The pups are all big and strong. gaining weight very well. I am sleeping in with them (or trying to). On and off all night I hear quite miserable crying. I shoot off chair and find they seem fine. They often cry like this as they are suckling. Is this usual. As I said they seem fine in all othger respects. Cant remember with other litters although in the past we have shared night rotas, but this time everyone else has been away so been on my own.
Sue

Think that a noisy pup is either hungry or cold, they are a bit old to be cold so may be Mum is not supplying enough food or her milk is not of a good enough quality. Is it a large litter may be it is those who can't get enough nursing that are complaining.

No Jackie. Its only 5 and Mum has lots of milk. They also have really fat tums . I use heated pads and got heat lamp for extra warmth so its not that. Perhaps its hereditary as Mumis a real whinger :)

Sure you are in the best place to tell if all is well, I worry if pups make a noise, always think they should be feeding or sleeping until the are about 10 days, it is not when Mum is cleaning is it?

Sometimes. The strangest thing is why they cry when they are actually sucking

Could they have sore tummies, is mum toileting them enough? Just a thought.

BFN Pam

May be they are greedy and are giving themselves colic. It is a pity you are stuck with me who is far more into males these days and not someone who is actively into litters, sorry :)

This is what I found too when pups were hot dcrying diring and after feeding.  The effort of feding is quite tiring and increases their body temperature as it would for us if we exerted ourselves.

What breed are they?  Thick or thin coated?

I and some breeder freinds have expereinced this at this age.  It could be that they are too hot.

My poor freind who posts here was tearing her hair out a few weeks back as pups were so restless.

On checking she did find that their feet and mouths were quite red and after putting cold water ijn a hot water bottle and lying them on it they soon settled.

Last September I too had this problem when the weather was Indian Summer like.  I had to bring pups downstairs earlier than normal as I couldn't cool the bedroom down, and the litter I had this year was the same during our heatwave.

That is interesting Brainless, one has been led to expect that pups of that age are able to control their body temperature, it would appear that the control is not enough when it comes to being too hot.

Actually pups canot fully regulate their body temperature until about 3 to 4 weeks when it reaches adult temperature.  Until then they can't deal too well with heat or cold.

They are shorthaired but it maybe the heat. i turn it down a bit in the day and they do seem a bit better, unless its cos I am not in there with them trying to get 40 winks. i worry that they might get too cold in the night but maybe I am overdoing it.

Yes, I am Brainless' now hairless friend.

It was during the heatwave we had three or four weeks ago.  Everything was fine for the first couple of days.  After that, chaos reigned.  My litter was crying as they got near to the end of a feed, then afterwards for ages, crying and crawling round the whelping box.  I was existing over several days on two hours sleep in twenty four, because the crying upset the bitch, and she kept trying to move the pups (usually the same one), and I had to mount guard over them.  She knew better than I did, actually, but I still remain unconvinced that the garden was the right place for them :-)  We have only had winter litters before (this is the sixth litter in the family, and the fourth I've been involved with), and my instinct was very much to keep them warm as we have always done with the previous litters.  It never occured to me that they could be too warm - I blame the lack of sleep, because I'm not normally so dim.  I had convinced myself they were dying.  Obviously what was happening was that they were already too warm, then drinking warm milk whilst snuggling up to a warm bitch.  They came downstairs rather earlier than usual at two weeks, and all has been well since then.  Mine is hardy Nordic breed - all pups have new homes, incidentally.

Assuming that the non-doggy husband (who has been completely traumatised by this his first experience of a litter) allows me another, I shan't be having it in the summer.  I shall stick with the regime I am familiar with.

Make sure they aren't constipated. they may look nice and chubby but they may have gas and she may not be pooping them correctly. start helping with a warm cottonball and see if you can stimulate them to pee and poop. sometimes it looks like the mom is doing this and she's not getting the job done. I had one that would only stimulate the pup to pee but not poop!  I thought she was doing both and the pup was very filled up. Check if they are eating  well because this can cut their appetite as well.

My first litter I had was in the summer and all the pups did was cry all the time, I ended up putting them in the basement right at the bottom of the stairs and they were all happy. It was just way to hot upstairs and mom was too hot to lay to long as well. When they were down stairs she nursed them much better and they were much happier cause it was cooler :)  When the weather cooled down they came back upstairs and they seemed very happy.

That was my thought too either to hot or constipated...Do hope things get better, good luck :)

Thanks everyone. had a better night last night  and kept room a bit cooler. Did notice this morning when weighing them that their poo was a bit gassy. Like scrambled egg which I seem to rememeber my kids was like when I was feeding them but a bit windy. Dont usually get to see it as Mum is very good at cleaning them. Also noticed that one was a little bit sore on rear end so have put some metanium on. All have hained 2/3oz again so thats good. What should 'normal' pup poo look like. (what a question :)
Sue

Toothpaste and the colour of Mustard.

Got the mustard but not the toothpaste. Its a bit bubbly like aero !!

If they are gaining so quickly and are a bit greedy it could be that theya re overeating slightly and getting windy.  Unless it has a distinclty horid smell then I would just watch and see.

Thanks Brainless. Its not particularly offensive so hopefully your right. Will keep an eye.
Sue