Hi,
Are there any breeders of maltipoos in the UK because I can't find any anywhere!!! Please get in touch on voorhees206@yahoo.co.uk if you know of any, any info is much appreciated.
Thanx

John is the one to ask about things related to malt, but he hasn't been posting lately :-)

Jo and the Casblaidd Flatcoats

ROFLMSO JG

maltipoos - surely this is a wind up

Sadly not. :(

Well I know what malt is, and I know what poos are........ alcoholic poos???  Don't think I'd want one of those.

guest, the reason you can't find a breeder of a "multipoo" is that there is no such breed, it is a cross breed and you will find masses of cross breeds in rescue, but very few dog lovers would deliberately breed crosses.

:D :D @ Jo

Lucy
xx

if you want a maltipoo wait a few months and once the fashionable status is gone I can assure you there will be lots at your local animal rescue, poor things :(

Hey i was only asking theres no need to be so harsh ffs i didnt know any of this i'd just seen some pics of them n thought they were cute. Theres no need to make me look so evil

The reason most people have posted on this thread is to show up the silliness of giving a cross a cutesy name by unscrupulous so called breeders, in order to exploit gullible folk who are easily parted with their monay at the expense of the dogs themselves and the reputation of dog breeders in general. 

Those breeders who nurture and care for their breeds and only breed pups that have the best chance of being typical sound examples of their breede (with a higher chance than the other sort of making a great pet), hate being lumped together in the public prception with these puppy farmers, and anything encouraging this trade makes their blood rise :D

It isn't anything personal, as thes posts get picked up on search engines and the more people who red them and realise this is wrong/unethical maybe it will be one less litter breed for exploitation only.

On another issue, I bet all the pictures you saw were of puppies???  That is because puppies resemble all other puppies when small, so that way the litter can look to a casula observer like a breed by being fairly uniform.  You won't see pictures of adults as for a start the millers don't keep them, but there isn't one that would be typical.

Some will be curly some straight some moutl some won't some witll be long and low like one parent others leggy l;ike theother etc etc, in otherwords crossbreees which can be found in any rescue fro just a donation, not such a good seling poin, huh????

Hi voors
I don't think anyone meant you to look evil, but the trade that supplies these currently fashionable crosses with stupid, catchy names IS evil, and there will never be any support for such breeding practices from people who genuinely care about dogs.  I don't think it was meant against you personally. 
Can I just add one more thing - and please don't take this the wrong way.  If you are looking for a canine companion, whilst we are all attracted to a certain 'look', it is very important to research the breed of dog you think you would like, check it's character and requirements first,  to see if it will suit your home and environment.  This is much more important than looks.

This is very true.  It is OK to make an initial selection based on what appeals to you, but then the hard work of researching the character and other prcatical considerations to ensure a good match between the owners and dogs needs.

A good example are two breeds that look very alike but that are very different in character, such as the Leonberger and the Estrela Mountain Dog.  One is definately a laid back companion, the other a typical flock guard.

i think they are cute too! good luck with your search,make sure you dont buy from a puppy farmer/pet shop etc

Michelled...NO REPUTABLE  breeder is going to breed these dogs!!!They are a designer cross bred to make money! so the ONLY place the op is going to get one is a puppy farm,pet shop or money grabbing idiot.

VOORS
I'm sorry if some of the replies to your question have offended.Most were meant as a light hearted joke and not directed at you.It can be very hard when the same type of question is asked over and over again and at times its easier to have a giggle than to get frustrated and angry.The pups you are searching for are a cross breed that is bred by idiots who think nothing of the dogs or the poor unsuspecting people who buy them.
Buying a pup is all about RESEARCH.Finding a recognised breed that suits your lifestyle and then finding a reputable breeder who health tests,KC registers and life long support.This dog will hopefully be with you for many many years and the wait will be worth it.
The sad thing is that you will probably pay MORE for one of these designer cross breeds than for a well bred registered pedigree whos parents have been health tested!!!
If you are still around come back and tell us what you require from a dog....size? activity levels etc and we will try to help
Archer

IN YOUR OPINION ARCHER. which i dissagree with,if thats ok. im not getting into this again

No Michelled...its everyones opinion...APART FROM YOURS!

yes i know that! thanks for pionting it out. dosent mean that mine is wrong though just different

Sorry Archer but it is not just Michelles opinion, and why do you have to be so nasty? It really isn't necessary, do you enjoy offending people? There are ways and means of saying things. If you have no good advice, which is what the OP is after then don't answer the thread.

Tigerlily

Archer isn't being nasty:  it is a fact that this may be a "cute-looking" puppy - but that is absolutely NO reason to produce such an ill-matched crossbred mongrel - because that is what it would be.

This has always been a straight-talking, no-nonsense dog forum - it doesne't need to become a "cute fluffy one".

