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- By katherine [es] Date 18.02.05 21:22 UTC
buying puppy somethimes i had a feeling they don't want to tell You too much. On the other hand they are trying to convince You, that their puppies are the best. Before I go thousands kilometers and spend quite a lot of money for my dreamed puppy what should I ask for ( instead of pass and other documents) not feeling I'm buying pig in a poke...photos? Of course I have thousands questions, but whats the package demand when buying from proffessional breeder?
- By Polly [gb] Date 18.02.05 22:04 UTC
First before you go, find out as much as you can about the breed you want to get. Then write a list of questions you can refer to and will not forget to ask the breeder of your puppy anything you think is important or relevant. Once you have visited the breeder, go home and think about the puppies, did they look content was the puppy area clean, did the puppies look healthy? If you can answer yes to these questions and get the "right" answers to your questions, then contact the breeder to reserve a puppy.

I always ask potential buyers to go home and think things over very carefully for at least 24 hours. If after that they still want one of my puppies, and I think they are  likely to be good owners, then they can reserve a puppy. You will find responsible breeders will be trying to find out from you, if you will be a good owner, not just trying to sell you a puppy. A good breeder will issue you with a diet sheet, some food, and other essential items to make the pups transition from their care to yours as smooth as possible. They will also keep in touch with you and expect you to remain in contact with them, letting them know how you are getting on with your puppy.
- By katherine [es] Date 19.02.05 09:02 UTC
Thanks Polly
It's not my first time actually; breed carefully choosen, searching done, breeders list with references completed, list of questions prepared,
but...
I can't visit breeder twice before and after my decision, because its too far in another country. J have problem with confidence. If Kennel is very, very reputable, it's enough to hear "we have excellent dogs"?????
They don't seem to be interested much in answering hundreds of  questions, because they've puppies reserved for next year, You now what I mean?
- By archer [gb] Date 18.02.05 22:05 UTC
Not sure what you mean by 'PACKAGE DEMAND'.Proffessional breeder is probably not a good term to use...reputable would be better.
What to do....
ask questions
answer questions
BE HONEST!!
A responsible breeder just wants the best for their babies.....theres no other 'ulteria' motive....just good old fashioned love and caring
Archer
- By katherine [es] Date 19.02.05 09:12 UTC
Hello archer,
You are right - reputable is much better from professional - tell me how to check the reputation? How can I possibly get contacts to other owners of the puppies from this Kennel I'm going to take puppy from ? This is reputation checking isn't it? I asked breeder once or twice for e-mails to get in touch with them (if they don't mind of course), no answer... May be they do?
- By LindyLou [gb] Date 18.02.05 22:11 UTC
I'll come at it from a breeders point of view, if you don't mind ;)

I have to feel that I am welcoming a future friend into the family when I first speak to would be owners. If I don't feel right then I try to put these people off getting a puppy. I will tell them all the bad points (muddy beds, carpets, walls...) and if that doesn't put them off I will then talk about the good points. I encourage them to come up before they choose a pup, as I want to meet them, and to let them see just what the breed looks like, especially important if they have never seen one in the flesh. Not everyone realises just how big my breed can be.

Then, and only then, do we discuss what they will get.

Of course the puppy should be (in my opinion) 8 weeks old. My pups are all microchipped before they go to their new homes - at no extra cost to the new owners. They will have been wormed, and you should be told when, and also when they are due to be wormed next. Copies of KC Registration documents should be to hand, and signed by the breeder. Check to see if there is any endorsement. A copy of their pedigree (usually 5 generations, but not always) should also be present. A sample bag of the puppy food they were weaned onto should be given, as well as advice on how much to feed, and when. I also give a piece of bedding away with the pup that smells of its litter mates.

