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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Priorities of a Commercial Dog Breeder
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.12.04 09:44 UTC
I thought anyone who had any doubts about commercial dog breeding and why this is not a good source for a new family member should read this article here: http://www.pedigreedogs.co.uk/k9bytes/puppyfarming4.htm

You may need to copy and past the address into your web browser
- By sarstaff [gb] Date 22.12.04 12:25 UTC
thanks for posting this, please please dont buy a pup from anyone like this, or a pet shop, you are making it too easy for these people!!!!
- By Teri Date 22.12.04 12:37 UTC
God help these poor breeding bitches and their pups.  We all know this goes on and that the motive is money but somehow reading it in black and white from a puppy farmer's own words makes it even more disgusting. :mad:  If only that article could be reproduced in the national press and every rescue centre throughout the country :(

Teri
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.12.04 12:40 UTC
It should be placed at the head of every freeads and newspaper Pets for sale column, headed you choose the kind of breeder to buy from.
- By sarstaff [gb] Date 22.12.04 13:28 UTC
i just wish more people could read this interview, whats stopping us, prining it off and putting it on work notice boards, in librarys, at ringcraft, or even posting it to pet shops etc??   what about the ones who are kept back for breeding, the ones who find homes are the lucky ones, but by giving them homes we are adding to this vicious circle. I feel so sad.
- By Isabel Date 22.12.04 14:22 UTC
Errrrr, you guys do realise this is a spoof article don't you?.  Can't see the point of it really, the reality is bad enough, making stuff up seems to detract from that if you see what I mean.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.12.04 14:49 UTC
I didn't see it was a spoof, and I don't think many such breeders would think their attitude strange.

Will have to email the site for clarification.
- By Isabel Date 22.12.04 14:52 UTC
The breeder is called "Hugh Jincumb" say it fast :) 
I just feel facts speak much louder and this sort of stuff may actually put people off believing anything they are told about unethical breeders.
- By sarstaff [gb] Date 22.12.04 14:56 UTC
what do you mean, the article was written prosuming what a puppy farmer would say??   why would they do that? 
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.12.04 14:56 UTC
Me thick or what.  Mind you I was quite prepred to beleive it having once spoken to such a breeder who pretty well said the same things, and couldn't understand why people got so hot under the collar, as they are only dogs!.
- By Isabel Date 22.12.04 15:15 UTC
To me it is not very helpful as apart from being untruthful it depicts a very stereotypical puppy farmer when infact the waters around puppy farming are so muddy what inexperienced buyers are likely to meet may not come across like this at all.  Some recent convictions of cruelty have been "respectable" show breeders who other breeders have continue to excuse as a case of illness or age or just bad luck and on the other hand some are accused of puppy farming when choosing to place their ex-breeding bitches in comfortable homes.  To my mind a more useful article would show facts, perhaps evidence from court cases of convicted breeders or dealers to convince purchasers why they should care where their puppy comes from and then advise as to what to look for with a warning that it may not be transparent.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.12.04 16:22 UTC
Unfortunately most puppy farming is not ileagal or even particularly bad conditions need apply, it is the fact that pups are getting a poor start inlife not being as carefully reared and fitted for domestic living, and new owners are getting potentially shoddy goods, as the puppy famers/commercial breeders don't care about the health temperametn or breed type of the pups produced, they are on helathy and well adjusted by pure chance.

I have mailed the website asking about the article and asking for them to take on board the comments made here about it actually harming the case against puppy farming if the article is made up.  I appreciate that the name surely must be :D
- By Brainless [gb] Date 24.12.04 01:19 UTC
Here is the reply I received about the article!

"Hi Barbara,

Thanks for your email pointing out the confusion that the article has
caused on the group you refer to.

The article is number 4 in a series of articles on Puppy Farming and
although the names have been changed (the commercial breeder and the
establishment) it is based upon factual conversations that have taken
place between the author and numerous known commercial breeding
establishments.

In viewing the discussions on your group, the initial reaction was
extremely positive until it was identified as a possible spoof. Please
advise your group that the article is to all intents and purposes
factual. The fictitious or spoof names have been used to protect the
author, someone who works extremely hard to expose and bring to
account unscrupulous breeders and relies heavily on anonymity in this
regard.

I would also ask you to point out to the group that the 3 previous
articles, to which there are links at the bottom of the referred
article and below, should be read.

1. Thinking of buying a puppy? - Educate Yourself
http://www.pedigreedogs.co.uk/k9bytes/puppyfarming1.htm
2. Buying a Puppy - does 'registered' really mean anything?
http://www.pedigreedogs.co.uk/k9bytes/puppyfarming2.htm
3. Puppy Farmers - Banking on your continued support
http://www.pedigreedogs.co.uk/k9bytes/puppyfarming3.htm

At Pedigreedogs.co.uk, we are opposed to puppy farming in any form and
by stimulating public awareness through these articles we hope to
support the ultimate eradication of such practices.

I trust this helps to clarify our position and the relevance of the
article.

Kind regards

Lynne
Pedigreedogs.co.uk"
- By Isabel Date 24.12.04 18:20 UTC
If only investigative journalism was this easy :rolleyes: I doubt it would be accepted in any other media.

>In viewing the discussions on your group, the initial reaction was


extremely positive until it was identified as a possible spoof. Please
advise your group that the article is to all intents and purposes
factual
it seems they would prefer everyone to just believe it as read.
They may well have heard all these comments from the several breeders they have spoken to but putting it all together in one spoof interview without any disclaimer seems to me very dishonest and counterproductive.
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Priorities of a Commercial Dog Breeder

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