MY 13 WEEK OLD BULLMASTIFF KEEPS BITING MY 2 YEAR OLD E.G YAESTERDAY I HEARD MY LITTLE LAD SCREAMING AND THE DOG HAD HOLD OF HIM BY THE ARM SHAKING HIM AND HE WAS GROWLING NOW I DONY AGREE WITH HITTING A DOG SO WHAT DO I DO IT HAS TO STOP AS I ALSO HAVE A 14 MONTH OLD PLEASE HELP AS I NEED THIS TO STOP BEFORE HE GETS BIGGGER AND REALLY HURTS SOMEONE PLEASE DONT TELL ME TO JOIN AS I HAVE BUT IT WONT LET ME LOG ON THANKS

Please turn off your cap. lock. A 2 year old should NEVER be left alone with a dog or puppy - you do not know what prompted this behaviour, the child could have done something to the puppy. We will need much more information to give proper advice so you will have to join properly - have a look at the help topics to see if you can fix the logging on problem.

If I understand your post correctly, you have a two year old and a baby of fourteen months and a puppy of 13 weeks.   Am I correct?

If this is so, I would STRONGLY advise you to take your bullmastiff puppy back to the breeder, as in my mind, this scenario is just an accident waiting to happen.

You have your hands full enough with two babies.   If you add a puppy of any size to this equation, it means so much hard work for you.   To add a large bullmastiff puppy to it, is just not sensible.

Wait until your children are old enough and responsible enough to understand how to react to a dog/puppy.

Margot

I have to agree with Margot, I only have one puppy to worry about and I find that hard enough. I think that you wouldn't have the time to socailise/train your puppy aswell as take care of two babies...you must be hairless at the moment. I know I couldn't cope in your situation that is why I got my dog before starting a family of my own..he takes up all my time at the moment.
Good Luck

Is it just me or does this seem like a troll post?

There have been a few of them written in BLOCK CAPITALS...asking for help... and saying not to ask them to register because they have and it wont let them log on!!.... all the same person??

Sounds like someone's attention seeking to me!!

No, I think this one is a genuine post - but she can't log in!

It still worries me tho - two years ago, I wouldn't let a couple with two children under 5 & another on the way have an Aussie pup because I said it would be too much work for them!

Margot

Just like that Kennel name post that wont let them log in!

All in block capitals.. no punctuation whatsoever... quite a few spelling mistakes aswell...

I didn't know you could have 2 children and a bullmastiff pup at 9 years old!

Forgive me if I've made a mistake, but it does seem unlikely!!

This person has been on a lot of forums asking about what to feed her dog bit odd as she/he uses caps all the times & doesn't seem to be listening to any advise given

i listen to what everyone says but everyone has told me different things i have decided on burns so i am slowly introducing it to him im sorry if i have got on peoples nerves but i just didnt want to get it wrong sorry again dawn

i have logged in now im sorry that im not good at spelling i am asking for advice on my dog not insults because i cant spell

i never said i could not log into the kennel club i just did not no were to look

hi thank you for not calling me a troll i really could not log on but thanks to someone telling me to go to faq i have finally sorted it my husband works from home and the puppy does get time he goes to our friends house twice a week who has 2 bullmastiffs and he comes with us to my mother in laws were she has a dog,and i am just sorting out classes for us to go to to train him i have posted a few questions but im not attention seeking,i just want to do it right and take my responsibility very seriously thanks dawn

Ana,
Some people do not know how to punctuate. No offence to the poster, but illiteracy does exist and it should not be laughed at! Ok so maby the poster hasn't been listening, maby they do not understand how it is basic manners not to use caps when leaving a message on an internet board or in a chat room, that is no excuse for you to make a mockery of them!

Some people really don't think do they?!
AND DOESNT ANYONE WATCH EASTENDERS!!!!! :D

hi im not  trying to get on peoples nerves i did not no that leaving the caps lock on is bad manners to be honest i needed advice so thought people would notice and answer it if it stood out,i am sorry and hope if i have a problem i can ask without certain people insulting me sorry again for being thick dawn

Dawn i was defending you in my badly worded way lol.

thanks the dark i was not meaning you or lokis mum ,thanks again dawn

But you do understand my concern, don't you Dawn?

As I said, two years ago, I wouldn't let a lovely family have one of our aussie pups - not because I thought the puppy would be a problem, but just with 2 children under 5 and a baby on the way, I just felt that it was not the right time for that family to cope with a puppy as well.  Most of the work would fall on the mum (she was home all day) and the puppy couldn't get the attention it deserved, nor could the children.   I still say you should seriously consider handing the puppy back to the breeder if I did understand you right and you have a 2 year old and a baby of 14 months!!!!   It's not fair to you, your children or the puppy.

