Hi everyone I can at last tell you what happened to my pups after they were vaccinated,thanks to a very kind person who taught me to copy & paste!
I hope it will give you an idea as to why I hold stong convictions on certain issues.
Christine2

REACTION TO VACCINE IN LABRADOR PUPPIES

11/4/‘01 9 healthy pups born.
5/6/‘01 First vaccine given to pups. It was a MLV for Lepto. Parvo, Hepatitis & Distemper. They are 8 wks old.
6/6/01 one of the males is limping on the right leg in the morning. His name is “REDDY”. By late afternoon the limp is worse & I bring him into the house.
7/6/01 he has a pea-sized lump on his right side & by the afternoon he has several more. I spoke to the vet late afternoon & he said it was probably an allergy.
8/6/01 Reddy has quite a few lumps & I spoke to the vet again who suggests I keep an eye on him. By the afternoon the lumps start bursting & we go to the vets clinic. My vet diagnosis is septicaemia. I told him Reddy was having a reaction to the vaccine but he disagreed. He did say he had never seen anything like it before. We came home with 2 different kinds of antibiotics.
10/6/01 I phoned the vet & arranged to meet him at his clinic at 8 a.m. Poor Reddy`s ears are full of puss & more lumps have come out. The vet gives me drops for his ears & another antibiotic & takes a culture. Reddy is now on 3 different antibiotics.
12/6/01 The results of the culture come back negative & my poor puppy is now covered with open, weeping sores.
13/6/01 Back to the clinic & the vet does 2 biopsies & more cultures. One biopsy goes to the local hospital & the other goes to U.K.
Over the next few days Reddy gets worse & stops eating. I cannot bear to watch him suffer & want to let him go but my vet persuades me to wait for the results of the biopsy. I can’t even pick him up to comfort him, as the sores are everywhere & obviously very painful. The culture results show sterile puss & no bacteria.
19/6/01 Results of biopsy show Reddy has
IDIOPATHIC NODULAR PANNICULITIS
My vet starts treating Reddy with high dose of cortisone, vit E. & one type of antibiotic. The vet now tells me he believes it is caused by the vaccine. I had been telling him all the time it was because of the vaccine.
Reddy responded very quickly to the drugs & came along in leaps & bounds. It was wonderful to watch him getting better. He lived in the kitchen & was just starting to go outside in the patio, as he liked to be clean when another disaster struck.

3/7/01 Pups are due their 12-week vaccine. 3 pups have gone to new homes & I have 6 still with me & Reddys new family are waiting for him to get better. 5 live outside in the puppy kennel & Reddy is in the kitchen.
I had noticed a funny coloured faeces in the pups kennel & it was watery but solid at the same time & I had never seen anything like it before, so I just thought I would keep an eye on them & wasn’t worried. I should have been.
4/7/01 One male has diarrhoea. His name is Going Places, “G.P.” for short. After no food I put him on chicken & rice. Absolutely fine in himself & running around as normal.
5/7/01 One of the girls same as above. Her name is Gillianne, “Gilly” for short. By the late evening everything looks fine, they had each only had one bout of diarrhoea & they all were looking & behaving normally. Except one male, who was just a bit quite. His name is Going Around, “Gaddy” for short.
6/7/01 Early morning & Gaddy is slumped over the water bowl, very poorly,& he is brought straight into the spare bedroom. Lots of vomit in the kennels but no diarrhoea & no temperature. After quickly sorting the other pups out I take Gaddy to my Spanish vet who is just up the road. He puts him straight on a drip & gives him intravenous drugs. After a couple of hours we come home with instructions to return at 7 p.m. Late afternoon & G.P. is vomiting & he is brought into the spare room. Both of them are taken to the vet at 7p.m. & are put on drips & have all the treatment, which is the same for Gastro Enteritis, Parvo, etc. Vet said they had gastro enteritis at this time. Told to bring them back to clinic 9a.m. tomorrow.
7/7/01 9a.m. & back at vets. Still no diarrhoea or temperature in Gaddy or G.P. Vomiting has eased off. Treatment as previous day. Have to take them both back at 7p.m. tonight. At the clinic this evening they are both lively but the vet still treats them same as before & tells me to bring them back at 9a.m. tomorrow. Pups do well during the night & look fine. Vomiting appears to have stopped & give them very small portion of Hills I.D. Pups outside appear to have no problem.
8/7/01 One of the girls outside is vomiting & G.P. is quiet. All 3 to the vet. The girl is called Gwen’s Girl. All 3 have same treatment. When its finished the vet sends us home & tells me he will call in later. By early evening when the vet calls Gaddy is O.K., G.P. & Gwen are quiet & he treats them as before. Still with no temperature or diarrhoea. Middle of the night & Gaddy has bloody diarrhoea.
9/7/01 Early morning & the vet has all 3 on drips in my spare room. They have Parvo.This was confirmed later in the week by faeces analyses.
Reddy ate his breakfast but very little else all day. He did eat his titbits.
10/7/01 Reddy the same as yesterday. Late afternoon his faeces are soft. Vet starts him on treatment. The longest night. G.P. has explosive bloody diarrhoea & bloody vomit. Gaddy & Gwen are not as bad. Reddy starts to vomit & diarrhoea.
11/7/01 Early morning & vet has all 4 on drips. By the afternoon Reddy is very poorly. Vet gives him morphine for the pain. I knew I had a decision to make but Reddy made it for me. He died at 7.25p.m. It was a horrible & violent way for him to die after all he had been through.
But, I still had 3 poorly pups to look after.
12/7/01 Gaddy & Gwen are slowly recovering but G.P.is dying. His temperature is 42.C. and the vet can’t stop the vomiting & diarrhoea. He has been on a drip since Sunday night.
Gillianne & my other girl, Gwyneth, are moved into isolation, as they have not gone down with it.
13/7/01 No change in G.P. but Gaddy is great & goes back outside. Gwen is getting there. Late evening & G.P.`s temp. goes down a degree.
14/7/01 G.P. has turned the corner. He starts to recover but it takes another couple of weeks before the vomiting & diarrhoea stop & he can start to eat normally.
20/7/01 Gillianne & Gwyneth, the 2 girls who didn’t appear to have Parvo have their 2nd vaccines & are fine. I had titres done for both of them first.
22/7/01 Gaddy& Gwen are both outside in the puppy kennel & are fine in themselves but Gwen is still on drugs for diarrhoea & vomiting. Not bloody.
25/7/01 Gilly & Gwyneth come out of isolation & Gilly leaves to go to her new family. Gwyneth joins the other two in the puppy kennel.
Mid morning & Gwen’s sides look puffy. She is fine & eats her lunch and is her normal self. Mid afternoon & her sides are definitely swollen. Of to the vets again. He tries to pump her stomach & some food comes out. By 9.p.m. they have to operate. 11.30.p.m. he tells me her spleen had twisted
& it was a good job I had decided not to wait till the morning as she would have died by then. It was dilatation. He still didn’t know if she would survive the night, as she was very weak. So many long nights & he brought her home at 2.30.a.m. She did make it.
3/8/01 Gaddy has his 2nd vacc.
4/8/01 11.30.a.m. & Gaddy starts vomiting, it continues into the afternoon & then he starts diarrhoea. Vets back & treating him & Gaddy is back in the bedroom. He tells me it’s a reaction to the vaccine.
6/8/01 Gaddy is back to normal & goes outside.

