I have heard today from a good source that a Rottie that barks constantly all day(not the problem)
Is chained outside to a short chain, and the brats, sorry children(ranging from 9 down to 2ish) sit on its head hit it with sticks and thats just the bits that have been seen. It just lays there and takes it.  I know I sound harsh about the children but knowing who they are they are brats. Bad parenting. The poor kids even get full force hit round the head if they have done something wrong, so they dont know any different.( I have seen it!!!!)
I am reluctant to call the RSPCA as they wont do anything from experience. What would you do about it??
Bearing in mind it would have to be done without anyone knowing as the family have been known to be in jail for not nice things.
Lea.

OK the RSPCA may not take any action but then again they might, they never reveal who has tipped them off so what is there to loose by telling them?

at the end of the day the only ones who will/are able to take any action are the RSPCA.

i reported the fat lab by email!

Have they got back to you on that yet, Michelle?

theyve got all the details & said theyd look into it, havent seen anything or heard any gossip yet????so shouldnt think anything has happened yet. maybe they wont bother-probaley!

Hi I wouldnt hesitate give the rspca a call just for the sake of the poor dog.

No go. They wont take a second hand complaint. It has to be witnessed. So the poor dog is going to carry on being maltreated by those kids until the dog decideds enough is enough and then the poor dog will be put down.
Lea :(

I would suggest a strongly worded letter to the owners, (annonymous)!  Would then make sure everyone in the area knew about it and make dam sure it was stopped.  Make sure it is true first tho!

Not when the whold family live down the same street. :( Would end up with my house being torched :(

Could whoever sees this happening take a video? Or if it happens at a set time invite the RSPCA or dog warden to witness it with them.

She wont as she is scared of the family :(

From my experience the RSPCA dont care and are useless. They're ment to be a charity but only interested in making money.

It may also be worth getting some help for the kids as well ,if they are being treated badly too.

Lea, can't you emphasise to her the fact that the RSPCA WON'T reveal her name or even what sex she is.

I know that you said she is scared of the family but if their that sort of family then, in their eyes it could have been any number of people who reported them, couldn't it? From the sounds of them, they are troublemakers and they must have no end of enemies. But at least if it is reported then the dog stands a chance of getting some help. Its life could be in danger.

I had a visit from the RSPCA back in the summer, I posted on here about it, I had a dispute with some builders and they very wrongly reported 1 of my dogs (GSD) saying that she was dangerous looking!!!! All because she hated the intimidating b******s as much as I did, so she barked like crazy at them, going up the door and trying to demolish fences when they were teasing her, to get to them. The RSPCA were very understanding but under no circumstances would they even hint as to whom had put the complaint in, albeit I knew, as I live in the sticks, nobody, not even the postman comes out this far. Once I had got over the shame and anger of being visited by them I was pleased that they had followed up on it as it shows that they DO take complaints seriously.

Whereabouts in the country is the dog? Perhaps a rep from Rottweiler Welfare could go and have a look and talk to the owners.

Who says the complaint is second hand??  Didn't you see it? ;)

I was thinking along those lines digger ;)

In her first post Lea says she has heard it from a source not that she saw it herself I did think at the time that the RSPCA would probably need rather more direct information in order to take action.
Its a pity the source does not feel able to report it directly as I said the RSPCA do not reveal their sources.

Yes, I know what Lea said, but sometimes the truth can be stretched a little ;)

Hairypooch,

It's one thing the RSPCA not revealing who reported them but in this kind of situation the culprits will often 'blame' the person 'least able to defend themselves'. To report the dog as 'chained' up then the 'reporter' must be albe to see into the garden. If this girl is a single parent or has pets/children that can be harmed then I can understand her retsissance at reporting the cruelty.
I tend to just go in at night and take the animal that is being mistreated but my kids are used to me doing this kind of thing and I've been lucky not to get the blame as yet. I always call the RSPCA afterwards and get them to come and take the animal. I haven't done this for a couple of years but if I saw the need I still would.
One other thing. If the dog is in 'good nick' and the RSPCA don't actually see evidence of the cruelty they wouldn't take the dog away anyway or in fact do anything. They would just inform the owners of the 'allegation'.

D4wn,

Presumably, from Lea's post, somebody has seen the dog chained up and the cruelty that is occuring, otherwise there wouldn't be a complaint.