I can't think of anything else at the moment, but I've probably forgotten something :) someone else will probably keep me right :D

Above all else, make sure that you see mum interact with the pups. Don't listen to any excuses eg 'She's a bit mucky just now - we've just been for a walk. ' or ' I don't want the pups trying to suckle', though there may be a valid reason for the last one, don't be shy about asking why.
- By thomas-the-spot [gb] Date 19.02.05 07:16 UTC
Katherine I am not being critical but you seem to be giving the impression you are treating this the same way you would be buying a car for instance.  A photograph will show very little apart from a cute puppy it wont show the conditions the dog is kept in or a number of other things. 

If anyone contacts me for a puppy I explain every bad point of my breed then if they still want one or are aware of these then we go onto the further stage.  Any reputable buyer will want what is best for the puppy and not just be trying to convince you to buy.

You will have to explain whether you want a show pup or one for a pet.  I am now very cautious of people who say they want a show pup because in my last litter I had 3 people who said that was what they wanted then never have bothered to show the dog. I think now it is just a ploy to get the best pup.

I am afraid if you want the best puppy it might well mean travelling lots of miles and not neccesary getting what you want when you get there. :)
- By katherine [es] Date 19.02.05 09:25 UTC
well, well thomas-the-spot,
what can I say? Completely wrong impression and misunderstanding. Pity!
Your last judgement   -  thats exactly what I want to avoid.
But thanks anyway...........
- By katherine [es] Date 19.02.05 09:16 UTC
Thanks Lindylou !
very practical suggestions!
Thanks a lot
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 19.02.05 09:40 UTC
If they don't seem to be answering questions now then I wouldn't expect them to answer them when you got the puppy and if it had any problems.  I have people phoning me for months and months before and asking me questions.  I have one family who will be coming from France for a pup from my next litter and they will be travelling to see me before the litter is born, once the litter is born and then to pick the pup up.  They are British thouh so of course they will be doing other things during this time.

Good luck in your search though.
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 19.02.05 10:16 UTC
Hi Katherine, and welcome to Champdogs!

As I understand it, you have researched the breed that you want, but you cannot get what you want in your country, and are having to look abroad to get it.  Am I correct?   Would I also be correct in assuming that you are looking to show?breed?

I do understand that you can't always travel as far as you want to see a puppy - I have seen some absolutely wonderful looking puppies on the internet that, if circumstances were different, I might want to get, but I would be worried as to whether a reputation from hundreds (maybe thousands) of miles away might be "improved" from a distance.   What I would suggesst, and what I would do in these circumstances is to ask reputable breeders in your own country what they know of the breeder you are thinking of going to.   Most people are so helpful - and, if s/he is a breeder of repute, it should not be too difficult to get feedback.   Otherwise, I would say, go with your own instincts - if you feel you are not getting answers to the questions that you are asking, go elsewhere.   After all, if you cannot have confidence in the breeder BEFORE you get a puppy, how can you have confidence afterwards?

It may take you longer to get your puppy, it is a case of building relationships, I think.

Hope this is of some help - and I do hope you get YOUR puppy eventually.   What breed are you looking at?

Regards
Margot
- By katherine [es] Date 19.02.05 12:44 UTC
Yes, yes and yes! Thank You Margot!
- By Kerioak Date 19.02.05 18:36 UTC
I also have an email list where my "puppy owners" can talk to each other as well as me and if a potential buyer that I am happy with, shows an interest they can join the list and chat to existing buyers.
- By katherine [es] Date 19.02.05 18:54 UTC
It should be routine... You are well known dog lovers in U.K...
- By Cava14Una Date 19.02.05 19:57 UTC
What a good idea :D
Anne
- By sam Date 19.02.05 17:02 UTC
Katherine, I believe that it is "my" breed that you are interested in? If you PM me I can let you have info regarding reputable breeders either here in UK or closer to you (Poland?)
- By katherine [es] Date 19.02.05 18:32 UTC
hopefuly Yes Sam... I've just passed You PM, but it was my first time, I'm not shure about it. I've passed it to Sam, simply using Your name. Is it OK?
- By katherine [es] Date 19.02.05 20:38 UTC
Hello again Sam
I tried once more with PM, hopefuly now is OK? Please answer.... Thanks....
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