I don't know how other people are feeling at the moment, but I am certainly getting very fed up with other posters trying to ridicule good advice honestly and freely given.

I may not be the worlds best scholar but I do know dogs and have had more years than I care to remember living with a number of dogs, breeding them, rearing them and loving them in sickness and in health.

In two recent threads I have given advice that I felt was relevant to the thread only to have it IMO ridiculed. I can accept that other people have different opinions to mine and on a number of occasions over the years have had to agree that they may be correct.  But the sarcasm that is going on on here recently has really got my goat. I was always taught that sarcasm was the lowest form of wit, maybe that is now old hat!!!

So from now on folks, I'll keep my advice to myself.  I'll continue to visit the board and may well join in with some threads, but will give advice elsewhere to people who appreciate it.

Sorry for the rant but some people seem to get a kick out of flaming and I'm not playing that game, got better things to do.

Sensible advice should always be posted Jayne, and yours is advice based on years of experience. I for one would be very sorry if you did not post on here. There is some posting here who base their advice on a very limited experience of few dogs and as we all know, what suits one does not always suit all. It's after a lifetime in dogs that you have the depth of experience to fall back on.

You are needed here!

Very best wishes, John

The amount of knowledge I have gained since visiting this site Lady Dazzle is amazing and I couldn't have got it if it wasn't for experienced people like you answering posts.  I hope that one of these days I'll be experienced enough myself to be able to offer advice.

There will always be the minority few who don't know how to take advice with good grace however please don't let that put you off posting. 

I for one and grateful to you and the many other regular experienced owners and breeders who post on here!!

Hayley..x  :-)

Jayne, I for one shall be very sorry if you don't post on here any more.   Your advice is sound, well-put, and obviously comes from years of experience, and for all these reasons, it is extremely valuable.    Don't forget, posts are stored on here, and for everyone who comes on here and just asks, without doing any research, then flames back when the response isn't the desired one, there may well be half a dozen people who do read, learn, and inwardly digest!

You will be sorely missed if you do decide not to post any more :( - 99.99% of us will miss you - and we're the ones who matter :D

Margot

Agree with John here, there are a number of regular posters who are feeling like lone voices in the wilderness, don't let those voices be even fewer, sometimes advice does not fall on stoney ground, but reaps a bountiful harvest.

I know exactly what you mean, Lady D! ;)  It may be difficult for newbies to differentiate, but those who hang around, or have read old posts going back for many years, soon learn the difference between those who post good advice based on their extensive experience (like you!) and those who just post because they like the sound of their own voices!! :(
I've read a good few posts recently that have produced a sharp intake of breathe!!  I now chose to ignore everything that these folk post - they don't deserve the courtesy of a reply!

Good advice Val, provided the person needing advice does not only get bad advice. People such as yourself and Jayne are badly needed.

Best wishes, John

Most of the time I enjoy chatting to people on some threads there are some lovely people on here and I hope you stay and continue to join in. If it makes you feel any better, I had some busybody poster from this site actually e-mail me to my home and slag me off and continued doing so for several days because she didn,t agree with my comments. She was what I was warned about when I joined this site. However, her comments were not justified and was only worthy of ignoring, and I am still here, I wont let people get to me like that.
CHIN UP MATEY!!!

REGARDS X

Hi Lady D,

I'm with John and Val on this - visitors to this board need the feedback of the most experienced and knowledgable people ;)   It's good to get a cross section of views on many of the topics but some questions need a dyed-in-the-wool dog person on hand to identify the best way forward.

I've read this board on and off for years before joining and learned much from it as must have hundreds (or more) others.  I rarely post - usually because others have already given valuable info on a topic that doesn't need my tuppence worth added but occasionally because when I have posted something I've felt that certain others go out of their way to decry what's being suggested "shock, horror" :D so I end up thinking what's the point.  BUT, there is a point, if advice given elsewhere is incorrect (IMO) or doesn't provide the poster with all the facts on which to make an informed decision on which route to take.

My usual long winded way of answering :P in short, "Don't let them get to you!"

