Can somebody give me any advice. I received this e-mail in response to an initial request.  (please admin not advertising my pups) I really need advice here. It seems very strange that she can e-mail me yet has no telephone line, she says she is in the UK and has a very British name. Do I find out more or shall I tell her all pups now have homes. If the person who e-mailed me is reading this and is genuine please do not be offended. I have 2 e-mail addresses and the e-mail came to the one I use on Champdogs.  This is the reason I am posting this and has anyone got any advice for me.
Thanks    Kay

Thanks for the mail,
    Em! i am very happy to here from you that the pups are still for sale  , and i would have love to call you the first place but  i am having some slite problem with my line and it will be restore back soon so kindly bear this with me,but i promise to call you on or before the tranbsaction comes to an end!!!
    Now i want to know if the 2 puppies left are   full registered or not and as well if all the short up to date? also kindly comfierm it to me if you based in uk or not course i am afraid to deal with who's is out of uk for security reasons ok?
   I will be very happy to here from you asap so that we can proceed from here??
Thanks. 

It sounds very dodgy to me, I'm afraid. Personally I would simply delete it.

Hi JG, yes I know I should, I replied to the 1st e-mail, it was quite normal, and although I thought the writer may have been dyslexic, there was nothing to alarm me, this was the reply I received.

Hi Kay

I would just be polite but say all are spoken for. The email response is quite weird to say the least.

Hi I advertised a car for sale and got a similar request only difference was they told me that someone owed them a large amount of money and was paying them by way of a bankers draft, i was told to take what i wanted for the car and then forward the reaining amount to them via western union,The chap told me he lived in London and was working in Germany when in fact his IP addy was from Nigeria, Some scam i was lucky to have the knowledge through my job that these scams are happening daily and people are loosing lots of their hard earned money only thing is nothing we can do as they are operating out of the UK so our law doesnt govern them, all i would say is be very careful

it does sound a quite not right and i think if you are a breeder you have to go with your instincs if you do not feel happy .
i must say i often email yorkie breeder first if possible if i am looking to get another yorkie at the same time hoping can get info and photos of the parents before making a long journey .
what breed are your puppys

The way it is written looks like english is not this persons first language so it could have come from abroad ? :)

It doesn't sound English to me.  It is written very much like a Nigerian scam that used to do the rounds at work.  Is the e.mail address co.uk, I know if it isn't it doesn't mean they are abroad, but I don't think you can get a uk one abroad.

I would go with gut feeling on this one and say they are all spoken for.

Sandra

I can use my yahoo account abroad which is co.uk so I assume you can set one up abroad.

Kayc  if you are putting a post on here you obviously don't 'feel right'. e-mail may well be the first point of contact for many people but I would always want a phone call from a land line.

id just delete it,sounds dodgey!

Kayc,
If you're not totally happy with what you have seen so far, then don't sell them a pup, it will be too late afterwards to do anything about it.  I have had similar dealings (reads like the same person, probs with phone line, bad communication and spelling etc.) they also 'couldn't' come to see the pups before picking them up :rolleyes: Tried to find out more and have a proper chat with them on the phone but they didn't want that.  Needless to say they didn't have one of mine, and I haven't regretted it for one minute.

Good luck with finding the best owners ever for each of your babies :D
Dill

Thanks all, I did get another e-mail this morning and have told her all pups are now sold, It is quite strange as my puppies didnt go on to chapdogs until yesterday, as all were booked before they were born, and the home this little pup was going to had been on my waiting list since way back in Feb. Unforseen personal circumstances changed that. He stays with me until just the right home comes for him and I can keep track of his progress.
The other thing that bothers me now, is that my home address in CD, any thoughts on this. It is quite worrying
Kay

p.s it is a yahoo account so could be set up anywhere.

I've just had a similar email from someone I've never heard of before - and I don't have any puppies!!

Think it might just be one of the spam type emails that goes the rounds from time to time - and its just a coincidence that you've received it at a time when you do have puppies.

Margot

Please do not respond to this message.  Very similar ones are going around and has already been suspected they are related to a Nigerian Fraud.  The process involves sending you a Bankers Draft in excess of the amount you are asking for.  They claim someone in the UK owes them money and you are to deduct the sale price and send them the rest.  Invariably this is to a Nigerian Person with a Nigerian address.
Usually your Bank cashes this draft and it can take an unbelievable 3 weks to find out that the cheque is fraudulent.  Then of course you are down by the money you sent to the person mentioned, never mind being suspected of money laundering by the Police.
Dog breeders and rescues have been targeted for the last 12 months at least and a lot have fallen for it.  The scamsters have been becoming more personal in their approach rather then the "dead person has left millions in account and you can help me get it for a percentage" common ones.
My own rescue was targetted recently and we would have been out to the tune of £2,200 if we didn't already know this was a problem.  Others haven't been so lucky.  They have even recently targetted people rehoming dogs on my rescue site message board
If anyone wants more information, or advice, please mail me
Debbie

Thanks L3. I got another 3 e-mails from her this morning, deleted and not replied.

