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- By Guest [gb] Date 07.04.05 08:03 UTC
Hi, thank you for your reply. I have tried to join but its not letting me log in. My girl did ring craft for over 1 year but was teriffied of all the dogs and is very funny around men. We did eneter her for the september 2004 open show but she was so nervous and teerrified that i didnt think it fair to put her through it any more. Her mother and father are multi- champions, and the stud breeder of my girl has shown huskies for 15 years and says she is an excellent example but could be a little taller although she does reach the minimum height. But thats her opinion as she just preferes the chunkier taller huskies, where as mine is very petite. I have asked her opinion on stud procedures and she says that every one will ahve differnt requiremnets regarding arrangements etc, but that she wouldn't be happy letting a bitch stay for 5 days with a stranger, my sentiments exactly. I could have used her stud its just both are closely related so that isn't an option as i want new bloodine.

All stud's have had health checks and hips all below 7, one dog has hip score 0/0, and all have had yearly eye tests, all clear for hg and c.  Two are working dogs and the other is from show lines but is not shown or worked. Pls believe me when i say i have looked into this, its just when you get people telling you different days regarding mating, length of stay, its justs o confusing and i want to get this right.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 07.04.05 08:58 UTC
What does the standard say about temperament? I'd be concerned about breeding from a bitch who was terrified of dogs and men.
- By sibernut [gb] Date 07.04.05 09:19 UTC
if you would like to email me maybe I can help. We have had sibes for over 11 years now.
Terry
- By sibernut [gb] Date 07.04.05 09:22 UTC
Sorry just noticed your other posting and you have said that your breeder has moved to spain. has your girl got any endorsements on her kc papers?
Cheers
Terry. dreamcatcher
- By archer [gb] Date 07.04.05 09:40 UTC
I'm sorry but temperament is as important as conformation,health tests and blood lines so a bitch who is a nervous as yours should NOT BE BRED
Archer
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 07.04.05 10:09 UTC
I've just looked at the Sibe standard, and temperament is described as follows:

"Temperament
Friendly and gentle, alert and outgoing. Does not display traits of the guard dog, not suspicious with strangers or aggressive with dogs but some measure of reserve expected in mature dog. Intelligent, tractable and eager disposition. An agreeable companion and willing worker. "
- By sibernut [gb] Date 07.04.05 11:36 UTC
I agree with both comments. we had a bitch that we bought that hated men when we first got her. now she loves men to bits. unfortunatly you see a lot of sibes in the ring cowering and the tail firmly between the legs and the handler having to hold them up by the stomach and the head so that the judge can go over them and they still get placed. Not something I want in my breed, but if they get placed then the judge is say they are to a standard!
Also have known people to separate pups into different classes because if they are together they will fight????
Just my thoughts
Terry
- By Moonmaiden Date 07.04.05 14:06 UTC
Terry thet is so sad why do people still breed them I love all the huskies & the Mals(not to own tho')I know lots of lovely ones that are really good with my Cavaliers treating them as puppies, I cannot understand why anyone would want to breed from a nervous one
- By zalamazu [gb] Date 07.04.05 13:04 UTC
Hi Guest

It's true Temprement is very important & I would be very careful about breeding from a nervous bitch. Have you had her since she was a pup?. I assume you mean that both parents have numerous CC's, as there is no such thing as a multi-champion. A dog is simply a Champion or it is not. Siberians are not meant to be Chunky, they are meant to be medium in size with moderate bone. If you are looking to introduce new blood lines are you going to outcross?. If so you are you will probably get some pups like mum & some like dad, so be very sure that neither has faults that you are trying to get away from. Terry I must disagree with your comments about there being a lot of sibes who cower in the ring. Sure there are some but not that many & most are youngsters overawed by their day out. As for pups fighting in the ring, that is bad pack management. What experience do I have to be able to justify saying any of this. 21 years of owning, showing, breeding, racing & judging Siberian Huskies.
- By ice_cosmos Date 07.04.05 13:14 UTC
I assume you mean that both parents have numerous CC's, as there is no such thing as a multi-champion. A dog is simply a Champion or it is not.

Maybe the OP meant they had been made up in more than one country? Ie Am. Ch, Can. Ch - this is what I took it to mean anyway.
- By zalamazu [gb] Date 07.04.05 13:20 UTC
Hi Ice Cosmos

That could well be, but they are few & far between in our breed so I doubt it.
- By spanishwaterdog [gb] Date 07.04.05 13:24 UTC
I also thought that it looked as though they must have been shown in different countries as I'e heared of the phrase Multi Champion.

I also believe that if a dog is not of a good temperament then it should not be bred from, unless there was a reason for it becoming this way.   One of my dogs hates children and men, but this was due to a break-in at my house and her going missing for 2 weeks.  Before this time she was great with everyone.
- By michelled [gb] Date 07.04.05 14:16 UTC
yes you could use "multi Ch" as a term to indicate the dog had been made up in many countries,instead of listing all the different countries
- By ice_cosmos Date 07.04.05 13:25 UTC
Ah, it was just a guess :)
- By sibernut [gb] Date 07.04.05 14:52 UTC
Over awed on the day? This I have seen happen again and again. Yes Chris "Zalamazu" you have all that experience, but it that don't mean that you are always right. Everybody has different knowledge and we do not belittle that.
We have always disagreed with what we see as the breed standard and temperament is one thing that has been commented on by several judges.
Terry
- By jackbox Date 07.04.05 15:31 UTC
hi, i bought my miilie as a show dog, and would have loved nothing better than to have puppies from her one day. Her breeder asked me to bring her back to her and put her to one of her stud dogs, but millie unfortunately has not got the best of tempremants around other dogs, people she adores, with this in mind there is NO way i would ever consider letting her have puppies. Buying and raising a puppy is hard enough, without finding that the puppy you have bought and love has a temperment problem, and although i would never have gotten rid of her, this is how so many end up in rescue. you have to think of the poeple you going to sell your puppies to, and i am sure nobody wants the pups that they have bred putting in rescue,because the new owners cant or wont cope with them.
- By zalamazu [gb] Date 08.04.05 09:58 UTC
Terry

I certainly never said I was always right, far from it I am always prepared to listen & learn.

Yes the dogs we own are very different, but I'm sure the one thing that we would agree on is temprement. If a dog cannot get on with other dogs, it cannot do what it was bred for e.g running in harness along side other dogs.
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