7/8/01 After such a long time & so many longer nights G.P. has gone out to join his littermates & they are running around being normal happy pups. I wouldn’t say perfectly healthy just yet as they are still having minor ups & downs but they are certainly on the way to making a full recovery.

When Reddys biopsy results came back, my Gibraltar vet said in his opinion the Panniculitis was caused by the vaccine & he spoke to the drug manufacturer & told them what had happened. He also cancelled his contract with them & went back to his old supplier. The makers of the vacc went to see him 2 wks later & took all the details. They told him they would be in touch with me. They did not get in touch with me.
From 9/7/01 –16/7/01 my Gibraltar vet was on holiday. (He is the vet who gave my pups their first vaccine). I informed him on the 17/7/01 what had happened &that Reddy had died. He informed the makers of the vacc the following day. They again told him that they would get in touch with me but they didn’t. I finally had to ring them & a meeting was arranged between them, myself & husband & the two vets at my home on 31/7/01. Unfortunately the vet from Gibraltar couldn’t make it.
My opinion is that the vaccine caused the Panniculitis. Both the Spanish vet & the Gibraltar vet are of the same opinion.
The vaccine failed to protect my pups against Parvo.
It was the direct cause of Reddys death.
The Spanish vet is of the opinion that the vaccine was either bad or it failed to protect my pups.
The Gibraltar vet agrees the vaccine failed to protect my pups.

The makers of the vacc accepted none of our opinions. They have told me that Reddys Panniculitis is the only one in Europe. They said a lot of things which all boiled down to them not accepting any responsibility what so ever. As they were leaving they said they had serum that I could give my pups that would give them temporary protection until they were well enough to have their second jabs. I told them I wanted information first, but they insisted they would send it to my Spanish vet & I could use it or not, as I wished. It duly arrived, several days later Cash on Delivery! The vet promptly refused to accept it & phoned them & told them he thought they had greatly insulted me. G.P.& Gwen have had blood taken & it’s been sent to Glasgow University for analyses on 10/8/01.

The blood titres show that Gwen’s Girl has high antibodies for Parvo Distemper & Adno virus.
Unfortunately G.P. has very low antibodies for distemper & adenovirus. He obviously has no protection against these diseases & I am at a loss as to what to do. Damned if I do & damned if I don’t. (Vaccinate that is).

After much reading & talking. November finds me feeding all my dogs on a natural diet as explained in Dr Pitcairn’s book The Complete Guide to Natural Health For Dogs & Cats. They are all very well & healthy & G.P. & Gwens Girl are doing great but I still cannot bring myself to have them vaccinated again. I know it is a decision I have to make alone.

I just do not understand how the drug manufacturer & the vet who was involved in my situation are allowed to walk away from this situation with remarks such as …… “It happens”…..”Vaccines are not 100%” ….
“There is no guarantee”…….” It’s got nothing to do with the vaccine”…..
“You cannot prove it was the vaccine”.

Drug manufacturers & the Veterinary profession have a duty to provide us with the safest possible medication for our animals & to take responsibility for things when they go wrong. They are bound by a professional code of ethics. Or doesn’t that count for anything these days. I am sure a lot of people would agree with this opinion. Both the drug manufacturer & myself have made Suspected Adverse Reaction Reports in England & Spain. Once any drug companies have been informed of any suspected adverse reaction, they are legally required to report it to the appropriate agency

C. V.

UPDATE 6/3/2002

In February G.P. & Gwen’s Girl had blood titres done again at Glasgow University & neither of them have antibodies to distemper or adno virus.
They were vaccinated against those 2 diseases 8 days ago & have shown no adverse reaction what so ever. I put there continuing good health down to the natural diet & good food all my dogs will continue to eat. I cannot praise it enough.
A couple of days after the above update I found both dogs developed some kind of skin irritation, brown & oily & the fur fell out 2/3 inches wide running across their back just below the shoulder blade. It cleared up after treatment in about 6 wks.