My friend is selling some dog items and had the same emails, thankyou for putting this up so i could tell her.

When I had my last litter listed i got an email from someone who said they were in Amsterdam and wanted a pet for his daughter, I was a little surprised as all the mails from him came through in the middle of the night.  Whilst they asked and answered all the right questions I was uncomfortable about the mails, he was jsut too effusive, kept going on about how happy to be getting one of our wonderful pups, what an great home he woudl give it - just did not feel right.  At this point i had not said they could have one!  HE just assumed it,  then I got a mail saying that to make the money side of things easier, he had a customer in the UK who owed him money, he would get him to send me a bankers draft, I was to deduct the puppy price plus and extra £200, and send the rest Western Union to his agent, who was to pay for a new Mercedes for him!

I mailed back saying no thanks, it sounded like a money laundering scam to me, and never heard back!
bye
Gwen

I got this one a few months ago(not dogs but on the same lines) :-
Hello,

Help me,please!!
I work as the manager for the Russian international marriage agency.
We have several clients from UK. They want to invite girls for marriage.
But they have told that will pay our services only to our partner in UK.
We have no partner in UK and we offer you cooperation.
You should have the account in Lloyds TSB Bank or Barclays Bank or HSBC or CitiBank.
Our clients will send internal bank transfer to your account.
Such transfers will arrive to your account within 5-10 minutes.
After you will receive money that you should send them by Western Union to
our office to Russia.
You should take for yourself of 5-10% from each transfer which will arrive
to your account.
The sums will be from 1000 up to 6000 pounds.
If you agree to work with us that we should know your personal e-mail and
details about your account.

You help me?
Best regards!!!

Needless to say, I didnot even reply!!!!!!!!!
Lea :)

I've been told to never, ever, ever belive anything that mentions 'Western Union'. That is enough to virtually guarantee it's a scam.

isent there anyone monitoring these people ? somewhere you can report these kinds of emails ?

The police now have a specific department dealing with internet fraud, lovelylady, you report it to them.

This is the address I send all my suspected internet scam e mails to

pravina.makwana@thamesvalley.pnn.police.uk

fraud.alert@met.police.uk
is the email address of the force coordinating against these scammers - I was had over selling a pony through the internet.

So would it be worth reporting the one I got to them?
Lea :)

Another angle on this is that they harras you to send the money throuh Western Union asap the bank with put the money at your disposal after 3 days, they want you to take the money from your account straight after this time and sent it to a western union address, after 10 days you get a letter from your bank to say that the draft has not actually cleared and you are responsable for paying the bank back the money for the draft that had been canecelled on the 4 th day.

When my daughter (who was caught be this when selling a car) complained to the bank they said that it was just a curtesey that allowed you to draw on the draft before it was cleared. They know that the banks will allow withdrawl before this actual clearance, and wait intill after that date to cancell the draft.

She was £2,000 out 5 days before Christmas, the bank took all her wages when they went into the bank as they said it was her debt as she had withdrawn the money.

I have a large file on many scams like this, but the police were not interested when we forwarded them, as they have not cash to chase these people all over the world, the police told me just to block the emails

my experience involved a cheque that I paid in my bank for a pony, the next thing I knew the bank had frozen my account and the fraud squad were knocking on my door - it took me ages to persuade them that I was the victim and several weeks before my bank account was unfrozen. It turned out the cheque was forged, and yes they wanted me to send the balance by Western Union - luckily I had enough sense to refuse until the cheque had cleared.
I would report it - the authorities need to realise how big this problem is -it's organised crime and they need to find a way to stop it. Too many people are being caught out. :(

Yes you can report it, but like i said in a earlier post not alot the police in the UK can do unless these people who are doing this scam actually do come into the country which they never do, all you can do is report and forward any e-mails that you have so the police can track the emailers IP address.The e-mail I recieved from the chap who wanted to purchase my car was from Nigeria but my son tracked his ip addy before i reported to my local police. not heard anything since i just hope the International police federation catch up with these people and stop vulnerable people loosing out on a lot of their money,
regards polly_45