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Topic Dog Boards / General / Scotland ? pet passport lots of ?'s
- By porkie [gb] Date 01.11.04 08:47 UTC
Does anyone know if I need to get a pet passport to take Spice to Scotland for christmas?
Also what happens at the airport,do you just turn up at check-in as normal with your pet or do special arrangements take place?
Will they provide a carrier or should we take a 'cage' for her?
It's a long drive and we thought the 1hr plane journey would be best for her?(Heathrow to Aberdeen.)
I wouldn't dream of kennelling her over christmas,but if it's going to be difficult to fly,then we will either travel up sharing the driving or stay at home.She does love the car and we could stop off lots of times on route.
It is our first opportunity to visit my sisters,who have moved to the North East Scottish coastline and it would be wonderful to see everyone again.
thanks,
Jacqueline :)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 01.11.04 09:59 UTC
You don't need a passport for England to Scotland - they're both in the UK! Last time I flew within the UK no carriers would take animals on internal flights at all - however that was a long time ago and things may have changed.
- By tohme Date 01.11.04 10:02 UTC
I hope you have got your holiday visa and jabs sorted out and your local phrase book.  Also be careful about the local fauna, there are sprays that are available in case of haggis infestation etc etc.  :D :D :D
- By porkie [gb] Date 01.11.04 10:43 UTC
Thanks guys,I thought as Mum and Dad needed their passports to exit England into Scotland then maybe Spice would too :D :D :D
guess it's all down to a phone call now to see if the airlines will take doggie passengers :D
I believe my sisters now have a local dialect,so maybe the phrase book would come in handy ;) and we won't be going near any haggis :eek:
Jacqueline :)
- By Blue Date 01.11.04 11:06 UTC
Porkie your parents would not have needed their passport to fly from England to Scotland just photographic ID which can generally be a driving licence or your passport.

Only a few airlines will take pets.  Most  do have the temperature controlled holds.

EUJET lets you carry a puppy in a small carrier but only fly from Kent to Edinburgh I believe.

I have tried a couple of airlines especially when studs are 500 miles away but had no success.

Pam
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 01.11.04 11:16 UTC
Porkie, your parents don't need their passports either! No ID at all is needed. I have relations who cross the border every week.
- By Moonmaiden Date 01.11.04 11:48 UTC
After 9/11 I think you might have to prove ID for internal flights, you do in the states
- By kerrieddbx [gb] Date 01.11.04 10:39 UTC
Im pretty sure British Airways carry pets, its the budget airlines that dont carry at all. Ive just flown a dog with them to Europe, and they were very good (but make sure they quote you the full costs-they didnt tell me about £100 handling charge) :rolleyes:
- By Blue Date 01.11.04 11:09 UTC
I had the opposite trouble with BA ( although I do like them) I actually booked a dog on a flight , paid it etc and when I turned up at the airport they couldn't take the dog on. They said it was a mistake ( 3 different peoples mistake) , They refunded my ticket and I had to go home and jump in the car.

EUJET was or is a budget airline using older BA planes.   I got a return flight for £40 recently

Pam
- By LindyLou [gb] Date 01.11.04 14:50 UTC
You may not need a passport to DRIVE to Scotland, or go by bus or train, but you will need some sort of official photographic ID (eg passport, driving licence..) if you want to fly. My daughter looked into flying recently and as she doesn't have either she had to go by train. :confused: This is all because of September 11th. New rules and regs I'm afraid :(
- By LindyLou [gb] Date 01.11.04 14:51 UTC
You may not need a passport to DRIVE to Scotland, or go by bus or train, but you will need some sort of official photographic ID (eg passport, driving licence..) if you want to fly. My daughter looked into flying recently and as she doesn't have either she had to go by train. :confused: This is all because of September 11th. New rules and regs I'm afraid :( Don't know about the dog though. Best to phone up and ask.
- By ClaireyS Date 01.11.04 15:09 UTC
People do because of 9/11 but dogs only really need a passport to show they are vaccinated etc so I would imagine that would be ok :)
- By spaniel-lover [gb] Date 01.11.04 15:12 UTC
:D :D  How amusing!!  Why would you think you would need a pet passport for coming to Scotland??  We're only up the road, there's no border control! :D  In addition BA do take pets and you do not require photographic ID for flying internally with them.  This is only required on some of the budget airlines who do not accept animals for cargo in any case.  For your information, details on BA pet travel can be found here.

HTH :)
- By Blue Date 01.11.04 18:06 UTC
You do not honestly need a passport just the photographic ID.. A passport is one form which can be used for verification of who you are but it is not needed to get you in or out of the country. :-))) we are not that bad up here ;-) honestly. This is not new rules either you have always needed a form of identification.

