied on the board and by PM :)

Its much appreciated

What about a site that's got an absolutely terrible picture of your dog and is promoting your breed, or not promoting it, is there anything that can be done?

if its your picture that you took -then its yours -if its a picture by a profesional then its theres -if a picture has been lifted then I'm sure its copyright theft -ask Sam -she will know better ;)

Slightly different question on same theme.

Where do you stand if someone takes a picture of you and your dog using your camera - is it their copyright because they actually took the picture, yours because you own dog and camera and requested they take the picture or no-ones?

Interesting question ;)

I'd have thought the owner of the negative (or the memory card!) would have copyright of the photo.

The owner of the camera owns the copyright regardless who took the picture and regardless what the picture is.  ( except where the camera has been on contractual loan)  this is where the very grey area comes in.

not entirely 100% Blue. if you are a staff photographer then the © is owned by the comapny you work for. i sometimes hire photographers for events where I need help & althought they are using their own bodies/lenses I retain full © of all the images.

Yip agree 100% :-)  that is what I Said :-)  I used the "on contractual loan"  wording.  When you work for someone this is the contractual loan I am talking about.. or an example of it.. :-))  You must have it in writing though for it to be legal  or at least common practice in this field where the legal system would see it as " implied" ownership.  it is the same with reporters etc their work if contractually done becomes the work of the paper/magazine etc.

if this is done contractually it is different to Joe Bloggs at the dog show using his own camera.   When things are not done contractual it naturally follows the normal legal ownership rules. 

That is one of the reasons I always tell people that nothing is just straight forward black and white.. and you have to know the whole story :-)

If your photos are stored on Photobucket etc. all you have to do is delete them from there, then every website they are posted on they will be deleted also.

Not strictly true..... IF they are just posted by linking to the picture at photobuckets hosting, yes, if the pictures have been saved and hosted elsewhere, then no.

Em

I have posted pictures on different websites and when photobucket is down the pictures can't be viewed on the sites I posted, you just get the dreaded red X, so wouldn't it be the same if you deleted your photos from Photobucket??

If someone copies the pictures off the photo bucket when it is working then they still willhave them.

I was laughing at the weekend about photos and the net.

I took a really good picture of a dog at Crufts. Posted it to a couple of people via e-mail. I was at the dog owners house at the weekend and told her I will need to give her this pic as it is really good. Out the corner of my eye I spot a picture similar, when I got closer , it was my picture. It had been forwarded to her anyway. Someone did kindly put my name on it though. :-))

Most of the time people mean no harm you just have to watch companies, and people using other dogs on their own sites.

Blueeeeeeee......© © © PLEASE!!!!! :(
Sorry its my bug bear :)..and my living at stake....I get mad when folk treat © as unimportant :(

Sorry Sam I do  know what you mean , I didn't mean to dismiss the importance of it ...  ( Just whacked myself with a BIG stick :-D)

>>>If your photos are stored on Photobucket etc. all you have to do is delete them from there, then every website they are posted on they will be deleted also. <<

Ive deleted pics from photobucket- they have disappeared from the site but some show up when doing a google image search :(

( Just whacked myself with a BIG stick )

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I have yet another query on this subject :)

If someone takes a photo and asks you to edit it - for instance remove the handler or set in a different background - and this takes some time to do can you claim copyright to the edited photo?   I have done this a few times recently for people and wondered about it.

Christine you are digging the questions up aren't you ;-)

I think the right stays with the owner BUT there are some changes to Copyright law and ownership taken into consideration modern technology.  I am going to have a read up on when I get a spare min.

Some people give their right away and don't know it. Do you remember the carry on if you had pics printed on Kodak paper.. jezzzz did that get messing if I remember rightly.