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Does anyboby have any ideas how to stop a dog doing his business on peoples garden, it's very embarrassing, luckily nobody has noticed as i have managed to clear it up very quickly.
By Daisy
Date 13.12.04 14:12 UTC
If your dog is on a lead then it shouldn't be able to get into people's gardens ?????
Daisy
He can quite easily get onto other peoples gardens while on a lead, i like to let him sniff around a bit.

The only way to stop him doing it there is to not let him be there! I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but letting him onto other people's gardens is completely unacceptable!

If he's on a proper lead (not an extending one, which shouldn't be used anywhere near a road) then you are in control. Keep him on the other side and keep him off!
By nitody
Date 13.12.04 22:28 UTC
I have to agree, if any dog came into my garden on or off a lead I would NOT be happy... especially if it did a poo there.

My front garden only has a low decorative wall around it & on the other side of this is an obviously cultivated strip of garden with a graveled back strip with obviously ornamental grasses planted in it
I get totally cheesed off with the holiday makers using my garden as a toilet for their dogs I frequently embarrass people encouraging their dogs to "sniff around"before they either dump, pee or both on not just the lawned strip but on my grasses too, I have even been gardening in front of the wall when they have been walking pass & they still have encouraged their dogs to go to the toilet, I hand they a bag if it is poo & point out they are trepassing by being on the grass & not the footpath & that their is a fine for not cleaning up the poo
Even if poo is cleaned up there is absolutely NO excuse for letting your dog use someone else's garden as a toilet, when the road is busy in the summer they even walk down the drive & on to my front lawn so their dogs can use the drive & lawn as a toilet. they will get a shock next year as I have just an a watering system installed with the controls inside the house & my lovely handy man has just installed an infrared beam so that when it is disturbed a jet of water will soak them & it works, he might be putting a series of them along the drive, it is also linked into my CCTV so that it will capture all the action, I will enjoy watching the trespassers get what they deserve & they can do nothing about it(handy man is newly retired bobby)
Sorry but people like you who let their dogs mess in peoples gardens get up my nose & you should NOT be allowing him to do so,how would use like your garden smelling like a urinal ?
The thing is, it is in fact better to walk briskly with your dog and then take him somewhere to toilet that is appropriate eg a place used by other dog walkers :)
Is there some reason why your dog toilets like this? Do you have a garden for instance? Its a terrible shame for this to happen, as it sadly tars all dog owners with the same brush and we all end up with the fall out ... I love and adore dogs, but would be furious if a neighbour allowed their dog to mess my garden. I don't mean to be harsh but i feel you need to do some re-thinking ;)
Lindsay
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By chud
Date 14.12.04 13:22 UTC
If you have a garden it would be a good idea to encourage your dog to do his business in your garden before you take him for a walk. I've got a 3 month old puppy and he is as good as gold. I know when he is likely to want to go to the loo and make sure he goes in the garden 1st, before any outing. He hasn't made any mistakes yet, touch wood.... mind you even if he did, it wouldnt be in someone elses garden as he isnt allowed in them!.. :) hope this helps.
By kazz
Date 14.12.04 13:26 UTC
The simpliest way to stop his doing this in peoples gardens is not to let him in the garden.
The idea of a lead is to have control.
I don't don't purposely let him as i know how i would feel myself but by the time i have realised where he is as he is quick he is in the middle of his business, i will in future let him in our back garden before we walk. It is quite difficult as all the front gardens are open plan down our road and i don't want to be constantly pulling him away when he is smelling. I realise this has upset quite a few people but i was just trying to find the best solution to my problem.
Moonmaiden, i have come on here for advice not to be criticised for a problem which i am trying to put right. Of course i would not like my garden used as a urinal. Nobody is perfect everyone makes mistakes this is how we learn. I admit i have done wrong and i am doing my best to amend this as quickly as possible.
By Isabel
Date 14.12.04 14:07 UTC

Do you mean he is off the lead? If he is on the lead I am finding it very difficult to imagine how you don't know where he is on the end of it!
He is on the lead but surprisingly enough the gardens are right next to the pavement on which he walks, i really don't want to explain myself anymore on this matter i feel like i am on trial. I apologise for offending anyone and will sort the matter in my own way.
By Isabel
Date 14.12.04 14:22 UTC

You are not on trial its just, I think, people where finding it hard to understand the circumstances as to it happening until you explained more fully. As others have said it is entirely possible to train you dog to empty on command but there will still be times when they will want to go again when you did not expect it so I think the best way to prevent what you discribe happening is to ensure that when on the lead, on the way to the intended excercise area you keep you pup close to you, in fact use this time as training time for walking to heel. I think this would probably be safer too as presumably these gardens are also where there is vehicular access.