Margot

I am not saying that, and I agree with what Archer is getting at but I do think it can be written a bit better thats all. There is no need to be nasty with anyone. :-)

I agree, people often say things on this board I disagree with ;) but while I think it is perfectly acceptable to say you disagree and offer a rationale as to why you disagree it is not accetable to be rude and simply say they are in the wrong particularly on matters of a subjective nature.

Tigerlilly
Yes...maybe I shouldn't have been so 'sharp' BUT then I don't agree with deliberately breeding unhealth tested cross breeds simply to make money from the poor misguided public and when people suggest that its ok it gets my back up.There are far tooooo many mongrels and cross breeds (and yes also pedigrees) in rescue.Pedigrees should be bred with the utmost care from health tested parents by people who are willing to provide suitable after care.Crosses should not be bred deliberatley at all unless for a working purpose.
Its not only the fact that I disagree with Michelled...she has given the op a suggestion that it is ok for people to breed these crosses and that there are reputable breeders doing so...which as we all know is totally untrue!!!
....Archer

I am not getting at peoples opinions on here and who is right and wrong etc, I am just stating that people should word their posts a little nicer for everyones benefit. You admitted yourself you were a bit "sharp", so I hope people will think before typing whatever their opinion. I don't like arguing and I would get upset if someone spoke to me like that. Making fun of posters is not very nice either, it may be a long running joke on here with the regulars but the visitors have no idea. I agree thay need to be put in the picture, but in a nicer way that's all. Everyone has to learn somewhere and just be thankfull they have come on here first rather than go out and buy one on a whim, you all have alot of really good advice which doesn't come over very well when put in a sharp way. Again this is just my opinion.

You are right really tigerlilly, though it is hard to bit5e your tongue (typing fingers) sometimes :D

:-D I can understand that Brainless, especially as everyone has such passion for their breed etc. I may be over sensitive but I really feel there is no need for it sometimes when the advice could be worded just slightly differently. Thanks :-)

Everyone has there own opinion and I for one am trying to respect that and get different perspectives...we've all come to blows in the past with someone or other but isn't it time that we spread the hand of friendship and stop antagonizing each other....

Im having a Jerry Springer moment :D

We don;t live in a perfect world, there are always going to be bad breeders and bad owners but by coming on a forum like this is a step in the right direction seeking advice and trying to do the best that you can. Don't jump down each others throats, I've been guilty but I've been born again! :)

LOL @ "Im having a Jerry Springer moment" No fighting please, especially no hair pulling :-D

get OVER yourself! READ what i say!!!!
i SAID dont go to a "puppy farmer" or a pet shop. there MAY be breeders of this X in this country. HOW do we KNOW? because they sure arent going vto come on here are they?????
if people want to BREED any X & do it WELL then GOOD luck to them!!!!!

Oh and of course they are going to health test and breed to a ficticious breed standard...yep you're dead right there probably ARE breeders in this country...same as there are breeders of labradoodles,pugaliers etc etc ....the problem is there are no REPUTABLE breeders
How do you breed a cross well???? They're hardly going to use the best breed examples are they...the same as they won't health test cos the 'cross breeds' have 'highbrid vigour'......or thats what they tell the poor unsuspecting people who go to buy than at horrendously over inflated prices!
Archer

not the ones i know, they do health test.why wouldnt they? they love their mixed breed as much as you love your breed.

Which cross breeds and which health tests??
Archer

labardoodles & golden doodles for a start.

Michelle - can you tell me what labradoodles and goldendoodles are tested for?    Where are the results of these tests stored and collated?

What are the "breed" mean scores?   Is any allowance made for the different scores from the background breeds?    Are they recognized by a Breed Standard Group?

I really would like to know! :)

Margot

The parents may be tested but are the offspring tested when they are bred from ? I know a"breeder"of these crossbreeds who sadly produced second generation mongrels that have SA because the Standard Poodle used in the original cross carries SA & his lines have a lot of known SA carriers. Quite a few of her first crosses have PRA in one or both eyes & HD. these designer X breeds are not bred because they produce non shedding offspring, but simply for the money. Because resonsible owners will not let their dogs be used to produce mongrels she bought in a "stud"Standard poodle & breeds him to all her bitches regardless of whether he is a relative & she slao breeds brother & sister to fix her "type" She is now thinking of buying a Lab dog puppy so that she can bring in new blood & try to get different colours as different colours result in higher payents for puppies

any "breed" parents will be tested for whatever labs/goldies /s.poodles are normally tested for. these tests would clearly be recorded in the usual way,with BVA/KC & on the dogs papers. hips/eyes/skin probs etc
the Xs can be tested for anything breed dogs can thses will be recorded on the activites reg/BVA as XBS.
& would show up on any papers that anyone has exactly like a pure breed.

im far from a expert lokis mum!on the ins & outs of standards eyc as i have NO DESIRE to own one.
but i do object to people i know been labelled irressponsible when they are not. people i know respect & admire.
if you saw her LDS,if you saw her LD show/renoiun each year, the uniformity in type. then you might not change your mind but i feel you may see my pov

As I understand it, you know one person with one cross - am I correct?    That one dog may be absolutely WONDERFUL!!!    I know many mongrels who are wonderful, and absolutely unique - and that is precisely that - unique IS unique (means one of a kind).    They cannot be reproduced exactly.   

