I have a 4 year old Rottie Bitch who is desperate for a bit of romance.  She has already had one litter and was a fantastic mother and she has a wonderful temperament.  I have also kept in contact with some of the pups owners which has been interesting to see then develop.  She is due into season end of Oct/Nov but I am struggling to find her a new handsome man.  Does anyone know of any fully papered Rottie Stud dogs in the Buckinghamshire area or anywhere in the surrounding areas.  Look forward to hearing from anyone.

what breeding is she ?????   what was her hip score, ????? what are her shortcomings, then you can think about which lines may improve them,

Dizzy
Thank you for your response unfortunately I have forgotten to bring her paperwork with me to work.  My bitch isnt hip scored and she hasnt any shortcomings.  I spoke to a lovely lady last night who does have a stud dog available so I plan to view him in the next couple of weeks.  I do know there are 3 cruft winners in the blood lines and am in contact with the mother of my bitch who is as beautiful as she is.

Lucy

Well your  bitch is a first!! I'm sure if you spoke to ALL the top breeders and owners they would all admit they have never owned or bred a perfect dog with no shortcomings!
How do you know she is perfect?I assume she must be a top winning show dog or you must be a breed expert...but then I would expect you to have done the necessary breed health tests and to have done your research and know where to find the perfect dog to compliment your bitch.
If your bitch is not hip scored no reputable stud owner will let you use their dog.
Archer

Archer
I find your message rather offensive and would appreciate it if you kept you opinions to yourself

Lucy

I'm afraid I agree with Archer. Breeding from an unscored dog to a stud dog who's owner doesn't care whether the bitch is scored is a recipie for disaster. In todays "blame society" you must be very careful that a pup who develops HD doesn't have an owner with a sharp lawyer and lots of money.

Sorry Lucy, I can't see anything in Archer's reply to you that should cause offence.  The Rottweiler breed clubs advocate that and bitches that are to be considered for breeding should be x-rayed and hip scored.  I also agree with Chloe that breeding from an unscored bitch to a dog who's owner isn't interested in approved bitches could amount to digging yourself into a very large hole for the future.  In addition to which, you should only really be breeding your bitch so that you can either improve her shortcomings, or to maintain a standard-a sucessful breeding should be to the benefit of the breed as a whole.

I really hope you reconsider breeding your bitch until you have had all the proper checks done and can find a stud dog that will help produce quality pups.

I must agree too, a very well known GSD breeder who does not hip score his dogs was the s ubject of a court case when he sold  dog to a working trials handler , the dog when scored had severe HD & had a score of 52:52=104 ! It cost him a lot of money(thousands not hundreds) & if you breed from dogs that are not scored then you run the risk of being found guilty of negligence. Even if you score your dogs & produce pups with high scores you can still be sued if you do know advise the buyers that low scoring parents do not guararrtee low scoring off spring, but you have done the best you can by only breeding from under mean scoring parents

It is also covered by trading standards sale of goods act as puppies with HD cas classed as goods not suited for the purpose they were bought for.

Archer was not being rude just bluntly telling you the facts about breeding from unhealth screened dogs

Im sorry Lucy C but I cannot see anything offensive in Archers post...She was only windering how you got a dog with no shortcomings has you said you bitch had none? and how do you know she is healthy if she has not had her hips scored...we thought one of your bitches had good hips, we got a stud dog for her, and the hipscore came back too high to breed from!!!  So no puppies...

Its a matter of health and safty for the dogs sake!

It's nothing personal, Lucy, but all dogs have shortcomings - even the Crufts Best in Show! The skill lies in being knowledgeable enough to recognise your animal's faults (and no dog is perfect) and find a mate who is strong in those points. Hereditary problems exist in all breeds (and crossbreeds and mongrels) so it is vital, if you don't want to run the risk of costly court cases, that you can show that your bitch (and the dog you use) is at low risk of passing on a problem. That means a lower-than-breed-average hipscore is very important.

The only animals who do not have shortcomings in either construction, type or temperament are those who belong to people who either do not know what they are looking at or those who lie.

Would not be that impressed by a Crufts win either to win at Crufts only really means that one judge liked your dog better than the others in the class and your Crufts winning dog may well be chucked out at the next Championship show they are exhibited at, and this winning dog may well not be suitable for a 'perfect' bitch anyway. What you need for a perfect bitch is a perfect dog and to be fair to you they do not exist. Speak to your breeder and ask for their advice on which stud will be suitable, get her health tested and find out if by any chance you may be wrong and she does after all have just one or two shortcomings.

I don't see how you can say your bitch has no shortcomings when you haven't had her hip-scored! To be accurate you can only say she has no shortcomings that you are aware of which is a very different thing. I do hope you reconsider breeding from her until she has been hip scored, to my mind it is totally irresponsible to breed from a big breed like a Rott. without knowing the hip status.

The only animals who do not have shortcomings in either construction, type or temperament are those who belong to people who either do not know what they are looking at or those who lie." That about sums it up Jackie. :-)
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<<<Archer
I find your message rather offensive and would appreciate it if you kept you opinions to yourself>>>

Lucy C ...this is a puplic forum....why should I keep my opinions to myself? because they don't agree with yours??
Archer

Lucy - you have obviously done as much homework about this forum as you have about breeding - did you really expect that we would all approve of your breeding a bitch that has not had necessary health checks? Most of us on here know that anyone breeding for the right reasons and from the right stock does not need a forum such as this to ask for a stud dog - they know already what lines they want to use and are right for their bitch because they have spoken to so many people in the breed and studied pedigrees.
And if you have bred a litter before you should know that "romance" does not come in to it at all.

let me tell you please---that the owner of the male who has offered you his services isnt too picky either--i do hope theyre not members of the board, im sorry but you should know your pedigree without having it sat infront of you, or at least most of the dogs/bitches in it, --- this isnt an ideal way to breed a good sound healthy rottie,

Don't forget also that Rottweilers require eye-testing for hereditary problems, and all pups should be eye-tested before sale.

Frankly, anyone who introduces themselves as having a bitch 'desperate for a bit of romance' shouldn't be breeding.  That is of course just my opinion.