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Ok, i'm new to owning male dogs. I have two bitches but murphy (11 months) is the first male i have owned, and he is still entire. My question is this, is it normal for a male dog to be obsessed with sniffing the back end of every dgo that he meets, male or female (neutered or entire it doesn't matter to him) even if they show then don't like it? Its not just your normal greeting, he will follow them around for hours with his nose in their back end and won't stop when i tell him to. I als ofind that alot of dogs (mainly male i think) will square up to him, and growl even if he is just walking past. Is this becuase they are putting him in his place as he is a young adolescent male? He is a rescue dog and we don't really know how much contact he has had with other dogs. He is a little unsure of them but apart from barking occaisionally he is not aggressive.
By digger
Date 30.04.05 20:04 UTC
Its quite normal for his age - s.e.x is the only thing on their minds at this age - like most teenagers ;)

LOL Too true & if you have male cavaliers & a female GSD like us the interesting bit is just at the right level ;) :O
So is this something they just go through and stop or is this a male dog thing forever? Does castration help something like this? (Obviously that wouldn't be the only reason for castration, he is a rescue dog and part of the contract was castration, i was just wondering if it makes a differnce.)
TBH i don't know how you manage. Last weekend ellie had an infected lump on her foot which was sending signals out to murphy that she was in season (god knows why - shes spayed by the way) That was the most difficult weekend i think we've ever had. Trying to keep them seperate, enduring the whining e.t.c. how do these breeders manage?!

They will grow out of it, and often castrating too early can prolong this immature stage, and in other cases they setle a few months after castrating (but they probavbly would have anyway). At puperty the males testosterone levels are around five times that of an adult, which is why adolescent males of any species are like this, but maturity will resolve most of it.

Most liker me opt to keep one or other sex unless they have facilities to keep them totally seperate.
By kerrie
Date 01.05.05 21:51 UTC
lol digger i resent that quote im 17 and i dont think about s.e.x all the time :D
but then again ...... ill shut up now lol

LOLOL but are you a male teenager ?????:O
By frodo
Date 01.05.05 23:55 UTC
I hate running into entire male dogs,i can tell wether theyve been neutered with in a couple seconds,if they havnt been done they usualy have their noses firmly shoved up my girls backside and will not leave her alone,she absolutely hates it and the owners are usually powerless to stop them :( These dogs really wreck our walks

This happens from entire males of ALL ages IME,not just the pups!
By digger
Date 02.05.05 06:43 UTC
Is you bitch entire Frodo?
PS - apologies to those teenagers who don't think about s.e.x. ALL off the time, I suppose 2 % has to be spent thinking about what to wear ;)
One of my collies is entire but he doesn't stick his nose where it is not wanted and he is only 11 months! Mind you, he is not allowed to approach other dogs as and when he likes anyway but even with the dogs/bitches he knows well he doesn't do it. The only 'entire male' thing he does is scent marking, although only outside, and bitching, which I don't like but as I have only had him less than 3 months I am working on discouraging that.
I think you find it depends entirely (excuse pun!) on the dog. I know lots of males, some castrated, some entire, and they are all different. As others have said it may go away as he matures but then again it may not. If it is not driving everyone too mad, I would leave it a while and see what happens. If it is getting too much, castrate him. If you are not going to breed from him it wont do any harm and might make him easier to live with.
Sorry I can't be more help. :-) Hope everything works out for you.
By frodo
Date 02.05.05 11:23 UTC
Hi Digger :)
Yes my female is spayed and my male is neutered.It is so weird if an entire male comes along,he will try to hump or stick his head up her butt without fail :( Does anyone have any theories on WHY?
I have never had another male try it on with my boy,i dread to think what he would do if another male tried :o
As i said they were both desexed at 6mths. :)
My dogs seem to be the opposite of the "norm: stated here,there was no prolonged puppyhood,no sexual confusion,no incontinence,absolutely no negatives from getting my dogs done at this age,past or present (touch wood ;) )
The entire males i have met have put me off of EVER having one,i sure would like to meet one who wasnt driven by his sexual urges 24/7,infact i would like to meet a man like that aswell,LOL :D

I am interested frondo in how many mature entire dogs you have known. You may not notice prolonged pupyhood or immaturoty compared to the norm if you haven't lived with normal if you see what I mean ??? :D :D
By frodo
Date 02.05.05 13:01 UTC
Hi Brainless,
My brother has 2 entire Adult males(brothers) and a spayed female,they are no different or better than any of the others i have met on my walks :(
Seeing my boy has convinced him to get his dogs done,finally!
I'm not sure if i understand your question correctly,hope i answered it for you?? :)

No what I ameant was have you lived with enture bit and seen how they mature mentally and how this is different to the ones spayed young. this is certainly the case with m y own bitches and several early spayed ones that I know well and stay with me so that I realy do know them.
You say your bitches do not seem immature, but have you had entire mature bitches (3 or 4 years plus in age) that you have lived with to be able to compare. :D
By Anna
Date 02.05.05 08:26 UTC

I know how you feel Frodo, I hate meeting entire males on our walks as well because they jump on our dog within seconds of meeting because he has been castrated. Walking is a nightmare since he was done I am constantly on edge in case we meet an entire male and I can't get it off my dog because he won't growl at them and just lets them do as they please and the owners sometimes just walk off and say that their dog will follow when its ready, it really is a pain. :-(
I think I would have a few polite, ahem, words with those owners Anna! ;-)

That is interesting I never have problems with my girls, but they are all entire or were fully mature when they were spayed, so they know how to give the brash boys the look that says 'any more than polite sniff and your for it'.
Also interestingsly enough if it is a young male who is amorous it is the spayed bitches he is more interested in, whereas the entire boys (especially expereinced ones like the stud males met at shows) just give a quick check to the entire girls.
The sex hormones do apear to give both sexes the rigth smell and also confidence to keep relations when meeting others of their own kind reacting appropriately whereas neutering especially very young males seems to cause confusion.
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