I too can understand this girls resistance at reporting this but if it bothers her that much (and it obviously does, otherwise she wouldn't be telling other people) then she has some sort of responsibility to help, or hopefully, other people will have seen it and reported it by now.

I can totally appreciate why you have felt the need to remove animals in the past but surely you have been told that this is tantamount to theft, regardless of the rights or wrongs of the animals situation. Obviously the RSPCA will not remove an animal if it appears to be physically healthy, I don't necessarily agree with this but unfortunately they do not seem to be sympathetic to an animals emotional/mental health.

Hairypooch,

I'm aware of what my actons, in the past have been 'tantamount to'. I'd do it all over again in the same situations. One dog had a rib poking through the skin it was found that it had been in this condition for months.
Have you ever thought that if the 'owners' of the animals I stole/rescued, whatever you want to call it, were to try and have me prosecuted my defence would be the state of the animal in question.
The RSPCA managed to prosecute at least one of the 'owners' and they were not allowed to own animals for 5 years and got a hefty fine. Not enough for the cruelty they inflicted.
As to the fact that this girl would have seen the dog chained does this not also re-iterate the chances of these people 'blaming' her whether the RSPCA revealed their sources or not.
There is a new law, if not already in force, coming into force soon whereby the RSPCA are/ will be able to remove an animal before injury/cruelty occurrs if there is enough evidence of probability.

Lea,

Is there an update as to what has happened to this dog, if anything?

D4wn,

I obviously didn't understand the situation surrounding your "rescue" of this particular dog. I am sorry, you didn't explain this on your previous post :) I can see now why you did it. I understandably didn't think about the owners defence, not being in possession of all the facts.

I am afraid that I do not think that people being banned from owning animals and getting a fine is suitable punishment and totally agree with you that it is not enough for inflicting torture and pain upon any living thing. Afterall, people can move to a new area and start all over again. The RSPCA do not have the resources to track them, the only way they will know, is if the said people come to their attention again.

How would these people know that it was only "her" that saw the dog. Do you think that she was the only person to see it? Or do they, as I do, live in the middle of  nowhere so they could be 100% guaranteed it was her??? I doubt it very much.

Yes, the law has been changed, but I doubt it will make much difference. You do not seem to have much belief in the RSPCA, so what makes you think that they will remove an animal before injury/cruelty occurs? And in cases like this, clearly there is not enough evidence, or the dog would not still be (we belive at the moment) suffering.

There is nothing more I can do :( unless I find out more information.
I know the women wont go to RSPCA. And where they live you cant just walk down there. They live in a line of terraces thats does have public access but I havnt been down there for 4 years since I lived there, so if I went down there and then they got a visit from the RSPCA they would know who it was.
I will keep my ears open and see if I can find anything out.
And yes, as someone has said, the kids could do with help as well, but they go to school all the time, are outright bullies, but fed. Just neglected of love and hit round the head when naughty.(I would have a headache by the force) So even if I did report them, nothing would be done :(
Lea.

Under these circumstances Lea, I can see why you cannot do anything :(

I pity the kids and the dog Why is the world so unfair? There are people out there who would give anything to have a happy loving homelife with kids and dogs but for a variety of reasons cannot have them. They have so much love to give. It's the injustice of it all that upsets me.

If this new act of Parliament goes through, will there still be the same dilemma? ie, hitting kids under any circumstances is illegal and carries a 5 yr prison sentence, but from what you say Lea, it won't bother them as they have done time already!!

Thanks Hairypooch.
Does make me mad I cant do anything.
But if I get proof, which I will still listen and look out for, I will do something straight away.
Lea (who feels helpless)

You might feel helpless Lea, but at LEAST you care, which is more than that moronic family does  ;) I have learnt, through experience that you cannot feel guilty and take on the worlds problems :) Albeit you want to. You just do the best you can, which is what you are doing :)

Blimey, I even feel guilty for my dogs bad dreams!

Have you thought about contacting social services? I dont really know if there's much they'd be able to do but worth a try, and at least you'd feel as if you were doing something? You can do it anonymously too.

New here by the way :)

Viv

UPDATE
Well, looks as if the Rottie has gone :D
But looks as if it has been replaced with a white German Shepherd that stands there barking!!!!!!!
So looks as if she got fed up with the Rottie and replaced it like she has done 2 previous dogs :(
Some people :( :( :(
Lea :)