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Topic Dog Boards / Visitors Questions / pug crosses
- By Guest [gb] Date 21.11.04 14:16 UTC
can anyone tell me if a pug cros is more healthy option to buy than a pure pug? i think pure pugs are very pricey so i have been considering a pug cross and have found a kennels who specialise in them they have some really cute pups on their website, does anyone have a pug cross so that they could advise me about health and temperament etc?
- By MollMoo Date 21.11.04 14:24 UTC
Would not opt for a cross, they could also be ridden with health problems more so than their pedigree counterparts.  Only puppy farmers intrested in the money side of such a cross would do such a thing!

Personally i would start saving and visit as many reputable breeders as you can, would you not want or be intrested in an older dog? Or ex brood bitch?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 21.11.04 14:39 UTC
It depepnds a lot on the health and genetic status of the parents. If both parents have problems, the simple act of crossing them won't eradicate them!
- By archer [gb] Date 21.11.04 16:08 UTC
The problem is that no one breeding crosses is going to bother health testing. I would steer well clear of a kennels like this...they are just breeding to supply the market for rediculous 'designer' crosses which cost 'designer' prices.
A good  breeder will spend years researching their breed and will cut no corners whatever the cost to produce a good healthy puppy and will offer life long support and advice.Places like you are refering to are only after one thing...your money
Archer
- By gwen [gb] Date 21.11.04 17:18 UTC
IS this the "cutesy" web site which explains what an active little fellow their stud dog is, and how he lets himself into all the "lady dogs bedrooms" thus giving them a seemingly endless supply of small breeds X pugs?  Last time I looked they had Pug cross Cavaliers, Westies, and at least 3 other breeds!  Interestingly, all these were breeds with health issues of their own.Pugs are a fairly sturdy, healthy breed, wiht only 1 major health concern, HV.  Places like this are using easy whelping breeds to maximise on the pug popularity and price, without thought for the problems of the pups.  If you cant afford a pug why not pup along to a rescue and find a dog which appeals?  Buying one of these pug crosses is going to a) line the poickets of a puppy farm and b) you will still have no idea what your pup will turn out to look like, what size it will be, etc.
bye
Gwen
- By Anwen [gb] Date 21.11.04 19:13 UTC
Just  being nosy Gwen. What's HV?
- By gwen [gb] Date 21.11.04 22:16 UTC
HV =Hemivertibrae - closely related to the twist tail gene,   Currently under veterinary invesitgation, with the possibility of getting it onto the KC register for tests.  Problem is, Pugs are so very prone to adverse General Anaeasthic  reaction that a lot of people are only x-raying when under for another reason, and the current x-rays on file dont give a broad cross section, as the majority were only take as it was suspected the dogs suffered from HV, however, if and when the research is completed I think many more breeders will take advantage of x-rays.
bye
Gwen
- By Fillis Date 21.11.04 23:43 UTC
If the difference in price between a pedigree and an overpriced mongrel is too great, then you cannot afford the upkeep of either.
- By ozzie72 [au] Date 22.11.04 00:41 UTC
Think of all the money you'll be pouring into vet bills when your un-health tested dog falls ill :(
I would be too paranoid to buy from a "breeder" (i use that term loosely in this case) who doesnt health test their dogs,you have no idea what you're getting.A well respected breeder,with morals and standards who cares about their breed will not cross any old dogs together,it rings alarm bells to me,$$$$ are the only things that matter to these people!!
The dog may live a long and healthy life,or it may not.is the gamble worth it??? I would much rather save for a well bred dog than line the pockets of a puppy farmer,it will be well worth it in the end :)

How much are pugs sold for over there? Here in Aus the norm. is between $800-$1000.
The next dog i'm going to get will be a pug,they are beautiful dogs with excellent temprements AND they're NOT fussy eaters like my shih-tzu's,which is an added bonus :D But i know i will have to save long and hard if i want a well bred dog,which will make it even more worth it when the day arrives.
- By gwen [gb] Date 22.11.04 10:50 UTC
Hi Ozzie, over hear they are from about £750 to £1500 - quite a big variation in prices, and a few kennels are asking up to £2000.  Blacks are definetly at the upper end of the scale.    One of our puggy boys is out in Australia ( well, Tasmania, actually)  Wonderful breed, and certainly ot fussy feeders!
bye
Gwen
- By Anwen [gb] Date 22.11.04 10:58 UTC
Thanks Gwen
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