Wait three or four years, and then have your puppy.  I know you've waited for it - but it could all end in heartbreak.

Margot

I was simply pointing out that people may not be aware of chat etiquet (sp) and may well be slihtly illiterate (as i can be lol). It is not a thing to be ashamed of, many people suffer through poor reading and writing skills and, having an older member of my family who cannot read, get a little upset at people being ridiculed for it.
I was by no means saying that you are illiterate, simply unaware of how to type on a message board, which is an easy mistake to make. I appologise if i offended you.

hi you did not offend me my problem is full stops and spellings i can read i admit i have asked the same question about feeding on a few forums because i can not get the food the breeder had him on near me and he said it was to high in protien but said he also fed chicken mince [i thought that was protien] and sauid i need to feed him 20 22% protien because of his hips but then i got told if i feed him to little he wont grow properly,and if i feed a complete food and give chicken mince it could give him the rong vitamins etc as he is on a complete but i have decided on burns anyway thanks dawnx

Okay, I owe you an apology...

I'm sorry :)

I don't want any fights, but you can see where I was coming from can't you?

The fact that you've logged in and replied clears it all up, and I take back what I said..

Sorry!!

I would take the dog back to the breeder,altho if this breeder was reputable he wouldnt have sold you a pup with such yound kids at home :(

It is not so hard to use full stops,comma's and the enter button,it will make your posts a little more easier to read :)

Ah but Rose, my BF hardly ever uses them as he has never grasped the concept of them, and not cause he is thick, he is a very intelligent man. Just never been taught in a way that he has been able to grasp where to put them,. He does use full stops, but I hardly ever see a comma in his writing.Some people just cant, not cause they dont want to but because they CANT.
So, it takes a bit longer to read, so what.you can put the full stops and commas in yourself with hardly any effort??
Just a thought.
Lea :)

A good rule of thumb is to read through what you have written and, where you feel the need to take a breath, add a comma :D :D It doesn't always work but it can help ;)

Let he who is without sin and all that Rose - you might want to look at your use of the apostrophe ;)

:d :D Pedants of the world unite :D

:D  I sometimes want to go through posts with my RED PEN, underlining & annotating in margins (which of course aren't there!)

Margot

I did that once when my ex husband wrote me a letter :D :D He wasn't amused :p :p :p

Was that before or after he became your Ex? ;) :D

You think this forum is bad - you want to see some of the grammer and spelling on another board I frequent - where the members send reports to their clients, and this is then passed on to the client's clients!!!!!

Lol! :D :D

Eats, Shoots and Leaves should be compulsory reading!
:)

morning all giving the dog back is not an option so any tips on a puppy would be great,we have had a bullmastiff before but he was 3 so i have never had a puppy,i did not take getting a puppy lightly

I have Pm'd you.

Well if the pup going back is not an option (and I STILL think that would be the best thing :( ), you are going to really have your work cut out - a three yeaer old Bullmastiff is a mature dog, and has learned how to behave - you are going to have to teach a little (or not so little Tooth Monster) just how to behave - and at the same time, you MUST teach your babies how to behave and respect the puppy!

First and foremost, at NO TIME leave the children and puppy unattended - even when you go to the loo!  There must ALWAYS be someone with them who is giving them their full attention - you can't have the telly on as well - you could be distracted by that - even for a couple of seconds - and 2 year old could be poking something in the puppy's eyes, ears, or the puppy could be chewing on the baby's arm   

As this is nigh-on impossible, I'm going to suggest that you get a crate (and its gonna have to be ENORMOUS!!) for baby bullym - treat it as his playpen - somewhere you can pop him where its safe for him to be, to have a snooze, to eat, to play with his own toys - just as you pop the baby into his/her cot for a snooze, into her chair for her dinner, etc etc.    If he gets used to going into the crate, and you can shut the door (maybe even lock it if your toddler decides to let puppy out to play), you can then safely hang out the washing/answer the door/go to the loo, etc etc etc.

Start with that - at least it will give you a little peace of mind.   Both puppy and babies have to grow up together - and each has to learn to respect the other.    It's going to be very hard work for you, but keep on asking questions, let us know how you are doing, etc etc etc.    Don't worry about your spelling, punctuation, etc - just ask, I'll do my best to help you - if you want to PM me, then please do!

Regards
Margot

If you do a google search Dawn you can get a reasonably priced 42 inch long, 28 inch wide and 30 inch high crarte which should hold your bully fine.  go for one with two doors for poreference as that makes siting it much easier (door in short and long end) :D  YTou can get one for about £50 - £70 if you search online.

