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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Rescue dog allergic to everything
- By weims [gb] Date 11.09.04 11:16 UTC
Hi, I have just taken in a rescue weim who is allergic to almost everything in commercial dog food.  He cant have soya, wheat, maize, white fish, lamb, rice.  He was on a venison & potato complete food but they stopped making it.

Does anyone know of any food that might suit him.  As an emergency measure I bought some chicken wings, veg, tuna, and olive oil as his coat is in bad condition and his skin is flaky.

Thanks

Lynn
- By chaliepud [gb] Date 11.09.04 11:55 UTC
He sounds like an ideal candidate for a raw diet, you can then choose exactly what to feed him, I'm sure someone will be along soon to help.........

Good luck and well done for taking on a rescue!
- By weims [gb] Date 11.09.04 13:59 UTC
Hi, and thanks for the reply but I think you slightly misunderstood.  I work with weimaraner rescue and he is up for rehoming.  He currently is in kennels and  we need something reasonably easy for the kennels to feed him on until I can find him a new home.  I will then recommend that the new home feeds a raw diet but obviously some research needs to be done as I dont know much about it.

In the meantime I am hoping that someone can come up with a complete food for his stay in kennels. Or if we feed pet mince and a mixer biscuit does he need any other supplements?

Thanks
Lynn
- By lel [gb] Date 11.09.04 14:06 UTC
What about Royal Canin Hypoallergenic ? Although it has some of these foods in they are hydrolysed so the particles are tiny and help to lessen any senitivity the dog may have. Its expensive though and needs to be prescribed by a vet

By the way is it the vet who has told you the foods he is sensitive to or the previous owner?
- By Teri Date 11.09.04 17:35 UTC
I know there is a good Duck & Potato and also Turkey & Potato diet available from major pet outlets by one of the better makes of complete food.  Sorry, can't remember off hand which one.  Also Rabbit is an excellent alternative to chicken and lamb.

Would add that dogs with adverse reactions to chicken, lamb and rice diets can also be intolerant of eggs in any form :-( so personally I wouldn't include them in eithe a raw or complete diet.

As another reply said, Prize Choice have a good selection of frozen raw meats etc which I would probably feed with good quality mixer (if you can find one that he tolerates) but I'd definitely add a supplement such as SA37 (either in powder or tablet form). 

Good luck with this dog - it must be more difficult trying to place a dog with food problems since a lot of pet owners won't want the hassle of preparing a fresh diet :o(

Teri 
- By tohme Date 11.09.04 15:46 UTC
You will be able to feed a dog any of the hypo allergenic diets on the market as all the protein is hydrolised therefore making allergic responses virtually impossible; however they are incredibly expensive.

Raw feeding is easy and whilst he is in the kennel can easily be fed chicken wings only for several weeks or longer with no long term ill effects.

I assume this dog has actually been blood tested for allergies and there is evidence demonstrate that rather than being merely anecdotal.

Prize choice do frozen packs of chicken, rabbit, beef, tripe and chicken wings so it would be a simple matter of defrosting one of these packs or part packs a day for the dog; these are easily available from Pets at Home etc. 

It is not necessary for him to eat any grains.

A couple of tins of pilchards/sardines/mackeral should be ok (avoid the ones in tomato sauce as they usually contain modified maize starch).

Eggs, raw or cooked and live yoghurt again would be easy to feed.

HTH
- By Dee K [gb] Date 11.09.04 18:28 UTC
Hi Lynn,

My ESS is allergic to commercial dog foods, but is O.K on Arden Grange dried complete food. He has this along with fresh meat as too much dried gives him the runs,
Hope you find something suitable soon!
Dee
- By mattie [gb] Date 11.09.04 21:43 UTC
wafcol fish and corn
- By weims [gb] Date 11.09.04 21:49 UTC
thanks mattie but he is allergic to most grains and fish. 

Lynn
- By weims [gb] Date 11.09.04 21:48 UTC
Allyson, Yes the dog has been blood tested and I have the vets results.  My local stockist of frozen meats has just closed down. He will have to eat chicken wings for the time being.  I got him some Tuna in oil, thinking that he couldnt have white fish, tuna would be ok and the oil would be good for his coat and skin... but his previous owner tells me that he has a reaction to tuna too.  It goes straight thru him.  Someone suggested SA37, I thought of that too but he is allergic to some of the ingredients.

He is also quite stressed and that isnt helping.

Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

Thanks
Lynn
- By Gonzo [gb] Date 12.09.04 04:31 UTC
weims,

Look at what thome posted. All that sounds reasonable to me :) Good luck with the feeding. Can he not go onto a raw diet whilst in the kennels also. Ive you make it up at home, and freezze it in the centre. Then just defrost it, and its all prepared and ready to give.

Sounds like it would save alot of hasle anyway, and its not expensive to feed :)
- By weims [gb] Date 12.09.04 09:01 UTC
HI Gonzo,  I have taken on board what Allyson (Thome) said and am going to look into the hypoallergenic diets.  To go on the raw diet whilst in kennels is not practical. They dont have a fridge to keep the food in and as they give us a reduced rate for rescue dogs I cant expect them to start buying in and preparing special food.  If the kennels were nearby I would do it but it is a 20 mile round trip and as I dont drive I can only get there when hubby has a day off. 

Allyson do you know the names of any of these hypoallergenic brands of food?  Do you know if I can get them over the net?

Thanks for everyones help.

Lynn
- By tohme Date 12.09.04 09:20 UTC
Hi Lynn [link]http://www.hills.co.uk/products/product_details.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302024125&bmUID=1094981272041&bmLocale=en_GB&PRODUCT<>prd_id=845524441760431[/link]

The z/d ultra allergen hydrolised diet by Hills is the one I am familiar with. However I think the vet actually has to prescribe this, and it costs a bomb!

HTH
- By Anna [gb] Date 12.09.04 20:35 UTC
Just bought our Bichon some James Wellbeloved Hypo-allergenic dried food because he has got a skin allergy.  It has no wheat or wheat gluten, no beef or pork, just duck, no dairy products, no soya or cheap fillers, no added artificial colours , flavours or preservatives, just hope it works!  Got it from Pets at home and it was £5.69 for a 2kg bag, but they do bigger bags. They do different flavours but I got the one for calming sensitive digestions and to soothe skin irratation.

Hope this helps
- By Anna [gb] Date 12.09.04 20:41 UTC
Sorry,

Just re-read your post and it says that he is allergic to rice and the food I have got is called Duck and Rice Kibble so it wouldn't be suitable.
They might do one without rice though. 

I think Hills Science diet do an hypo-allergenic one as well.
- By weims [gb] Date 12.09.04 21:48 UTC
Hi Anna, Thanks for the info.  Been to the James Wellbeloved site and all the foods contain rice and/or oats which he is allergic to.

I have been doing some research tho and the supadog maintenance diet doesnt have any rice, maize, oats soya, lamb,  or anything else that he is allergic to.... however it does contain fish oils and he is allergic to white fish... so I am going to try and find out which fish the oils come from!

I will let you know when I ring tomorrow.

Thanks for everyones support.

Lynn
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