Did anyone watch this last night and do you think she has been beaten?i am very interested in hearing anyones opinion on this!

Ooh, ooh, fab - someone for girlie gossip - I'm working in an office full of blokes! :D

Yes, I'd say he's a nasty piece of work, and would imagine he does beat her.  Apart from anything else, can't imagine any woman willingly telling the press she'd broken a rib whilst 'at it' if it wasn't to divert from the truth. 

Couldn't quite see the point of the interview, couldn't see why Trevor MacDonald bothered ........... and after all the ridicule in the press, she seems to have had the daft trout pout lip thing done again???

Entertaining though!

Marina

I think it suspicious how when she said that she broke her rib then went into another room for the phone and dialled 999 then she said she put the phone down on the ambulance service because her husband told her to try and walk before she called for an ambulance yet she said that she went into the other room for the phone so she must have been able to walk.
I also don't think that it is right that the wife can decide whether to press charges or not it should be up to the police. People cant decide if the what to press charges or not if the man had committed a crime like murder so why should they decide for something like physical abuse which may put the general public at risk.

sarah xxxx

I think if you look at the stats of domestic violence the general public are not put at risk.  The violence is generally localised to family.

This area is extremely complex and, unlike other forms of violence, there are issues such as housing, finance and children at stake with a lot of families.

In any case, no one really knows what goes on in a relationship except the people concerned; everything else is just pointless speculation and an opportunity for cheap voyeurism.

In any case, no one really knows what goes on in a relationship except the people concerned; everything else is just pointless speculation and an opportunity for cheap voyeurism.

Normally, I would agree...but in doign that interview she really put it back intot he public spotlight. I only watched the first few minutes, i didn't like the way she talked about him as if he wasn't actually there - looked like a pointless PR gig to me.

I think he beats her, my ex was violent and i use to keep it quiet, you dont want people to know your husband beats you :(
I use to tell people i was very happily married,

Heidi

Thanks chloe me thinks she does protest too much as well.By agreeing to an interview like this she has put very much back in the spotlight and up for discussion.If everything was really so great why would he look soo shifty, and why would she be defending him like that?I actually feel very sorry for her, and am not being voyeuristic at all!!I know many people who have been in the same sitiation, ie battered wives and who have to live in denial for years, its tragic!Also i dont think my question is pointless just like any posts you make are obviously worth posting in your opinion!!

Watched the interview in disbelief (if you go on national tv then you can expect it to be discussed later :) ) 
Did anyone else notice how, every time she started to answer she would look at 'him' and start but then he'd take over the talking, I don't think she finished what she was saying once :(  and at one point she moved to put her hand on his arm and he didn't respond, her arm was left dangling (she seemed quite tearful after this, dabbing her eyes )   After watching them together and listening to them I'm afraid I don't feel that all is well there, I just hope she wakes up soon, he couldn't have been more shifty and controlling if he tried. 

my opinion exactly, i feel very sorry for her shes in denial!!

Hang on a minute...I didn't watch the TV programme in question but ...are you all saying that Sir Trevor McDonald, erstwhile newsreader of this country, beats Lesley Good Ad For Cosmetic Surgery Ash? ?

I am gobsmacked!

(Thought she was married to a footballer?? ...or is it Neil Morrisey? )

:D

By the sound of it she's the one who's gobsmacked! ;) But I admit I thought it was about Trevor hitting Leslie (I've never known why she spells her name the boy's way).

My Oppinion.
He will do it again.
Chow

And again and again and again till either she leaves him or he kills her

"Also i dont think my question is pointless "

Er, now where exactly in my post did I say that............?  Do remind me! :)

...everything else is just POINTLESS speculation!!!

Exactly! Absolutely correct!

Not " I think your question is pointless"!

The two statements mean entirely different things!

In any case, no one really knows what goes on in a relationship except the people concerned; everything else is just pointless speculation and an opportunity for cheap voyeurism.

Is that not suggesting that unless we are either of the parties involved a post like this is pointless speculation?

One can, of course, infer anything from anyone's post if one looks hard and long enough; something which the poster neither implied, nor actually wrote.  That is how rumours, wars and arguments start; misinterpretation and lack of verification.

That is, after all what communication is all about, not just what is said, but what is actually heard/understood.

All of us are entitled to opinions, informed or not, hence the popularity of so much written and tv dross! :)  And all of us are entitled to express them; thank God we live in a democracy and not a police state/forum :D

Didn't have to look TOO hard at your comment though, in order to get the impression that it was pointless speculation :)

ok obviously in some peoples opinions my post was pointless but having worked with battered women for years , i was posing the original question to see if other people had any strong opinions on it.
Lots of women live in denial for years, they pretend theyre happy when they are going through hell, i don't usually have any interest in media stuff but this was very close to my heart.sorry if it was seen a s boring or pointless to some people , and i hope it wont scare people of from posting if they do have any opinions about the programme!!
I read this forum all the time and often see posts i find totally pointless but i would never be rude enough to point this out to anyone!!