Louise, you're not 'on trial', but letting your dog even walk on other people's gardens isn't good manners. Please keep him walking beside you till you reach your exercise area where he can sniff all he likes.

my dogs are trained to do "quick quicks" & "pooh-poohs" on command.in a appropate place.........
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howver when i just had tara & she used to come out riding with me, & often poopped in someones garden before i could stop her! whoops. i obvisley realise this was bad!
so you arent alone
Thank goodness for that michelle i was beginning to feel as though i was the only person to have made this mistake!!!, will sort him out asap.

hiya again,just to add it will help your general obedience if you control the sniffing abit. dont let him sniff just anywhere -just in "safe" places where it wont matter if he "goes".
you could have a word/command for when its ok to sniff,like "go sniff" & when you are walking past the gardens work on his attention (to you)
Walking to heel is something we are still trying to master, so that probably doesn't help things.

is he food orientated? carry a small tasty bit of food in your hand & later pocket,then you can say "whats this" show him it,do a few steps then reward. then build this up longer & longer. also if hes pulling off to sniff a headcollar will help you direct his head away from the tempting gardens!!!!
Good advice, the idea is to really keep him with you until you decide he can be more "free" if uou like. I know a lot of people do like to let their dogs sniff; my view is that it is best to keep a dog with you and not let it sniff simply because otherwise the dog may end up controlling how long the walk is, where he goes and so on. I see peeps waiting out their dogs for ages, some even reading a newspaper LOL :)
I'm sure things will improve as you practice getting him to be with you. Also do try using a word for toileting, dogs catch on and it really helps esp. if you want to go on a long journey, its brilliant if the dog will make the effort to "go" for you :D
Lindsay
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Very food orientated lol!
By Teri
Date 14.12.04 16:27 UTC

Hi Louise,
You have, like all of us at some point or another, many things to master so don't feel alone on that. In addition your puppy has come to you with so much excess baggage that you are going to need a bit longer than most to address all training issues so keep your chin up ;)
I live fairly close to a newly built estate where none of the front gardens are allowed to have hedging or fencing at all so I know it's easy for our youngsters to "do the deed" as to them there is no boundary!
In time you will both learn all sorts of ways to make life easier for you both - don't let things get you down meantime. I have my lot trained to "go" in the back garden at home before we go out for their exercise but still take spare poo bags for the occasional accident

In fact I even have some in my handbag - can be quite embarassing sometimes :D :D :D
How are you coping with his other issues anyway?
Regards, Teri :)
Hi Teri, thanks for asking, he has come along in leaps and bounds which has totally surprised me, we have the makings of a lovely dog. I think he has just been lacking in love and attention, which he gets plenty now. I have never known such a cuddley dog. The tail has healed up and cough is going. As for his behaviour he is a lot less unruly, hence i am a lot less stressed so all are happy at the moment.
Louise
By Isabel
Date 14.12.04 16:41 UTC

