Hi i have a collie x. hes 1year 11mnths. how can i get him to come the minute i call him? sit when i tell me etc?? without having to repeat instrustions?? HELP PLEASE.

Have you tried taking him to training class? ;) It is hard to advise on here as you haven't given any info on him and importantly, yourself :)

Why don't you register and give a little more information and then perhaps somebody on here can give you a bit more advice when they know a few more facts :)

It is simple you spend time training him & go to a dog training class to learn how to do it. There are no quick fixes in training dogs & some are easier than other & some owners find it easier to train dogs than others

Basically you need to educate your dog that coming to you is more rewarding that whatever else it was doing. I use a mixture of titbits & toys & do all the training off lead in private a low distraction area. I just very basic commands If I want my dog to come I use his name & the word come & when he does so he gets a titbit. I don't teach a sit etc as such as all dogs can sit etc but what you what is the dog to sit etc when told. So if my dog comes to me & starts to sit I will say sit & then treat when he has sat. I gradually give the command earlier & earlier until he is sitting when I say sit. I don't use hands on to place my dogs in position because I don't do hands on training at all.

There are as many training methods as there are trainers some use hands off methods & some do hands on, there are clicker trainers & sadly there are still the old check & choke them brigade. There will be a method which will suit your dog & most are motivational nowadays thank goodness. If i can teach a nine year old X breed to do obedience I'm sure with a little work your dog will become a happy trained dog

>If i can teach a nine year old X breed to do obedience I'm sure with a little work your dog will become a happy trained dog<

Yes but Mm, you have lots of experience with dogs :) as I understand it, you also work with problem dogs and we don't know anything about the guests experience. Some people, through experience, learning and understanding of dogs are very on the ball with training but sadly, some people never learn, I look at training as an art that I certainly still have a lot to learn. As we all know, sometimes it's easier to unwittingly train in what you don't want than what you do want :)

I have never been more aware of that than now :D :D

Maybe you've inadvertently 'taught' him that if he doensn't respond the first time it doesn't matter as you'll keep repeating the command until he finally just tunes it out?

Try 'going back to basics'. Clicker training might work as some dogs will work harder/quicker to get you to 'click and treat'. Enrolling in a class will let an experienced person show you what exactly you're doing wrong and will help you find the best training method that works for your dog.

Good luck  :-)

But the OP's dog isn't two yet ! That's why he/she will still be quite trainable but as I advised needs the guidance of a club training classes to find out what works which can never be done over the Net. My X breed actually did competitive obedience heance the analogy with the OP's young dog

To get a dog to come back fast & immediately it needs to think coming back is more rewarding than going on doing whatever it was doing before being called, whcih goes for all the responses we require from the dog

Ah Moonmaiden waht happens when you have an independant soul who learnt that doing ehr own thing is far more interesting than doing what you want :D  Mine is 5 1/2 who came back at 8 1/2 months old.  The usual things seemed to work OK at first until she got her feet under the table.  She knows damn well that I won't go off and leave her (well I have been known to go so far) because I would be afraid of ehr getting run over if she tried to make her own way home, and thnks returning to me is when she is good and ready :(.

As I will always say it's difficult to help over the net but my little mongrel was never off lead anywhere she could get away from me She was around 9 years old when I got her & a quite nervous bitch. I never knew what would frightened her

I always trained her on a empty stomach(hers that is) so tht she was keen for food & I always gave her food whenever she came back. There is a method called Volhard (I think)& the food reward is given from the the handlers mouth. Fine it you like meat but being a non meat eater I could never use it. I have friends who say it works well for difficult dogs as it takes the dog back to being fed by it mother

I always train off lead at home for everything(including breed !)& have a close relationship with all the dogs I have trained whether they are mine or other peoples.

