I am looking for a labradoo puppy i would like to get one for less than £500 if possible and id like a golden coloured bitch.
if anyone can put me in touch with a breeder i would be most gratefull.
sue bishop sbish199@ntlworld.com

what's a labradoo? Is it the opposite of a labradont? :D

I guess you mean labrador, because there is no such breed as a labradoo. Labradors come in three colours, black, yellow and chocolate (originally called liver), but if you contact one of these breeders you may have some luck.
:)

you wont get much help on here!!!! :(
but i love them :) so here is a really good website where breeders health test their parents & puppies

  www.uk-labradoodles.co.uk/

good luck! there are people who are breeding these just to make money,but there are some brill breeders on the site!

I think they meant labradoodle?
must be at that price surely?
I see ads all the time for labs and they are usually only £200-300 unless they are chocolate and then theyre a bit more expensive.
If you want a labradoodle guest, you will have to be prepared to wait for a puppy, as they are a rare breed and you may expect to pay around £500 for one

<<<<<<<<<<<If you want a labradoodle guest, you will have to be prepared to wait for a puppy, as they are a rare breed and you may expect to pay around £500 for one >>>>>>>>>>
But they are NOT a breed. Yes people like to premote them as so, but they are not.
They are a first generation cross and you cannot guaruntee what you are getting.
If you mean Labrador guest then there are alot of good breeders around.
If you mean Labradoodle, Save yourself £400 and go to the local rescue centre and find a lovely dog there :D
HTH (as not meant in a nasty way as I know alot of 'breeders' are premoting labradoodles as a breed in their own right, which they are not, but the unsuspecting public donnot realise this  :( )
And if neither of them are what you are meaning have a look at http://www.champdogs.co.uk/ and go to guided search and yo will see all breeds.
Lea:)

Tobermory why do you think "it must be a labradoodle"  <<<"must be at that price surely?">>> Whatever makes a cross more desireable than a pure bred pedigree??

and where do you live that you <<"see ads for Labradors at £200- £300".>>??

I think the main reason labradoodles are dearer is because they have hybrid vigor and are healthier.
but they are now being bred as a proper breed and have gone way past the first generation :-)
I quite like them actually. maybe one day they will become a KC breed? you never know?
I live in the highlands, and I was talking about the adtrader and also scotads, there are always lots of ads for labs every week for £200 (with KC papers) but as I said the choc ones sell for higher price

>they have hybrid vigor and are healthier.

They're not hybrids! A hybrid is a cross between two closely related species, such as dog and wolf, lion and tiger, or horse and donkey. These are simply crossbreeds, which can (and do) suffer from as many health problems as purebreds. There are certainly plenty of crossbreeds on our vet's client list!

are you sure? I thought a hybrid and a crossbreed are one and the same thing?

According to the OED: Hybrid: The offspring of two animals or plants of different species.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<but they are now being bred as a proper breed and have gone way past the first generation >>>>>>>>>>>>
From what I have heard on here the Guide Dogs For the Blind didnt carry on cross breeding as more than first generation down the line threw back to many bad ones(for want of better words) So most labardor x poodles were from first generation not second. Second generation you were less likely to have trhe type of dog the labradoodle is supposed to be. Put that 3rd 4th 5th generation and all you have is a complete cross bred that could possibly not resemble anything like a labrador and poodle, in temprement.
Lea (who might be wrong but that has been the understanding I have picked up)

I don't agree with "hybrid vigour" if the Labrador or the Poodle have HD or PRA in their genetic make up, then of course crossing the two breeds the progeny will inherit the genetic make up of both breeds and as good breeders know, we can all hip score and eye test but you can still produce a pup with HD.
I quite like them too and I have a friend who breeds them but I still tell her she is 'wasting' a good Labrador :)
The link that Michelle has given just goes to show the diversity of 'coat types'  I saw one that was a fourth generation but was but ugly and still moulted    yet a first generation (F1) can be beautiful and curly. It will be many many generations before a type can be moulded to call them a 'breed'
Incidentally the best Doodles that I have seen have come from a Lab x Collie, IMO because the long coat gene was in the dogs genetics.

Hi,

Have to agree mongrels can also develop HD just as much as a pedigree breed.However most people do not have their pet dogs/mongrels  hipscored under the BVA SCHEME so we will never know how common HD in these dogs.
At because alot of published hipscore results from a wide range of breeds people naturally assume and so do some vets that HD only really affects pedigrees.I know of 2 heinz 57's that are pets that have virtually no hipsockets on xray ,one of thsese has both hips done bia triple pelvic osteotomy and the other waiting surgery.

Briony

Are you sure the Guest means Labradoodle?  Much easier to type Labrador incorrectly than Labradoodle.  Anyway, if you are looking for a Labrador type Yellow Labrador puppy in the search feature rather than golden, and you'll get some information.

Out of interest, if someone did mix a yellow lab with a poodle would it be referred to as yellow Labradoodle?  or is the yellow title for pedigrees only.  Just curious and NOT promoting it.

Do you think it might be a "yodel" :D :D :D

no labradoodles do not come in yellow!

So even if you crossed a yellow labrador with an apricot/white poodle would you still get a black dog then?

all the yellowy colours they come in arent called yellow! cream/gold/apricot/chalk yes,but no yellows as in labradors are yellow

having just wrote yellow alot,it is a really funny looking word!!!!

They are actually nice looking dogs...

The sentance that worries me is the one where they say that whilst labradors suffer from hip problems labradoodles don't seem to suffer from them genetically... what does that mean and how can it be so? If half the dog is a lab and the sire/dam has an undiagnosed hip problem then surely it can/will come out on the pups whether they are crossed with something else or not?!