If it was me I would keep him on a short lead while going past peoples gardens so that he could not move off the pavement, if he is strong enough to pull you around I would do as others have mentioned and use a Halti or similar I hope that helps ;)
keep on a lead and if you want him to go around with you then simply train by when he goes on his yard say good boy or when you see him about to go on the yard so you say no and that should help some or let just in the backyard
By TracyL
Date 14.12.04 18:54 UTC
I'd agree with Isabel and the previous post - short lead, halti, and training. I've trained my two to go on command, and they go before we go out. We still take them outside in the garden rather than let them go alone, and make a huge fuss of them both when they perform. It also helps to know what time of day they are likely to need to go due to their routine. They don't cock their legs when on lead either. As long as they've had a good wee before they set off, I find they can hold on til we get to the park before needing to go again - we were told at our training class that anything else is "marking" (though that might be wrong - someone else could perhaps shed light on this) so keep the lead short and don't give them chance to sniff.
Heelwork is another matter - it's one step forwards and two back all the time with Sparky as he's scared of traffic and easily distracted by it when walking along a road. I've found it helps to talk constantly to them as I walk along though - if their heads are up and looking at me, they aren't sniffing out a site to go! It's taking a long time to get there with Sparky and we still have a way to go, though the pup seems to be getting the idea more quickly.
Afraid I have to agree with the majority of posters on the garden issue though.
HTH :)
Tracy
I don't disagree with anything thats been said, this is why we are trying to correct it.

The best way stop it is to keep him moving. He can't wee or poo on the move! Don't let him stop and sniff until you are in a more suitable place - after all, you're in charge, not him ;). If necessary walk him on the other side of you, so that you are between him and the gardens. It's what I do with my dogs, and it works.
:)
Sounds like a good plan!!
By digger
Date 14.12.04 22:41 UTC
Would you like to tell my Springer that? She lays me a veritable paper trail......... I seem to remember the Cocker the family had when I was a kid doing the same......

I must admit my elderly bitch could poo on the move after she became incontinent, and I gather (from watching a Michael Palin travelogue!) that sled dogs in Canada also poo at the run, and the person on the sled has to dodge the flying 'bombs'!

On the whole, though, dogs much prefer to stop ...

I can verify that 'sled dogs' in the UK poo on the run too ;) :D Hudson poos whilst out running on the springer :)
I just cannot believe that people actually allow their dogs to go in other people's gardens! I'm totally stunned - especially for the poster (can't see the name now) who has it happen in their garden all summer long.
When I lived at home, we had two ladies stop for a chat outside our house, and completely ignored their dog who wandered into our front garden for a wee. My mum, being quite neurotic and not the most rational thinker filled up a bowl of water which she proceeded to go outside and pour over the dog (it wasn't a big bowl, and she missed him mostly, she was trying to make a point to the owner). The two ladies went mad, couldn't understand why my mum had reacted to a dog going to the toilet on her lawn - "well he's got to do his business somewhere!"
Millie doesn't 'walk to heel', as I like her to enjoy a sniff around when on a walk, but if she so much as goes to step foot over the line between someone's garden and the pavement, she gets told "OI! Get out of there!" and she knows not to walk in a garden.
Oh and how funny, I'm reading Palin's Around The World in 80 Days at the moment and just yesterday I read that very page on the dog sledding in Canada and the pooing on the run :-D
I would just like to say once again, i do not allow my dog to poo on peoples gardens, it had happened once or twice as i have not been quick enough, now i am aware of it he does not get near the gardens.

honestly guys! poor louise! she was asking for help about a "problem",she realised it was a problem!!!!!she explained why it was a problem!!!!we have NO idea what this rescue dog was allowed to get away with before she got him!!! :)
how is the walking past the gardens going? are you seeing any improvementyet?
Louise - just want to let you know I purposefully worded that so as not to point the finger at you - I was referring to people in general, particularly the people who do it in someone's garden all summer.
For me, its not a 'where do you let your dog go' issue but something further than that. I wouldn't let my child run into someone elses's garden, let alone my dog, and I wouldn't go on to someone's garden/driveway myself unless I was retrieving my own property or had reason to be there - if you don't own it, or are visiting there for a purpose, or are a postman/paperboy etc (and so on) then you have no reason to be crossing the line on to someone's else's property and that's one of the problems with society today is so many people think they have the right to do what they want, where they want and don't care what they damage/break/steal in the process. Gah, gah and thrice gah!
Sorry Louise, its just misfortunate that you brought the subject up that has made you feel some comments are directed at you personally, they're not (and like you say, you have made efforts to stop your dog sneaking on to stranger's gardens, so hurrah for you!) but its the realisation that so many people do do this, and think nothing of it has dumbfounded me!
Right, I've gone off topic slightly, back to the dogs....
Problem sorted thanks all!
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