hi all im looking for help out of my litter of 7 pups im sure one is deaf when people enquire about pups they allways ignore him because of this should i contact boxer rescue to see if they can help me i will keep him until a very good home is found if anyone has any links i would be gratefull

You should be prepared to keep this puppy yourself - after all, you took the responsibility for him when you mated your bitch.    Hopefully, you may find the right family for him, but he is YOUR responsibility.  

Margot

Dog mad
where abouts in the country are you...may know of someone whos interested?
Archer

hi i live in the west midlands

Will do some 'research' and then PM you...might take a little while but will PM you one way or the other
Nikki

yes lokis mum i know he is my responsibility but please dont jump down my throat when ive just come on to ask a question none of us know what our pups are going to end up like i dont know of a test that detects deafness before they are born why do YOU

thanks  nicky

Sent you a PM

Has the litter been BAER tested? It's the only way to know for sure. In breeds where hereditary deafness is known to occur it's sensible to only mate adults who've been tested normal.

Ideally you won't rehome this puppy to anyone - this is your responsibility I'm afraid. It's not really fair to get breed rescue involved.

I don't see the problem with homing this pup as long as its done to someone who is suitable
Archer

yes both parents passed all the tests just bad luck that he is deaf

hes such a lovely dog 5 weeks old now weighs a healthy 8lb 2 oz i know traing him will be hard though

They've both been BAER tested normal in both ears? With certificates? It's unusual (though obviously not unheard of) to get a bilaterally deaf one after such a mating.

i know theres more of a chance with him being white but i just feel sad for him

Please have him tested. He's old enough, and then you'll know for sure. Details of testing centres can be found here.

Did you check that the stud dog you used had been BAER tested?  I presume that your bitch had been tested - I didn't mean to jump down your throat - but it is the downside to breeding, that we do have responsibility for those non-perfect puppies, and cannot expect that Rescue will cope with them.    These posting are read and referred to by guests, who just "pop by" - and sadly, someone reading your comments (I appreciate that you say you would keep him until a good home came along) could think that Rescue will also cope with Rejects :(

Margot

Exactly, Margot. It's a good breeder's responsibility to find homes for (or keep) all their puppies, 'rejects' (I have one, so no slur intended) as well as the good ones, not Breed Rescue's. It's very much a downside of breeding.

thanks for the information but i never intended to breed. my dogs are purley pets i got them both  in sep 2003 and my girl had her first seaon last year we kept the male apart and when they were together she wore pants . when she started to swell i took her to the vet and he said it was a phantom pregnancy as he did twice more but then i started feeling movement when i took her back he said oh yes shes pregnant i feel really let down by him if it was sorted earlier i would have had choices for her as soon as she is ok they are both booked in to be done but i am trying my best with theses pups and they wont go to any one who i havnt vetted thouroughly and home checked ive been rearing them myself since they were 2 weeks as she isnt interested its hard but ive taken time of work so they get the best of care and weaning has went great

i would also like to say this forum has been a life saver reading the posts on weaning helped a lot

DOG MAD

Have PM'd you with an e mail contact who is possibly interested in giving you lad a home....click on message at top of page and you will find it

Let me know when you've read it

Nikki

Well, it looks as if Archer might be able to come up trumps for you  - that's one of the good things about this board :D

However, I would strongly urge you to have your girl spayed as soon as possible - I think that your vet will agree that about 12 weeks after the pups birth is a good time.    You have been unfortunate, if as you say, both parents have been tested, but you have still finished up with a white, deaf puppy.   This will almost certainly happen again - and although you took precautions last time she was in season, you weren't successful in keeping them apart, and it will, almost certainly happen again.

You said that you had them both as pets - so it would be best if she were neutered - bettr for you too, I think!

Margot

Where is it said that because both parents are BAER tested that there won't be a deaf white puppy?  I'm interested in reading that.  Anything I've read has stated that there is always a chance of a deaf puppy unless you breed plain Boxer to plain Boxer as flashies and whites carry the genetic trait for deafness.

To the OP:

I have a deaf white Boxer and he has been a complete blessing.  If you have room in your home for another dog I would suggest that you keep him for yourself.  Having a deaf dog is an experience in itself and can be very rewarding.

>Where is it said that because both parents are BAER tested that there won't be a deaf white puppy?

Nowhere! If both parents are BAER tested and both have bilateral hearing ;) then the chances of a totally deaf puppy are very much reduced. If one or both are unilaterally deaf (undetectable otherwise) then the chances are higher.

Margot
the 'potential' home is with a family as a pet and companion to a westie....leaving the rest to the 2 parties but hope things work out for the little chap
Archer

Fingers crossed that it works out for everyone - as you say, you've put them in touch with each other - CD is good for this sort of thing :D

Margot

I see...so the idea here is that if both colored Boxers (who I've never seen mention have a case of deafness) are BAER tested and test 'normal' or 'hearing' then the thought is that there will be a lower instance of deafness in the litter?

This isn't the case...perhaps in other breeds but not Boxers.  The cause of deafness in Boxers is a genetic cause.  The trait is carried by all flashy and white Boxers.  Therefor if you don't want deaf puppies you breed plain to plain.  Adversely, the highest instance of deaf puppies, genetically speaking, would be those born to 2 white parents. 

To the OP:  what colors are the sire and dam?

Dogmad...

Actually training a deaf puppy is quite easy as dogs respond more quickly to body language and hand signals than spoken language.  It's the attention getting that can be difficult.  Try using a pen light (use it like a clicker...on and off, on and off) or a laser pointer.  Once you get his attention you can start to teach him signs.  :)

Here is an excellent website where you can learn about deaf dogs and how to deal with them.  You can also offer the dog for adoption on that page, but it might be for the US only...not sure.   Either way, it's a great resource for learning about these dogs.

http://www.deafdogs.org/

Yes...it's a US site typically but they may post for you...obviously people outside of the US look at the site.  :)  I should have thought to post the url...it's a great resource!

thank you all for your help i just want the best for all the puppies. ive spoke to the vet and they are both booked in for 8 weeks time . so no more accidents. i know it was my fault and i feel bad because i didnt do enough at the time but im trying to make the best of it and give the pups a good start in life . thank you to nikki ive sent an email i hope it works out

Glad that you feel you have had help here - sorry if I sounded very hard - and good luck in the future - at least you won't have any more worries!

Margot

www.deaf-dogs.co.uk may help on the communication front, Barry Eaton had a deaf BC and since then has done lots of training specifically with deaf dogs.

As a homechecker for the RSPCA, I was involved in placing  a deaf white boxer (adult) to a lovely couple and he is still the apple of their eye. They had no children and i think they really enjoyed the responsibility of helping him out and training him. They were one of those rare homes actually looking for a dog with problems :)

Good luck
Lindsay
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thank you all for your help

My parents have a deaf white lurcher, she is a rescue and they had her from 16 weeks.  She is really obedient (apart from her chase instinct which is more a lurcher thing than a deaf dog thing) my dad has competed with her in obedience classes at exemption shows and she has her KCGC bronze award.  She wasnt difficult to train and my parents wouldnt be without her.  Barry Eatons book is well worth a read :)