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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / boxer pups
- By totalboxermad [gb] Date 07.03.05 16:16 UTC
Hi can anyone help me, have litter ready end of march with excellent pedigree, but don't know how to go about selling them as this is my first time at this.
- By thedark [gb] Date 07.03.05 23:32 UTC
Read Betty's post and you'll get some ideas from there.
Also, this post could be removed as it looks like you are advertising them.
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 07.03.05 23:54 UTC
Iknow its the end of the day and I probably shouldn't be posting this but.....

It really is better to have done your research AND have some prospective owners lined up BEFORE the puppies are born.

There do seem to be a fair number of "new members" whose second or third post says "how do I find buyrs for my puppies :(

Posts are generally removed PDQ - but it makes for free advertising for maybe 2-3 hours.

Margot
- By thedark [gb] Date 08.03.05 00:05 UTC
Well to anyone reading.....

This person hasn't done enough research to know how to have a waiting list well in advance of breeding.

You may be thinking "well i see many litters advertised in the paper". Now ask yourself why these litters are in the paper. They may not have been health tested so could, in a couple of years time, have a very nasty and very expensive health problem come abd sting you for a few thousand £. Plus, there may not have been sufficient thought given to temperament and you could get a very bad tempered dog. Is it worth the risk?
Please, if you are looking to buy a puppy, look through the breeder directory here, contact a few breeders, visit their homes, go to a couple of local shows and get on a waiting list. It will pay off to wait!
- By Isabel Date 08.03.05 00:18 UTC
I think for the very infrequent hobby breeder it is acceptable to have no buyers waiting providing all other steps towards responsible breeding has been taken.  Whats the difference in some puppies still be be found homes and all, except perhaps the one you are keeping, needing homes as litter sizes can vary so much anyway.  I have in the past used the breed club, KC and even advertised in country newspapers in parts of the country I wanted my puppies to live in.  All the homes have been as carefully vetted as they would have been before the breeding took place.
- By thedark [gb] Date 08.03.05 00:27 UTC
Theres a difference between the country paper and Admag. Again i should have said "papers like ADmag". Once again, ive badly worded a post and caused offence. I will learn to log out and change all my e.mail adresses lololol.
- By Isabel Date 08.03.05 00:30 UTC
:) It was more the waiting list bit but I'm guessing you didn't mean that too strictly either.
- By thedark [gb] Date 08.03.05 00:38 UTC
Well i always have a full waiting list before i breed lol.
Word got out that im reliable apparently. What that means i have no idea but thats what they said. I took it that i was very trustworthy, my contract was fair and i was always there to give support.
- By Isabel Date 08.03.05 00:39 UTC
But will they wait maybe 4 years for you to breed a litter?
- By thedark [gb] Date 08.03.05 00:44 UTC
Its more like two years, i do have people who have waited 18 months so far from a particular bitch and will have another 10 months to go as im not breeding her next season. I have discussed this with them and they are more than happy to wait. These people are few and far between i know but after meeting my girl, and visiting the stud i plan to use, they are more than happy temperament wise, hip and eye test results wise and only want a pet.
- By Isabel Date 08.03.05 00:49 UTC
I'm sure you breed a lovely pup :) but what I'm getting at is it is not unreasonable for people who breed very infrequently, perhaps only every few years, to not have a waiting list.
- By thedark [gb] Date 08.03.05 01:23 UTC
I can see the predicament but i have never had this problem, as yet. I hope i never do.
- By Isabel Date 08.03.05 09:00 UTC
Its not really a predicament, once the happy announcement is made I have always had more than enough enquiries to commence the vetting procedure, no different really than if it was conducted before the mating :)
- By Teri Date 08.03.05 01:16 UTC
I don't know your specific breed :confused: but even those who have puppies pre-booked for months or years in advance can still not have any way of guaranteeing that the puppies born match the owners on the waiting lists ;)
The most obvious examples of things not going to plan being size of litter (could be plus or minus on homes waiting); sex of puppies- bookings for 5 bitches and two dogs but litter is all dogs; in a breed where multiple colours can be born the preferred colours booked don't materialise; there are insufficient no's of puppies showing *genuine potential* for waiting show homes.  The character of the puppies are all wonderful but some pups perhaps planned for agility homes may be too laid back and soft natured to fullfil the buyers' needs or puppies that are not good enough for the show ring are for some reason not temperamentally suited to the available pet homes - maybe great natured but needing a more experienced or challenging environment for example.  I could go on - and I'm sure others could add quite a few different scenarios :(
I've known the top breeders in three different breeds being left with puppies for an extra 2-6 weeks because despite having lengthy waiting lists the puppies available did not match up to the homes waiting.

