Hi all agian i took advice on the puppy biting but NO and WALKING away is not working its nearly got to a quick tap which i dont want to do but it is getting me and family down as she has ripped holes in our clothes and also the settee NO not working removing from the setee she,s back in sec it took 1hr for her to get the message that i dont want her there , but that was only for that nite it was the same the following nite me and hubby have got to tense talking as i am with her alday and at my wits end
HELP

Hi, my dog was like this as a puppy.  In the end I used a rolled up newspaper and banged it hard on the wall/my leg/floor - this worked most times to stop her.  Have you tried putting her out of the room for a few minutes each time she does something that's unacceptable?  I haven't seen your previous post, so will take a look for it.

Fiona

thanks for that i have not tried the newspaper but have moved her out of the room for a few mins to no avail

how old? what breed? have you had a puppy before?

you need to find away of interacting with her & praising for NOT biting, you could use a clicker & titbits or a distracting toy & titbits for this. most dogs can learn the word "nicely" which means not rough play. if she breaks the rules ,dont say anything & put her out of the room for a few minutes.BUT  to do this SHE must UNDERSTAND that biting is not acceptable

she is 11wks and gsd

sorry zowie is 11wks and a gsd and not had a young pup before

NO tends to not really work because pups don't understand what you are saying to them. /They just hear the noise and may not really understand, the world is so new to them.They also find it hard to learn unless they are shown what TO do, and not just what NOT to do :)

Do you have Gwen Bailey's "The Perfect Puppy"? Very good for taking owners through puppyhood and beyond.

I would suggest good pup classes will help you BUT please be very careful - some which may allow pups racing free for all around the room can cause later problems. YOu need ones that control pups in play and allow play but not bullying etc

Try www.puppyschool.co.uk for starters for one near you. Also www.apdt.co.uk
A trainer may visit you for a session to help you in your own home too.

Use raggy toys to stuff in the pup's mouth and to distract from biting - some pups learn to take this instead of biting. /Give plenty of stuffed kongs etc to fulfil the need to chew.

I had a very "mad bitey puppy" and the best way i found was to go out the room or take her out (you may need to use a long lead to avoid games) for about 2 minutes, then back in, and repeat. You may have to repeat a lot but it does work.

Some pups get worse before they get better too - this is a sign the training is working.

hth a bit
Lindsay
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does everybody follow the same rules ALL the time with her? is she ever allowed to get away with it even once? if so you need to be more consistant.

get down on the floor with her ,a pot of titbits & a raggy toy. have a really good game bit of tuggy bit of chase,all the time tell her how good she is & routinely titbit. if she gets over excited & bites,just finish the game AT ONCE & walk away OR put her out for a few minutes then start the game again.

Yes, agree with Michelled, that works well too and was part of our training :)

It gives a very clear message to the pup.

Lindsay
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im worried that the pup is confused about the biting & is having too much "negative" & therefore the relationship is not building as it should do.

thank you so much for info . I cannot lie on floor with her as then she goes beserk and we do STOP play at once and then she goes on for more with a barky yap as if to tell us off in ya face . i shall  invest in a kong ball as for classes today i ahve enrolled her in a good class to start in 1wk i hope that this helps her i was also told to screw up a teatowel and freeze it then give it her shall let ya know how that works .
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Or have you tried the yelp?? When the dog bites you, give off a high pitched yelp/squeal and walk away.. I believe its puppy talk for 'Ouch!'. So then the pup learns that if anyone gets hurt, the game is over.

I've always done this with my dogs and they learn not to bite very quickly!!

When the pup bites and you walk away and it starts to bark... are you sure it knows what you're walking away for?? I think the yelp is very important in that sense!

Doris
I can tell you that between the ages of 11 - 18 weeks we had terrible problems with our staff biting it was the only thing we ever had trouble with. we had marks all over our hand and arms and it hurt like hell . She would sleep all night, never cry, never chewed anything when left but just this biting. We tried the ' no' ,the walking away and ignoring, stopping the game, replacing the biting with toys etc., none worked...immediately.But all of a sudden she stopped biting when one day I shouted 'naughty girl', from then on, that phrase worked and still does,also the ignoring works now but then she is a year old. I think each puppy is different some are worse and better than others at different things. She will grow out of it, but its a stage they have to go through. Be consistent, it may not actually cure the problem now but it will teach her that you do mean business and she will be better behaved for it when shes older

Please don't use the rolled up newspaper with this pup!!  It is so easy to make them nervous of loud sudden noises that you may end up with more trouble later on related to noise :(

Regarding your furniture, you could try essential oil rubbed on it  which will act as a deterrant (just use whichever one she hates the smell of most ;) )  or Vapour rub will usually do the trick, most dogs hate the smell and taste.

I have to say that a rolled up newspaper was the ONLY way I could stop my puppy - she was so bitey there was no time when she was awake and not biting!  Our clothes and bodies were in shreds.  She has however grown up into the most bomb-proof dog you could wish for (In fact I posted about this not so long ago).  I do appreciate that all dogs are different, but sometimes you do need a fast result before more damage is done.  The noise from a paper is not really that loud anyway and I would have thought that sudden noises should be part of socialisation. My dog has never been bothered by fireworks, etc and she is 3 years old now.  Is vapour rub safe to ingest?

The newspaper was in common use when I had my first bitch in the seventies.  She just grabbed  hold of the newspaper and pulled it out of my hand

Please persist.  So many people give up because the behaviour will get worse before it gets better - it's what is known as an 'extinction burst' - the pup knows this behaviour has always got him a reward in the past, so maybe more is what is now needed........  Think of it this way - you have an old banger of a car - it usually starts - eventually.  Your husband has a brand new BMW - which one of you will try to start a car that's relucant to start the longest - you?  Or Hubby?  It will be you won't it?  Because you've learnt that what you are doing gets a result eventually.........

Vapour rub is safe in the quantities you would be using, I wouldn't recommend the whole pot tho.  Try it on one piece of furniture first and see what the reaction is.  If its found to be tasty use something else!   Most dogs detest the smell tho.

I used this some years ago to try and deter my gsd and she loved the smell and taste. :-)

We went through this stage as I'm sure every puppy owner has. We read many books and tried many things. Our saviour was the bitter anti chew spray, available from pet stores. We sprayed it on the bottom of clothes, it doesn't smell nice but it only takes a while for them to realise that chewing certain things are not nice. I wouldn't recommend your Sunday best clothes!!! although the one we used is clear and didn't mark even dark clothes.  We even put it on our hands to stop our dog nipping them. When she walks away discusted, praise with words etc.
It all depends on the pup but believe me it doesn't last. Good luck
Deb