I did train a cardigan corgi upto competition standard & if there was ever an independant free thinking working/pastoral breed the cardi is the one, lol he was like training a tibetan breed had to be pursuaded it was all his idea :)

You do have the added interest of having a fairly natural hunting breed ;) I would be very tempted to whistle train her along the lines of a pavlov dog  you never know it might work, only thing is if people think you are a bit eccentric now using a whistle every mealtime for the dogs would probably confirm it  :O

Oh yeah I do have a lot more luck if I take treats on the walk, especially high value ones. 

Unfortunately I then have my oldie doggin my heels and whining at me for it, as in her logic she came and she should then get it.  Can't seem to convince her that the treat is only given if I call her not if she self recalls.

Unfortunately in the day to day management it is just easier to keep Jozi on a flexi if we go anywhere unfamiliar whenr I don't know of the hazaeds should her curiosity get the better of her.  In our Country Park walks if she does a bunk I just refuse to wait for her.  when she realises I am no longer where she left me and has to search me out (when she finds me she tells me off :D), then she is much more co-operative on next few off lead walks.

It was quite funny recently.  someone looking into the breed went for a walk with me so I could show them how they tended to be off lead.  I wanted to demonstrate how much more difficutl it is if the early training on recall is ommitted (she came back to me as an adolescent). 

I let her off expecting her to range off and come back once she had done the preliminary reconoitre.  What happened?  Well she barely went more than 20 yards, when caled back did a lovely present (from the basice obedience classes).  I then sent her to heel, and ofr a laught told her to heel and did some tight heelwork, and what do you think, she did it like a pro!!!  She was showing off.  On this occasion she was more curious as to who and what this person was about. 

On another occasion she would pretend she had never learnt any command. :D

The others, especially the oldsters tend to do just enough not to make me cross, don't go too far out of sight, come back every so often when called, but if they really want to go somewhere they wait until I am distracted (usually doing poo pick up), and then make a beeline for the out of bounds place, usually the park bins, gap in the hedge where someone puts bread out in the garden etc, they then pretend they can't hear me.  then the Crafty so and sos will kreep along from the place I didn't want them to go and come around behind me I am surertrying to con me into thinking they were somewhere else entirely and came as soon as I called :D

Life with Elkhounds is never dull.  Of course you have centuries of being bred for self reliance and thinking on their feet and making their own decisions and judgements. 

Once they have their prey at bay and the hunter arrives they are usually close enough to be in the sphere of influence to be more easily recalled :D  and that because they expect theeir reward from the kill.  It has been noted that if hunters fail to give the dog a trophy from the kill that the dog won't hunt for them.  It is quite common for hunters to lend each other a dog, so I think the dogs are very much working for themselves, and co-operation with the handler is secondary :D  Also Have heard though it may be old wives tale, that a dog won't work for an incompetent hunter.

LOLOLOLOL I know the feeling of a dog making you eat your words Beardies are past masters at that especially if you want to show them being naughty they are as good as gold

It is wise to keep her on lead & it is the only time I would use a flexi lead(as I did with my X breed)they are definitely not to be used for road walking

Yes I have found itm easier to accept defeat and only let her off where she is safe when I am in no hurry otherwise she stays on the flexi.

Interestingly she is so good on the flexi, knows exactly how long it is, doesn't go wrong way around obstacles or anything.

when I tried training on a 30 foot long line she was perfect while I had the line in hand or was close enough to tread on it, but she very quickly worked out the distance needed for hrr to be able to stick two fingers up :D  On the flexi or line her recalls were excellent :D

Now that is one smart dog well bitch LOLOLOLOL She sounds very much like my hill bred BC He always knew what was coming next & how far to go, Hill bred dogs are much less submissive that the lowland BCs as they sometimes work out of sight & earshot of the shepherd & have to make decisons for themselves. They don't make good obedience dogs as they do a lot of thinking on their feet, they sure are fun dogs to own tho' as you never know quite what they will think of next

And to cap it all you should see her show me up in the ring!!!  she has a sense of occasion though as she can be just perfect in a big stakes class or the group, doesn't seem to realise that getting there is easier if she behaves in the breed class :D

ROFLMAO typical :D