Excactly Candie, well said :)

Lucky you, you only worked with battered women.

I was one!

So you see it is very close to my heart too!

So easy to jump to conclusions and make assumptions isn't it without knowing the FACTS.

A perfect demonstration of why I posted my original post!

So easy to jump to conclusions and make assumptions isn't it without knowing the FACTS

What assumptions has she made?? What conclusions did Candie jump to? She simply said that she worked with battered women

Sorry, baffled here now

So easy to jump to conclusions and make assumptions isn't it without knowing the FACTS

Lucky you, you only worked with battered women

And how does Thome know that Candie only worked with battered women and wasn't involved ever herself? Sounds like an assumption to me :D

sounds like an assumption (absolutely correct) :D

In any case, no one really knows what goes on in a relationship except the people concerned; everything else is just pointless speculation and an opportunity for cheap voyeurism.

Are you trying to tell me that you are not actually saying that any speculation outside of the people involved is pointless - even though thats exactly what you wrote above? How can I be assuming anything from that - its absolutely clear! :D

I am not actually trying to tell you anything :D

Tohme you are making assumptions again!!Just because i  said i worked with battered women didnt mean i  havent experienced domestic violence!!I was hoping for a healthy intelligent debate here but as usual rudeness is being used as a weapon to try to silence me!!Not much difference than  domestic violence really! The same bullying tactics!

I fail to see where I have tried to "silence " you with my "weapon of rudeness"

Or where the "bullying" tactics are?

Does anyone think there's a link between an angry slap and a serial 'batterer' ?  What I mean is could you forgive a partner for a momentary loss of temper or would you expect it to lead to more serious long term abuse ?

I think it depends on a lot of things:

The Man
The Woman
The Marriage
Circumstances

Stephen slapped me once. many years ago ...he was more horrified than I was, never ever done it again, nor would he :)

In my own experience and work joyce, i would say sadly it usually leads to more long term abuse.Of course there will always be exceptions to this but sadly not very often.:)

Seems a shame that someone would get condemned on the basis of a slap ...

Edited to add: In your line of work Candie, I wouldn't have thought you get to see the ones who have only ever had one slip ....only the ones who have continued?

I was known to slap my ex husband one once - didn't mean I went on to be a husband beater!

Like i said i am only speaking from MY experience, i realise that everyones different but i think that once someone has slapped their partner if they stay together for any length of time after it could usually lead to more abuse.If i was even slapped once now i would consider that as abuse, given my past relationship.It depends where you draw the line really!!To some people a slaps not a big deal. to me it wasnt at first but it would be now, cos i know what might come next!!
Thanks for all your positive feedback!!
ps chloe i know your not a husband beater...lol

I think a slap can be excused sometimes . I don't think more than that can be and I definitely don't think a punch can be :)

I am not a lenient person generally but I wouldn't throw away a marriage for one slap ;)

One slap for me WAS and IS a big deal ..but there is such a thing as over reaction ;)

I think you need to be realistic about things, there is a huge difference between one slap and a wife beater. Of course, that would also make me a child abuser as I have slapped my older children when they were young. Not often, but occasionally. Oh and an animal abuser because I gave Delly a smack on her rump the other day ;)

Oh and I really wouldn't take Chloes word for the fact she isn't a husband beater ;) :p

Oh, I still beat him - its just he's not my husband now LOL

Hmm no experience of it thank goodness, but i feel one slap done with the intention to put down, bully or harm  is a very bad sign for the future of the relationship...it means that one person is happy to do anything to get their own way, whatever they have to do.

The boundaries have been broken IMHO and once broken it is easier to slip more and more into that way surely? I reckon so.

I can understand someone being frustrated and slapping out of sheer frustration and then being totally mortified, but that is not slapping with intention in mh book, (but is bad enough and what is acceptable would need to be firmly spelt out ). I would be pretty angry over that too and would still consider ending the relationship.

I feel intention is everything.

Lindsay
X

After a very violent and controlling first marriage which i stayed in for 18 years, It was very hard to gain my confidence back but i did with lots of help from my second hubby and now if he ever hit or punched me i would know it was over and leave him but my second hubby would never hit/punch me he is a man not a coward,
When i was with my ex i use to think it was my fault i got hit but now i know different because my hubby would never dream of hitting me :)

Heidi

Hmm ..I can see why you would think as you do ..but I can assure you that my husband is not a coward. He was guilty of a human emotion, anger, and he lost his temper. Once he realised the consequences he was aghast .

Which is why I say once doesn't have to mean the end of the world

Sorry Melodysk but that was not directed at you personally

:D

>He was guilty of a human emotion, anger, and he lost his temper.

Fair point, Mel. We're all human, after all, and make mistakes. Forgiveness (by you, and by himself as well) means progress can be made.

I'll get down from the pulpit now!
:)

Clear off and eat some veg Jan :p :p :p You never know, you may find the other half ....

*giggle*

might help if she made herself sick LOL