Does anyone know of a breeder who has Jack Russell/ Border Terrier Cross Pups? Email me at profoundly11@yahoo.co.uk

Why would you want a cross of such differing type and temperament?

they have plenty of crosses in the rescue centres!

I dont know where your based but there are some advertised on welland valley feeds. If you put a search on the net for welland valley feed you should be able to find it. There in Leics

I think that this a nice cross, not everyone can afford expensive pedigree dogs . Alot of people I know have crosses and they are perfectly nice dogs. Being a pedigree doesn't guarantee a dog to not end in in rescue !

The initiall outlay is only a very small part of owning a dog, but there is a difference between owning a cross breed because 'accidents happen' and actively going out to cross two very different types of dog because somebody thinks it will make a nice cross.  No, pedigrees don't guarantee a dog won't end up in rescue - but I think you'll find the majority of rescue kennels are full of cross breeds rather than pure bred dogs.......

Hi Whispersmum,

What Digger has said is very true :(

>not everyone can afford expensive pedigree dogs<

True, but some of the "designer crosses" are in reality considerably more expensive than many well bred KC registered healthy pedigree puppies who come complete with the life time back-up of a caring and knowledgable breeder  -  and you can't begin to put a price on that :)

Regards, Teri  

Also pedigree dogs have specific rescues for them, it's not fair really to cross breesds, over generations and generations people have bred these dogs for certain temperaments and characturistics just to be ruined by someones stupity just because they are seeing pound signs at the end of the day they wont have you in there thoughts when something happens to that dogs health,and then the person who bred them wont be anywhere.  It causes to much heart break trust me i know 

I understand what your all saying but there are puppies of this and other cross breeds out there looking for homes. So what should we do not buy and home these puppies? Its not there fault they have been breed.

The trouble is that when breeders of deliberate X breeds sell a litter it means they are encouraged to do the same again next season

There are people who regularly have"accidental"litters in pedigree dogs this title"accidental" usually involves an untested under or over aged bitch(& in some breeds like cavaliers the dog as well)having a litter to another dog of the same breed in the same hh

Dezyismum - are you aware of the phenomenon called 'Puppy farms' or 'back yard breeders'?  Would you buy a puppy from them?  All they are interested in is the money - you buy a puppy from them, and they will produce another to fill the space - the majority of these pups come from untested, unhealthy breeding stock, most importantly they have very little socialisation, which in turn can make for major problems when asking the pup to live with a family, because they simply aren't used to domestic situations - they make poor pets, and are often handed in to rescues because they 'can't be left' or because they have serious health problems the owner can't afford to treat - all because they owners didn't investigate what breeding a good healthy puppy entails and were happy to part with their hard earned cash because the puppy looks sweet - that is what Mother Nature (maybe with a little help from mankind) designed ALL puppies to do - a well breed, socialised pedigree puppy will probably cost less in the long run!

this is a REALLY common cross in the countryside for terriers. there are loads been bred. terrier men breed them. they are not puppy farmers. they are men with GENRATIONS of experince.

There are more terriers on the endangered list than any other group. There is already a PROPER terrier breed for any work needed to be done by a terrier.

well maybe the terrier men dont know what they are doing?
why would they want to improve them if there is a perfect one?

Depends what you mean by a perfect one, but there is no need to cross breed in the pretence that it will make a better worker - that is down to the job to be done and the training given.

I think people need to remember that ALL pedigree dogs were crosses at some point in time and people have been crossing dogs for thousands of years. I DO NOT agree with puppy farms, or crosses that are just stupid,but why should responsible people who cross get persecuted.I don't think that crossing a jack with a border is that badder cross, but i do think that people who are breeding these dogs shold prove them in the job thier bredfor. Do people object to lurchers, who are crosses of various breeds but they all do a job.

Temperametn of borders and Jacks with other dogs is usualy quite differenet and i prefer one to the other :D  Also what most people call Jack Russels are a short legged Terrier where as Borders are normal legged.  So which are the pups going to be and how will you know?