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hiya! first of all then NEVER ever leave the puppy alone with the kids. invest in a crate if you havent already got one & make use of stair kiddy gates so its easy to separate the kids & the pup when you are not there.

this is a very TIC answer! if sending the pup back is not a option,i suppose rehoming the kids is another option! ;)

Do you mean to say that I could have done that with my 4    ??

Oh well - they do say that grandchildren are the rewards for not killing your own offspring :D :D :D

Margot

:D touche.

>Let he who is without sin and all that Rose - you might want to look at your use of the apostrophe ;-)<

  Digger we can talk about apostrophe if you like,but i was talking about comma's and full stops!

All parts of punctuation are as important as each other for giving the intended meaning, rose! ;) Criticising the wrong use of one form whilst making equally simple errors of your own seems a tad intolerant.
:)

If you have a horse/livestock feed place near you, and some sainsbury's also sell it then Autarky is 22% Protein in the adult, and a little more in the puppy.  I have found it very helpful with the herbs it contains to stop indigestion (grass eating and morning bile chuck up) in one of my older dogs.  When I ran out and fed the other food I also use she was back to sicking up bile in the monrings.

Some people like me just hit the wortn keys and post before reading what they right because they are in ahurry or can't see well like me :D

Also having young children and pups can and does work well for many people though it is VERY HARD work, which many people aren't prepared to do, but others are.

I had my first dog when my daughter was 14 months and I worked full time with Husband doing shifts, not ideal but I wanted to make it work.  I then became a single parent expecting my second child, but had no thoughts of not keeping the dog.

Had my second dog when my first died young, and had two pre school kids.  I ahve also been at the other end taking back a difficult adolescent because the nice family who had ther couldn't cope with her and a yougnfamily, so one cannot generalise :D

Poster sounds quite sensible as she realised that her two year old should not be running when pup chased.  Just wanted to know how to handle a pup that wouldn't stop the rough play.

Margo
One question.... Is it not the practice that breeders generally don't like to home dogs with young children, I know that rescue centres don't? I am a little niave when it comes to breeders....

I think you'll find that most reputable breeders, who have a concern for the wellbeing of their puppy first and foremost, are reluctant to let a family with VERY YOUNG children have a puppy unless the family is very experienced/well known to the breeder.

After all, our prime concern is the wellbeing of OUR babies - it doesn't do the puppy, our reputation or the breed reputation any good to have to rehome after a few months because of problems in the family.

Of course, it does depend upon the character of the child - a very calm 3 year old, who will sit quietly amongst a litter of frolicking puppies is going to be a far better bet than a hyped-up 6 year old, who wants to "teach" all the puppies tricks.   

I find that by talking to the WHOLE family, I can (usually) gauge how the family interacts, and how a puppy will be treated.

Margot 

I would have to agree with you too. I am planning of getting a puppy before I start a family so that when I do have a child the dog is settled and a little more chilled and I am hoping for a Rottwieler. I would never have a puppy and babies at the same time...

Well the pup is there now, and to suggest sending it away again is just plain silly. To expect a family to part with their pup, if anyone suggested that to me they would get the sharp edge of my tongue!

It is not expensive for a large crate from ebay, you can get a huge one for less than £50, with delivery and bedding. Separating the dog from the children at key times would help considerably and maby a pen in the garden would help? the dog needs ouside time, summer is comming and with a kong or nice big raw bone would be happy for two or three hours through the day.

It is important that the dog learns how to bahave around the children, and, as they grow older, the children learn how to behave around the dog. It is not difficult, thousands fo families do it every day, im sure this family will be no different. Since the questions have been asked it is obvious that the poster is willing to put in the work and get the problems sorted.

Since the dog is no going to be sent away, and nor should it have ever been suggested, maby some positive suggestions would be nice?

I think you'll find that it what I have done!

Margot

Also enrole in puppy classes they are a god send ours was. Remember whatever problems you encounter there are always people on here that will be willing to offer advice and share their experiences, dont struggle on your own.
Mary

hi i have a bullmastiff pup 5mths you will find that this pup was playing and its down to you to make sure he plays with toys and not your sons arm our pup used to try but you have to be persistent tempting him with toys and plenty of praise when he chews them this stage doesnt take lo0ng i also used to say no biting firmly and turn away from her this works as bullmastiffs love being praised not ignored.I have five children and i dont have a problem looking after my dogs if you are serious about keeping this dog you realy have to have time and patience training him and so watch you children like hawks as young children can be spitfull with pets and if the dog retaliates its your fault not the dogs.i never leave my children alone with my dogs because you never no.I dont mean to sound harsh but puppys dont come fully trained same as children they have to be taught.