Regards, Teri :)    

I admit to "rising to it" on a few occasions, but at times it really gets to me that a string of people come along with good sound advice only to have it spoiled by a couple of people who seem to take a perverse enjoyment out of encouraging someone to do something totally irresponsible. We all have certain subjects that we feel more strongly about than others. Please dont leave...good advice is needed in abundance, and unlike me, you seem to be able to remain calm in adversity, which is what is needed. I am sure that most people on here have learned things from this board. :D

Okay Okay

I give in. I'll hang about, you lot have made me feel really guilty now for my rant :-D  Maybe I'm just having bad day :-(

I just get so frustrated at some of the determinedly nasty posters we get sometimes.

I suppose unfortunately I still haven't got my head round the idea that not everyone out there with dogs have the same views as I do as to what is acceptable behaviour, either on the internet or elsewhere.

I often put myself into the original posters shoes, and think how confusing some of these threads must be, particularly when the nastiness creeps in.  Still if we keep answering questions maybe some of them will realise that the majority of us on here are just trying to help.

Thanks guys, you have all helped restore my faith in the fact that there are still some nice people out there ;-)

Jayne
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YE-HAR!!!!!

Glad you're staying - just hang on in there!!!!

Margot

Me too Margo!

Best wishes, John

Glad you're not going.  I don't often post, but have learnt a huge amount from yourself and others.  I can understand how frustrating it is sometimes, but those who post to wind things up show themselves up rather than their knowledge (or opinions).   I don't think they even realise that people are less likely to listen to any advice when given in such a way.  To novices like me they still stand out a mile, so please keep posting.

Hang on in there! Good unbiased advice, based on experience, is always valuable, even if there are people who disagree it. The rest of us are happy to learn all we can!

Yes don't leave it to the "sarckies" and the ones that shout the loudest :) stick on in there with the sensible advise.

A good friend of mine had a saying which applies to this "opinions are like bottoms (although that wasnt the word which was used!) everyones got one!"

Us 'long termers' need to stick together....there are too many people that seem to come on just to cause an arguement...lets not let them spoil it for us and others who visit in order to gain advise and help
Archer

Agree with you absolutely, Archer - I know I've gained immensely from this forum and am happy to share what I have learned - and I value the support that is so freely given by the Champdog Veterans!!!!

Margot

To add my pennies worth, in the year that I have been on here, the advice that I have received has been invaluable :) as well as the reading and learning. We never stop learning until the day we die, some people don't take heed of this.

On many occasions CD has put my mind at rest and has also been a sounding board for when I get aggitated by petty things and it has seemed that nobody else in the literal world understood. ;) I've learnt who to trust. I haven't been on here as long as many of you, but the ones that I heed are the "old timers", and I don't mean that in a derogatory term :P

Its a bl***y good job you are stopping, otherwise I would of sent Tom's son round to sort you out! :D
Dawn.

I have be reading this site for a couple of years now, and only just managed to log on !, but have learnt an awful lot from you experienced people. I have been with dogs most of my life, and now help with rescue, and every day is a learning curve.The world would be a very boring place if we all thought the same, I for one value your advice, and experience is one thing that I will always respect.

Hang on in there, and keep giving the advice, we need it!!:)

Well I've taken a back seat for ages before putting up any post's and constructive critism I can take ,Like I'm a crap speller but I love my breed with a passion. But I have seen the newbies come and go and the stayers are the ones that will put themselves out, not for themselves but for our four legged friends. And I enjoy the wealth of all you dog people so for the few that are easily offended that's there problem. Let them sulk but dont budge an inch.

Jayne,

Glad you've decided to stay, you're right there are a number of posters who come on here just to ask a question and wind people up :rolleyes: don't let them get to you, they're not worth it.  My grandad had a saying "you can't educate pork, you can only cure it"  ;)  - I never understood him when he was alive but now I'm older, it makes total sense to me :D :D

Keep giving your sound advice - even if its not well received, there will always be someone who dislikes what they are told and the more sense it makes the worse they like it ;)

Jayne,

as the newest person in the forum and  first time dog owner I'm sorry but you don't get away that easy.  I'm  looking to you to help me with our new Border Terrier! Only 7 days to go and I have just finished Verite Collins book.  No you need to be here.

Now listen here Jayne, don't go away - you add to the whole tapestry of advice here. Don't be put off by the comments. I have made so many friends on this site, John, Mattie, Kayc, Hairypooch to mention just a few who can be counted on to give you support when you need it.

Please stay.