Also - if they offer a Labradoodle as a stud to a Labradoodle bitch... what does that give you? Is it a mroe diluted version of a Labradoodle? I can't get my head round it!

The other thing I don't like is the commercialism of this cross - it really is a license to print money :(

A friend of a friend has bred these dogs. I thought that she was doing it to create a 'new breed' - but now I have found that she is only doing first crosses :( She bought in a couple of retrievers specially for the purpose :( I can't understand this, as there is no guarantee what each pup will look like - so how does the buyer know what they are going to get - it is a bit of a lottery, as with any crossbreed :( :(

Daisy

look at the leonberger,look at the doberman,look at the aussie ,look at the cesky, dont they all breed to type?
if you walk down the street here there are ESS that look like CKCS & others that look like field spaniels so there is great diversty even in the established breeds

But one of the problems with the labradoodle (first-crosses) is that people buy them thinking that they don't shed or that their coat will be curly, or that they will be the size of the mother etc etc. The breeders are sometimes mis-representing what the adult dog will be :(

Daisy

A quote from that site (my bold): Bertie was born in Feb 2002 by a breeder called Alan. He is a first generation labradoodle But what he lacks in cuteness he makes up for with his amazing character. He is very large and boundy and loves to play. His hair does shed alot but he dosnt require too much grooming as its already fairly short and wiry

I thought the whole point was that they didn't shed? And it's a shame they don't acknowledge on that site that poodles can have hip and eye problems too. :( I suppose they're quite cute, but being a fan of smooth-coated breeds, they're not for me!
:)

That's what I find so ridiculous about this woman breeding first-crosses only - she will never know with any of her pups what they will turn out like. She is supposedly breeding them for agility and as assistance dogs :( I know that no breeder (of registered breeds) can 100% tell what type of adult their pups will be, but at least they will have a pretty good idea :)

Daisy

some breeders are hip scoring & eyetesting now, :)

As the average labrador hipscore is 16, and the average standard poodle (I'm assuming they're using standards with a dog the size of a lab, and not a mini or toy) hipscore is 15, there isn't a lot of difference! And yes, first crosses can have HD - I knew a labrador/GSD cross whose hips were appalling - so if the breeders are saying that's not so they are lying.

they arent saying that though?

Saying that they don't seem to suffer from them genetically implies that this particular cross defies the rules of heredity ...

well as they are hip scoring now i guess they will soon know!!

To be accurate, it is only the registered pedigree parents they are scoring. The crosses may well be hip x-rayed, and the plates vet-checked, but they cannot have the same type of technical score as provided by the KC. But it's certainly better than nothing, so that's a plus.

im 100% sure that XB can be hip scored under the BVA scheme if they are on the activitys register

Your right Michelle :-) Results are listed in Breed Records Supplements
                                                                Anne

& they both have eye problems & poodles have SA as do Goldens.

They were a cross first done by the Guide Dogs for  the blind, but I think they dropped it because it didn't work out

they say they are not KNOWN to suffer from it, NOT that they do not or can not

And they are not KNOWN to suffer from it because - as a cross breed - the hips cannot (and are not) scored! 

How many owners of labradoodle puppies (or any other cross-bred puppies) are going to go back to the breeders and say "my dog/puppy is suffering from hip displaysia???

JMO

Margot

all breeds & xbreeds can be if they are on the activites register

and why wouldnt they go back to the breeder & tell them? or come on here & say my labradoodle has HD?

some are now been hip scored!

And are all of these on the Register? (Only asking because I don't know, I'm not being argumentative!)
:)

well i guess they MUST be if they are being scored!!!!!!

god knows why im getting worked up! i dont even have one or want one, BUT theres a lady near me who is 100% geniune,not in it for the money making & is in all respec ts a exellent breeder! & im standing up for her cos she deserves to be stood up for!

its strange cos in obedience theres collie-doodles, & everybody loves them

Sorry if I am guilty of mis-information - I had not realised that cross-breeds could be hip scored and their scores registered,  if they were on the Agility Register - apologies all round!

Margot

all non ped breeds ,XBREED or anything witrh no history can be as long as its on the activites register & eye tested & all the usual tests! although they will only be recored as XBs not as labradoodles

i think they are nice, and like any crossbreed, or hybrid or whatever you want to call them, there will always be those who are open minded who will give them a chance, and those who are not, who wont.
so dont get "worked up" michelled, its not worth it :-)

thank you! its true!
thanks anyway tobermory!

i was just thinking,what if that guest comes on to see these replies & says "blimey i only wanted a labrador!" <vbg> ;)

I'm not against them - I am against the implication and clains they are perfect dogs though!

everybody has a perfect dog for them though right?
mine are collies? what if these are PERFECT for somepeople? everybody that i know that has them is ever so slightly smitten!
on the web site they say they are big & boisterous,to be honest i guess the breeders & owners are likely to be better judges of wether the are the perfect dog than you or me? perfect for them? well yes why not? just as     mine are perfect for me!    

n

Well, not really.... when I say perfect I mean considered perfect as a breed - not an individual - no shedding, no hip/eye problems etc... and they are simply NOT that - and if they were marketed as a normal dog without such claims being made I might find the whole thing more reasonable. But at the moment its as if they are some super breed!

They certainly have a super price :(

Daisy

I agree the price is a bit high but surely that is a good thing to deter people from buying them unless they are 110% genuine?
if someone is prepared to pay a lot of money theres a good chance they will value the dog more than if they get it free or cheap?