Hi Fillis.
What do you think Lurchers are?  CROSSBREEDS!!  bred with a specific job in mind, breeds crossed with eachother to perfect that job.
Dawn.

I know what lurchers are, but I have always been unsure what job they do that cannot be done by another breed. Perhaps you can tell me.

They do many jobs fillis.  The Greyhound side of them is the speed they require to catch Hares etc...  using a bit of Collie, will help with obedience, coming back and retrieving that Hare.  Some use Bull terriers with Greyhounds, this will be for catching Foxes (not allowed now) a stronger more powerful jaw will do a quicker more efficient job.  Lots of crosses, depends what you want from your dog.
Dawn.

Well from that description it seems (in my opinion) that the lurcher was "invented" for one dog to perform the task of many. I certainly dont see how a hound/pastoral cross can make a retriever. I still fail to see why a lurcher is required apart from the thrill of watching the chase. Terriers are used for vermin control and they will do it effectively, though without the spectator side. Hounds will chase down and kill hares, foxes etc. So I am afraid I still do not think that lurchers are "necessary" and the thought of a greyhound crossed with a bull terrier and the problems that could arise in giving birth makes me shudder.

I certainly dont see how a hound/pastoral cross can make a retriever.

Well you did say you didn't understand.  Go along to a game fair, I gurantee you your eyes will be opened.  By the way I have Border Terriers, one is an incredible scent dog, another is a first class Retriever, not at all like a Terrier eh?  Furthermore, your description stating "inventing dogs to perform the task of many"  EXACTLY.  Thats the whole point, one dog to outrun, catch, retireve, job done!  Same with other jobs.  Take my Border, if I go shooting, should I get a Lab?  why?  this dog will sit at my side, wait quietly, mark shot game, then retrieve back to me, she's not a cross breed, but highlights the way in which ome breeds CAN perform the jobs of others, hence your statement that pastoral/hound crosses cant make retrievers.
Dawn.

I pick up with my labs on a local shoot, on this one day a  partridge went down in a hedge quite away from where we were standing, My dog didn't see it to mark and when i sent him he took so long looking for it that a friends jack russell decided to show him how it was done, the little dog trotted off went in the hedge, picked the bird and retrieved it to hand, not a feather out of place, just shows that some dogs can do jobs that they weren't bred for.

I'm sure the terrier men know exactly what they're doing. I doubt very much that they're trying to get gentle, fireside pets - I'm hoping it's because they want a good, sharp, working terrier to fulfil a job of work. As such they're not likely to be suitable as pets in a purely domestic situation.
:)

well they do sell them! i guess they just keep the most suitable,like anyother breeder ;)

But thats when we get back to the problem of what happens to the ones not used for working and how many may end up in the rescue centres if they are not suitable as pets.

i know a couple as pets,but are allowed to live out their terrier urges!!!

the problem is when people buy a terrier & expect it to be a lap dog

Yes of course i know what a puppy farm is and in no way what so ever would i support this kind of breeding. The guest enquired if there were any jack rusell x borders for sale they did not ask for a poorly bred puppy from a puppy farm. I have a pure bred Border that came from a very reputable breeder and she is wonderful in every way. I also have a friend with 2 jack x borders who are also lovely dogs. Surley anyone buying any kind of terreir be it a pure bred or a cross will have reserched enough to know they are not idle lap dogs!
The guest would have to make up his/her own mind when viewing the puppy to see if both parents can be seen in good health etc i dont see why it would be any different viewing a cross puppy than a pure bred. Puppy farmers breed a lot more  pure bred dogs than cross breeds as they are worth more money to sell.

puppy farms usually sell dogs for cheaper as people are more inclined to think they are getting the same dog for cheaper, also the average layman thinks that people who are called breeders are the ones to be weary of and the puppy farmers use this to their advantage posting as home bred puppies in local papers with delivery possible

i dont why i have put this reply here reading back over the post it looks totally stupid i must have been reading something what weren't there ha ha ha ha

Well i did read it more than once and still couldnt make it out!! Oh well we all have those kinda days!!

i seem to be having far to many