Regards, Teri :)
- By Brainless [gb] Date 08.03.05 09:34 UTC
Totally agree.  I had a whole load of people who had booked with me, and no pups materialised, I pased the enquiries on and in some cases they ahve had to be passed down the line several times and are waiting on litters yet unborn from other breeders. 

When I breed my next litter I will have to have a new list of booking, and I am rathr loath to waste too many peoples time as the bitch I hope to mate is most unco-operative (even though she has had one litter) and I amy not get another litter from her.

So apart from the people who really want a pup from this particular mating I won't take anyone onto my list unless the bitch is actually proved in whelp.

Also it is amazing that many people who book do not let you know that they ahve changd their minds, gone with another breeder/breed and a full order book may end up quite empty.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 08.03.05 09:20 UTC
In my breed with the number of litters bred being small I will build up a waiting list once I have a bitch in season or mated, but if I get a miss I pass enquiries on to others, I don't beleive in hanging on to them, as how long can someone who is mainly looking for a apet expected to hang on.  I would rather pass them on to the person who has a litter due next, and so on down the line rather than loose them to another breed.

We used to ahve a slightly disorganised system in our breed where breeders let the club secretary knwo when a bitch was mated and whelped, and when she got enquiries she would let them have these ddeatils, or if there were none then a list of breeders.  Now this list often had people who hadn't bred for years, and didn't have some that were intending to breed.

It was decided, and seems to be workign well, that breeders let the club secretary know on a rolling 12 month basis of their breeding plans.

Now when people contact the club they get a list of current and planned litters with dates of bitch or likely month litter planned for.
- By polly_45 [gb] Date 08.03.05 01:12 UTC
Hi total I would think if they had a excellent pedigree you wouldnt need to ask, but perhaps this is your first litter does the stud dog owner not have anyone on their waiting lists for boxers, with my last litter i had homes for all of mine when the pups where only three wks old, i would suggest if you advertise them in a local paper you first vet the new owners then their homes.
- By Boxacrazy [gb] Date 08.03.05 07:04 UTC
The stud dog owner (if they are reputable) will have people that contact them
for puppies. Normally if the stud dog owner has no puppies themselves will pass
on details of breeders that have used their stud dogs with possible pups available.

You can also contact your local Boxer club secretary who may also have lists of breeders with pups available.
So that when they have enquiries they pass on your contact details.

The KC give you an option to advertise on their puppy lists, I can't remember how much it costs when you KC register your pups.

The local papers are a good option but like all the above options you do have to vet the prospective owners
and homes. I did advertise in our local freeadds paper - it doesn't make you a bad breeder if you do this - you just have to
be very careful and screen all your calls and go and visit the home too. (I did this with all of my pups anyhow regardless of where the people got my contact details from) I also put in the advert that all potential owners & homes would be vetted.

Then of course there is also the internet as an advertising medium - there are lots of sites that you can advertise on.
It's probably not a good idea to put your full address on these but just the postal town of where you live.
Avoiding people just suddenly turning up on your door step and potential dog thieves.

Also your vet and local pet shops have boards to place adverrtisements - these cost a nominal donation of a £1 I think.

If you are advertising it's important to put in your ad if the pups have a good pedigree (i.e from winning show dogs)
the health tests - such as both parents heart-tested clear, if the pups are docked or not, what colour (red, brindle and whites)
what sexes etc. If they've had any injections/innoculations etc.
When people ring to enquire have a pedigree to hand so that you can read out to people how your pups are bred.
Also keep the health testing certificates to hand when people come to visit, along with worming certificates, KC reg papers,
puppy packs etc etc etc etc.
- By tenno staffs [gb] Date 08.03.05 08:26 UTC
I have a short waiting list for mine & I dont know if she is in pup yet.
The stud owner also gets enquirys.

The people on my list all want show quality blue males! So I dont think many are going to get one - I dont think I will be that lucky to have a whole litter of show quality pups :-)

The enquirys from the stud owner are also after show quality dogs - so there will be some still not with homes to go to.

You also get the people who you would not sell a stuffed toy to!
- By totalboxermad [gb] Date 08.03.05 20:26 UTC
Thanks for taking time out to reply, the advice much appreciated
- By totalboxermad [gb] Date 08.03.05 20:09 UTC
Forgive my ignorance and stupidity for not doing my homework first, never bred before and totally new at this, yes i my have been stupid but all i wanted was advice from breeders. The advice given is much appreciated and to the silly remarks no comment
- By polly_45 [gb] Date 08.03.05 21:27 UTC
IVE PMD YOU
- By totalboxermad [gb] Date 18.03.05 15:58 UTC
Hi polly_45 ave sent u e-mail
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / boxer pups

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