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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Unwanted advances from 1 dog to another!
- By treeseebee [gb] Date 15.09.04 17:09 UTC
Can anyone give me advice?  My 12 month old Cavalier has recently been "done" and since then the poor fella has been almost constantly pounced on by other males dogs wanting a bit of slap and tickle!  Bearing in mind he's only a small Cavalier, this morning I had to pick him up to stop a St Bernard from squashing him and the other day I pulled a pit bull terrier off of him.  My vet tells me it's up to the "responsible dog owners" to control their dogs which I agree, however I think you would also agree that not all dog owners are responsible and unfortunately so far most of the ones that I've come across see it all as a bit of a joke.  Well that's OK but it's not their dog and it's happening almost every time we go out which is usually 3 times a day.  Has anyone else had this experience with their dogs and did they manage to overcome it in some way.  Me and Oscar await your speedy replies in anticipation!!!
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 15.09.04 17:31 UTC
Unfortunately this is one of the not un-common side-effects of castration that vets often omit to warn you about. :( At the moment the lack of testosterone makes him smell like a bitch - it may improve, or he may need medication. There are other people on here whose dogs have suffered like this - I'm sure they'll be able to tell you more about how long this may last.
- By lucytia [gb] Date 15.09.04 18:30 UTC
There's a Gt Dane that walks where we do,  he was castrated 4 years ago and still has the admirations of all the intact males.  Maybe this never goes away with some dogs?
- By Brainless [gb] Date 15.09.04 18:38 UTC
Unfortunately this is not an uncommon effect of castrating a male, especially a young and socially low one, that is submissive.  The ones with plenty of confidence have the confidence to put the would be romeos off, the others will be pestered.

A very nice submissive Springer used to come to our training class.  He had been castrated as a matter of course at a young age by the ladies vet, and she went along with it thinking it was for the best.

He was terrrified of the other dogs at first, but gradually in the controlled class environement he made freinds and became more confident, so that he3 was less picked upon, but he had to be kept on a lead on walks, as he would run in fear if a dog was persistent.
- By jazzywoo Date 16.09.04 08:24 UTC
My dog (black lab) was castrated nearly two years ago and we had the same problems to begin with.  Jazz is a very playful dog but will not tolerate this kind of behaviour from any dog.  Generally speaking others dogs owners have been very good, if this is not the case then I would politely ask them to control their dog.

Michelle :)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 16.09.04 09:15 UTC
Unfortunately some other dog owners may see at is being unfair to blame them for their dog's reaction to what is, in some ways equivalent to walking an in-season bitch. :(
- By copper_girl [gb] Date 16.09.04 09:36 UTC
Sorry to hear you're having hassle.  Copper does this to other dogs (he's entire) that he's friendly with (not that many I'll admit but there are some!).  My groomer has a BT who has been castrated and when we were at the shop they were OK together (no aggression on Copper's part) but he did try to mount the other dog.  He sometimes tries it on with my mum's pup spaniel too.  I just distract him with a bit of food which usually works.  I certainly don't find it at all amusing and I think its up to me to sort it out.

CG
- By Stacey [gb] Date 16.09.04 16:59 UTC
Too bad if other owners think it's unfair - if it takes getting angry at them until they get the point, so be it.

  My speyed Cairn bitch is continually set upon by a neutered black lab every time we meet him on our walks.   His owner just laughs and says, "he even tries that on the cats".  Maybe he has a thing for cats, because Cairns do have catlike faces.  :-) Luckily, my Cairn is very patient and it's easy for me to push him off her .. but it is very annoying. 

Stacey
- By ManxPat [im] Date 16.09.04 18:29 UTC
Sorry to hear about the unwanted advances. My lab is neutered and still hehave like an entire male. He is supremely confident. However, someone I know who got a very timid male lab done has has similar problems and it has left the poor dog a nervour wreck. He was always very submissive and now this has made him worse.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 16.09.04 18:34 UTC
This seems to be a common factor that an already low ranking or submissive dog seems most prone to being seen as a bitch after castration.  For this reason I would never advise doing this to a nervous or submissive individual, and not until any other male has reached adulthood.
- By ManxPat [im] Date 16.09.04 20:41 UTC
Absolutely agree with you Brainless. Sometimes one has to remember a Vet is not necessarily a bahaviourist.
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