Hi L/D, glad to hear you`re staying :D
Take no notice of posters who only to want to wind folk up, waste of space they are ;(
Save your time & energy for us who want your advice :D

Christine, Spain.

Glad you saw reason and you are staying ! It may well have been a bad day and the rant was a necessary way to let off your frustration ! Don't let it get to you!  When somebody pees me of on here or even at work instead of replying back straight away I leave it until the next day to do something.That way you have time to calm down and you either decide to not bother replying as why waste your breath :)  or alternatively you can reply in a far more constructive way without the emotion which alway helps :)

Glad you are staying :)

Lucy
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Tell me who they are sis and I'll send Oscar round ;)  Can't have my big sis dissapearing as I will def get alcoholic poisoning then if I have to drink all alone :D

Lady D, I have always valued your advice, I'm pleased that you are going to keep contributing.

dont go!!!!!!
wouldnt be the same without you!!!!!

Okay I'm back see my post today on Breeding Board.

Threw my dummy out of my pram, got out and picked it up, put it back in mouth and normal me has been resumed LOL :-D

___

Sis, if you send that Oscar down here you won't get him back specially if he brings that gorgeous chesnut boy of yours with him!!!!

Couldn't sleep if I had your drinking on my conscience, its bad enough already :-D :-D

xx

I am relatively new to this board, and to breeding.
The advice I got when my bitch whelped was fantastic, if it wasn't for one person my bitch would have ended up very poorly, so please stick around,  people might not like the advice you give but a lot of us NEED people with your experience

Best wishes
Lydia

Come on, dont let them b****rs get you down, we need you.  When I first arrived here a year ago I thought I knew everything, ;)  without yourself, John, Mattie, Brainless Tohme ?????, and many others, I would have gone on blindly believing this. With your help, now I really do know everything :D :D.  Just kidding..    We need people like yourself

Oh, I believe I have missed out my dear, dear friend Christine, without whom I would still be unable to do LINKS  (Tounge in cheek smiley)  :D

I don't post alot on here I'm one of the readers who learns from all the great advice given on this forum from all the experenced dog lovers like yourself.
I have had my dogs for a year so I am still learning and I would of been lost if it was not for this wonderful forum alot of you need a pat on the back.
So keep up the good work. I know it's hard but don't let them wind you up
and I would like to say a big THANK YOU for all the advice I have recieved over the past year.

Sharon

There was me thinking it was always me who showed folks how to do links :D

There maybe a few people who come on here and dont want advice but for everyone of them there are at least 3 people who read the posts that will learn something, I know I learn from questions others ask.
Mary

Mel me thinks I was one of the last to be able to do links, had it explained soooo many times by everyone when it finally sunk in I just have to show off how to do em :blush: even worse was when someone asked how to do em admin put the post up with me being told for umpteenth time how to do em :double blush:
:D :D
Christine, Spain.

Glad you're stopping too Lady D!

Kayc - you mentioned Tohme in your post and I suddenly thought, long time no see or hear.  (16th December to be precise, according to Search.) Does anyone know if she is still about or has she done what Lady D was threatening to do?  If so, great pity as she gave me a lot of good advice on my GSP when I was pulling my hair out at his various antics and wondering if I had bitten off more than I could chew.

Sorry if I've touched a political nerve with anyone by asking after Tohme....genuine question.

I think that it's probably reasonable to say that all of us "oldies" have got p***ed off at sometime with newbies coming along and after spouting rubbish, then criticising us!
Having dusted ourselves off and seeing that if we don't post then all that's left is either unhelpful advice at best and dangerous advice at worst, we then stick around and do our best to pass on our lifelong experience to those who want to listen! :)
The bullsh**ers go away in the end! ;)

I've just read this post and I'm absolutely appalled that you have had to write this Lady D. 

May I just say that you have given me some excellent advice on borders since I first started posting and I have valued all of it.  In fact you have even taken the trouble to email me personally on some questions I've had.  Isn't that why we novice dog owners join the forum in the first place?  To get advice from those more knowledgeable?

People are people and will never always agree, but on forums, all I can say to everyone is, if you ask for advice at least listen to the answers, even if you don't agree with them.

I for one will miss your posts.

CG

Aha now I have read further on - I see I won't miss your posts after all :D

CG

We are not letting her go, so there! She's got to stay around CG, we need her!

Best wishes, John