However, having gone to the expense and trouble of health checking my dog, why one earth would I go to the trouble of finding a dog of a different breed, whose owner has also gone to the expense and trouble of health checking their dog???   How easy is it going to be to find out what points I should need to look at in a different breed that would enhance points that needed enhancing in my breed?    I am studying temperament in my own breed, so am learning which lines are better working, which are better showing, which are more laid-back, etc.    Should I be doing the same with another breed too?   That is what responsible breeding is.   It's not just "meeting a market need".  

Margot

no ,i know a person that breeds LDs to a reconisable type. more reconisable that ALOT of the lasbs & ESS that we see around here. ive wriitten a post called where i live that explains my feelings. im so upset with people implying that im lying.

correct me if im wrong margot,aussies were "created" i think? at some point along time ago

Yes, Michelle, like most dogs, the Aussie is the result of crosses in the late 1880s/90s, of herding dogs that arrived in the western states of the US with the sheep herders that came from Australia.  They were soon recognized as valuable working/herding dogs, and records were soon kept of who bred what to who, etc etc etc.  This creates a pedigree.  

Most of our Aussies can be traced back to the Flintridge lines - with paper recorded from the 1960s, recognised by the AKA and ASCA in the 70s (I think - I'm at work, so I'm not able to verify this date).   I know the Aussie is a recent "import" into the UK, but we can all trace our pedigrees back to these original dogs..   

This is the difference between random cross-breeding and pedigree breeding.  

Margot

Why cant I get my reply in the place I wantit? See my post re "hybrid vigour" on page 2

i don6t agree with xing to make money archer OR even breeding ANY breed to make money.

Michelled - Have you ever wondered how many of the dogs in rescue centres are there because they looked cute when they were bought as puppies but the cuteness/novelty wore off?

Hi Voors,
Please dont let a couple of replies you didnt like put you off of coming back.

I'm sure we can all help you come up with a breed similar to a malti poo, but a pure bred,health tested good specimen of the breed.

Malti poo's etc. almost always come from puppy farmers who couldnt care less what happens to their pups after the money has changed hands,they put any old dogs together wether they have genetic diseases or not,the only thing that matters to them is making money and churning out as many pups as they can. Think of the poor females these pups come from,they would get the least amount of care possible,she would be bred from at every season,she would lead a miserable exsistence. Do you really want to give your money to someone who has such little regard for their dogs??
If people wouldnt buy these pups then these so called breeders would go out of business quick smart.

Think yourself lucky that the above posters took the time to warn you about what could happen!

I agree Frodo, but they should really word their posts a bit nicer as not to offend the OPs, don't you agree?

in ALL breeds fillis. i own a rescue thanks she had 4 homes before i had her.

Yes, in all breeds - that is why looking cute is not the basis of buying any dog. All puppies look cute. I would have thought that with the experience you have of your dog you would not post as though you approve of "breeders" exploiting people looking for a dog.  

<<<<<<<<<<Yes, in all breeds - that is why looking cute is not the basis of buying any dog. All puppies look cute. I would have thought that with the experience you have of your dog you would not post as though you approve of "breeders" exploiting people looking for a dog.>>>>>>>>

Exactly Fillis...we need to promote buying from reputable breeders who health test and research and who offer life time support..not money grabbing idiots who use dogs as a tool to make a profit
Archer    

hi, i dint wanna start a war between ya. I didn't realise these dogs were bred in the wrong conditions n stuff. to be honest i 1st saw the dogs on tv jessica simpson has one and i liked the look ok them so i looked into getting one. I have a staffy at the moment and he is my baby, i wouldn't let anyone hurt him so i can understand why alot of you got defensive, it just really came across as a personal attack to begin with n made me feel a total bitch.

Hi Voors,

>i can understand why alot of you got defensive, it just really came across as a personal attack to begin with n made me feel a total bitch<

Please don't feel like that ;)  tempers get a little frayed on here at times because we're all animal lovers and people who breed dogs for all the wrong reasons do the animals no good - hence strength of feelings runs high.  No-one intended to personally offend or upset you.  Glad you've joined the forum :) and don't be put off by the odd set-to!  We just all dust ourselves off and start again :P

Regards, Teri