hi everyone!!!!!
i have has a bitch that was mated to a dog on monday and she had a slip mating with him i would like to no how many of you have experianced this and have you had sucess with this i no one peoson who has but i wonderd if any of you have thanks in advance
fiona

My bitch did actually conceive with a slipped mating (although she lost her litter......not related to the mating though) she was expecting 8+ pups, so yes it is possible.

I know it's too late now, but couldn't you had her mated a second time just to make sure?

Good luck!

yes, sometimes a slip is sufficient but i always like to return to the dog second time to try for a tie but 80% of the slip matings ive seen have resulted in good sized litters.

My bitch didn't have a successful tie mating, even though we visited three times. However we have had a large litter (11!) and the dates indicate that she probably took on the first attempt which was pretty iffy.
Good luck.

we mated her twice on the day to this dog to see if we could get a tie but he slipped again we couldnt go back really as she lived over 4 hours away i feel better now to no that such a high amount of slip matings are proven
is it ture that chows dont tie i have herd that before but not to sure if it was correct
fiona

See fee I told you and you just wouldn't believe me would you!!!!!!!  lol  Everything will be OK and hettie will have a lovely litter of puppies....

i just hope so i am not goin to count my chickens
hetties laying next to me ast asleep on a big orange fluffy bed wish i was a dog lol
fiona

You wish...no comment... :P :P :P

i wish what and no comment about what rox????? lol you have well and truley lost me
fiona

It certainly seems quite common among Keeshonds to not get a tie, but in my own breed I would not be hapy with just a slip mating and would want to try again until a tie was achieved, as it is thought that a slip mating may indicate the time wasn't quite right, though of course this may just be an old wives tale.  A vet freind of mine told me that as long as the slip mating lasts long enough for ejaculation to occur (at least a minute or so with the dog inside the bitch and thrusting) then it can be considered a mating.  Trouble is with a coated breed it can be difficult to tell if the dog actually entered the bitch at all as he may have ben rubbing himself up her rump (so his equipment not visible) and then just turned away from the bitch when he had ejaculated outside her.  I had this happen when I tried mating my difficutl bitch to a maiden dog, she would move at the crucial moment and when I thought he had her in fact he hadn't (If you feel along the bitches tummy just behind the4 vulva you would fel the males organ).  Poor dog had this happen several times.  Next season she was the same with him, and he got to the stage of being glad to see the back of her.  Managed to get her mated eventually to our young import and got a litter. 

well the time was correct because hettie ws blood tested and had ovulated 2 days before we took her it was advised bi both vet and stud dog owner to leave her to days before going to let the eggs ripen and we no he mated her because she was mated on a table
fiona

My vet tells me to take my bitch 2 days BEFORE ovulation, so the sperm is waiting for the eggs to come down................not only that I don't entirely trust these premate tests, my girl last time conceived 7 days BEFORE the premate confirmed she was ready, this was the slipped mating.  Scans confirmed pups were about a week further on than the dates of predicted ovulation.............

Only time will time, and I hope it's good news for you!
Good luck

And mine told me to go on the day the test showed she ovulated??? Are these vets using different tests or are they as confused as I am now? I took my bitch the day she ovulated and again two days later, I thought you had to allow the eggs to ripen but the vet said no go on ovulation day. The litter is due this week (fingers crossed) although the little minx has fooled us before with a phantom this time I really think she is preggers!

And I was told to go two days after ovulation!

Same her, as from what I have read bitches acutally won't have ripe eggs until then, and they are still fertilizable for another 48 hours so 2 to 4 days after ovulation should be the optimum mating time.  Of cours male sperm can live in a bitches tract for up to a week.

Can't imgaine mating sogs of that size on a table, but then again in our breed natural matings are the norm with the humans Kee4ping a discreet distance3 only intervening when the deed is sone to prevent the bitch panicking or pulling the dog about.  Occasionally one might looslely hold the bitches colllar and keep a hand ready under the tummy chould a maiden bitch decide to sit at crucial moment, though usually after a few minutes courting experienced males can get the job doen without interference.

no one made helped him he found his own way it was because the studd dog owner has a bad back and hettie was  a maden bitch so mum help her head a bit that was all
fiona

Hi Brainless, Fiona has American Cockers, and they can be seen on tables at any dog show. My Yankee bitch was also mated on a table, so It's obviously not uncommon. What breed did you think she was talking about? I'm imagining something like a St Bernard mating on a table here. Sorry can't do smilies but I've got one on my face.

Dawn R.

Must be missing something as an earlier post mentioned chows, whether it was usual for the breed not to tie???

" f.a.brook 30.09.04 09:02 BST  .........
is it ture that chows dont tie i have herd that before but not to sure if it was correct
fiona  "

that because i had herd that chows dont tie and i wonderd if it was true or not i was just curious about them sorry for confusing you brainless
if you want to see what i have been doing today go to showing post and to well done fiona
very happy fiona

hettie seems to have gone out of season quick so i am hoping that it is a good signe what do you think
fiona