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- By lydia Date 28.11.04 12:29 UTC
Can you overdose on calcium tablets ?  And if so what would be the signs?

Thanks
- By Brainless [gb] Date 28.11.04 12:40 UTC
Oversupplemetaion of Calcium is as dangerous as a lack of it and will usually manifest in abnormal grpowth of bones.  It also affects some of the metabolic processes.

Many large breed owners and breeders used to supplemt and actually caused the problems in bomne growht they were hoping to avoid.

Also the balance of Calcium and Phosferous have to be just right
- By lydia Date 28.11.04 12:43 UTC
Thought so, my reasons for asking is vet said my bitch had a calcium defficiency she was panting a lot so gave her a shot and said to up her tablets from 1/2 a day to 3 a day and she would pee out any she doesn't need.  So have been doing this giving her last one around 7pm, in the morning she is fine but an hour after having a tablet she is panting again, I just don't know what to do !!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 28.11.04 13:03 UTC
Eclampsia is somet6hing entirely different.  This happens when the bitches body doesn't rally the Calcium reserves from ehr own body when she has ahd a litter and huge amounts are needed for the productiopn of Milk.  Inb this case be guided by your Vet.  the signs she is didplaying are a lack of Calcium.  It is important to give the right sort of Calcium, bog standard Calcium tablets are not the the ones she needs.

when I had a bitch thaat needed supplementing in this way (had been poorly in whelp so had run ehr reserves down) then she had to have Liquid Calcium Calo Cal D, which you cna get through your Vet of a Canine pharmacy.
- By lydia Date 28.11.04 13:07 UTC
I have had a look and found these two,

Collocal D

Calciboost D liquid - I have this one on order, is the other one better??

Thank you for the advice

Edited to add, I took the tablets to the vet and they said they were fine, my normal vet is back tomorrow thank god !
- By SharonM Date 28.11.04 13:40 UTC
I think if your girl has a bad eclampsia, like mine did, no matter how much calcium you give, liquid, iv, or tablet form it just won't be enough and you will have to stop her feeding the pups!

Luckily my pups were 3 weeks old when it happened, but no matter how much calcium we were giving her, we couldn't keep up the feeding of her 7 pups and her 'stores of calcium' were drained completely.  She ended up fitting and unconscious, spent 3 days in the vets after lots of iv calcium.  It really was a horrible thing to have to watch my girl go through, my vet did say if we had continued letting her feed the pups, then she would have died.

She has since had another litter and although around 3 weeks her levels started dropping again, we made sure the pups were eating solids and drinking from a bowl around this time, so it took some of the pressure off.

Is your vet checking her levels?  We were going back twice a week...........but sometimes they can be fine one minute and rock bottom the next.

My vet recommended buying Boots own Calcium with Vit D tablets
- By Canjoline [gb] Date 28.11.04 14:12 UTC
Hi
4 years ago my bitch had 14 puppies 2 days after we were rushing her to the vets and she had to be put on IV calcium when we brought her home, if i remember correctly we couldn't let her pups feed from her for i think it was 48 hours (i could be wrong there but i know it was hectic trying to feed 14 puppies by hand.
Pauline
- By pjw [gb] Date 29.11.04 10:10 UTC
Hi Lydia

The overdosing mentioned is in growing puppies and youngsters.  With a lactating bitch, be guided by your vet, but liquid calcium is, I think, more easily absorbed, and I certainly give it from the start of labour until the pups are weaned.  The amount to give depends on the size of the bitch.

Could you perhaps look at the problem another way.  You say the bitch is fine in the morning?  Yet presumably she has had the puppies with her all night?  So, could it be something else that is making her pant?  For example, does the heating come on for your family and perhaps with the heating in her box she just gets too hot.  The whelping box may be too hot, and just her moving around etc in the morning may be enough to start her panting.  Do you or your family fuss her a little in the morning, so she gets a bit stressed?  If she has a calcium deficiency, then it doesn't come and go by the hour.

Just a few thoughts.  Good luck.
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