If you have a driving licence with your photo on it that is all you need.    :-)

Biggest trouble is not the identification but finding an airline that takes the pets now..
- By ChristineW Date 01.11.04 18:13 UTC
Passport????   OOoooo ' eck...I've been living here 17 years as an illegal immigrant.  ;)
- By LF [gb] Date 02.11.04 07:22 UTC
Hmmmmmm, an illegal immigrant are you :eek:  Behave yourself then, or we'll tell the Passport Police where to find you ;)  :D :D :D 

Lesley
- By Blue Date 02.11.04 09:47 UTC
ROFLOL Christine..:-)
- By hairypooch Date 04.11.04 12:57 UTC
We have recently taken our dogs to Scotland, our older GSD only did it once as the journey was not fair on her because of health probs (did it several times in the summer) and found that the cost of flying plus the 3 of us was too prohibitive. So we took went by car, the journey is about 8/9 hrs to where we went and we shared the driving, plus stopped several times to let the dog/s have a drink and stretch the legs, in fact they didn't want to get out of the car on occasions.

We said that if we did it again we would drive half way and then stop over night at the Travel Lodge as some of them accept dogs and then continue our journey the next day. This might be worth considering for you.
- By Blue Date 04.11.04 13:16 UTC
I keep laughing ( in a nice way) at the posts about travelling to Scotland like it was the other end of the world :-))

Think of the Scottish exhibtors who have to travel down south to most of the shows.

The travel lodges are very good though. We tend to drive down early evening and stay over the night before any show and then straight up the road after the show.

Pam
- By Blue Date 04.11.04 13:17 UTC
Gosh I take it you are pretty far down south for a 8/9 hour journey. :-)
- By JoFlatcoat (Moderator) [gb] Date 04.11.04 13:21 UTC
Think I rather like Porkie - is your surname Pye?  :-) :-) :-)

Jo and the Casblaidd Flatcoats
- By porkie [gb] Date 04.11.04 18:58 UTC
No JoFlatcoat :D it's not Pye :D The name originated from my absolute love of pigs! if I had the room I would have pet pigs as well as more dogs :D
- By hairypooch Date 04.11.04 14:16 UTC
Yep blue, we live on the South coast of Kent and travel to Perth, the journey door to door is 560 miles :eek:

But this does include breaks for human and canine :D We normally leave about 2.00am and arrive, very bad tempered at about 11.00am, although our last journey back took us a whooping 12 hours, non stop because of dam road works, grrrrrr.

We used to travel to the south of France, ferry, not far as we're next door to Dover and then the long trek down by road using toll roads and it was quite a bit quicker and certainly more comfortable because of the smooth french roads. :)
- By porkie [gb] Date 04.11.04 18:54 UTC
Thanks for all the feedback,we have reviewed the trip and have decided we shall be driving up,sharing the journey and probably stopping off 1/2 way in a b&b or travelodge :) this way we can stay as long as we like and travel about more,exploring the area!

Just for info.BLUE the journey to sister 1 is 584.7 miles and to sister 2 it's 597.5 :eek: ,door to door, assuming we don't get lost :D so it would be a drive of approx. 81/2 to 10hrs plus stops! Considering we flew to Florida for the same time and can fly to Greece for much less,I do kinda think of Scotland as a faraway distant land :D :D but I have lots of Scottish friends and now with family up in the North we will be visiting a lot more of the area :D so look out for a bewildered looking couple studying those maps with a black and white collie,in a peugeot sw estate! :D
- By Blue Date 05.11.04 00:34 UTC
Porkie,

You know what we laugh at that so much. My freind is in Newcastle and it takes me 2 1/2 hours to go to her house which I do regularly and I was just at majorca 2 weeks ago and it was 2 1/2 hour flight.. :-) know which I would rather do

Pam
- By luvly [gb] Date 05.11.04 11:10 UTC
You >do<  need Id with a photo in to fly anywhere in the uk  .because they need to know who exactly is getting on the plane . this came in just before sept 11th . any terrorist could get on board couldent they

My sister used to manage check in  and shes cabin crew now , Make sure those of you who fly to remind them to let the pilot know about the dog
the ( hold) the place where they put them and suitcases  can go below freezing they will have to make sure its the right temp for doggy which im sure they will :)
- By Blue Date 05.11.04 12:36 UTC
Lovelylady :-)) I think everyone agreed you needed Photo ID, just that it didn't neccesary need to be a passport.   :-)

The problem isnt that the hold needs set at a certain temp some planes do not have the facility to control the temp in the holds. It is  the actual types of planes and flights.  A lot of airlines wont take pets regardless even if they can control the temperature.  You have to actually call the airline in advance of making any booking to see if they can facilitate an animal. A lot don't want to bother now sadly.

BFN Pam :-)
- By spaniel-lover [gb] Date 05.11.04 13:24 UTC
:) I fly almost weekly with BA internally and you do not require photographic ID for internal flights.  However, if you have booked an e-ticket and are not the person who paid for the flight, then they will require some form of photo identification. :)
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